曼德拉效應（2）

有冇人搵到醫生證明腎臟嘅位置變咗？
星火燎原巴打上面有個回覆 話有醫生證明咗腎臟位置有變，但冇畀link，所以想問下各位搵唔搵到

純粹想聽下專業人士嘅講法。

不如講多少少我覺得怪既例子出黎先
拋磚引玉

1. 大家都知道白雪公主有一個台詞係
魔鏡魔鏡 邊個最靚
而英文版本係 mirror mirror on the wall...
宜家既版本係magic mirror on the wall...
可能大家會話 翻譯問題姐
但外國人都質疑緊

2. 有時外國電影入面一啲經典既台詞
例如沈默羔羊既hello clarice
就比人整左好多meme圖出黎
但點知其實電影入面係冇呢句野
甚至有更極端既情況係
有另一套電影 （定電視劇）都有類似情況
但嗰個演員係之後既訪問講翻句野出黎

1. 唔出奇
有時電影公司會執
好似ET咁
最早期有一幕係班差佬揸槍set好road block截班𡃁仔 之後ET架單車起飛
2000年頭嘅數碼修復版係用CGI換咗啲槍做walkie-talkie
因為啲人覺得差佬拎槍指細路唔係咁好
但班fans嘈得好勁
結果blu ray版又變返原本

2. 更加唔奇
始終呢啲meme係人自己聽完整返出嚟
自然有機會記錯

1. 從來個版本就係magic
官方一句都冇提及過mirror mirror

2. 既然一開始都冇呢句野 啲meme 訪問邊度黎？
沈默羔羊句野係講morning
同hello clarice 係有比較大既差別
同樣情況亦適用於上述好多既例子

揸住白雪公主兩個版本既台詞，當中有一個英文字用得唔一樣就話係mandela effect，真係笑左
cern都真係好唔得閒下，辛辛苦苦開發LHC改變時間線，結果原來係要幫手correct呢D鼻屎大既mistakes

效應既重點唔係大定細 有mistake 就係有
同埋冇人講過一定係cern
大膽講句 可能係自然形成？
甚至有其他大事係唔同左而我地唔知？
當然 如果我知點解我就唔會係度啦
甚至可能學巴打話齋 有未研究到既腦部記憶問題呢
我亦唔覺得呢度會討論到有結果
唔信既 咪當比一眾巴打係度FF囉

未有研究
A false memory is the psychological phenomenon wherein a person recalls something that did not happen. False memory is often considered in legal cases regarding childhood sexual abuse.


Similar false memories are sometimes shared by multiple people.[27][28] For example, a somewhat commonly reported false memory is that the name of the Berenstain Bears was once spelled Berenstein.[29][30] Another reported example is false memories of a movie starring the comedian Sinbad, called Shazaam.[27] One study examined people who were familiar with the clock at Bologna Centrale railway station, which had been damaged in the Bologna massacre of 1980. In the study, 92% falsely remembered that the clock had remained stopped since the bombing; in fact, the clock was repaired shortly after the attack but was again stopped 16 years later as a symbolic commemoration.[28]


In 2015 this phenomenon of collective false memory was dubbed the "Mandela Effect" by self-described "paranormal consultant" Fiona Broome, in reference to a false memory she reports,

點解有啲未聽過相關效應既人
都會傾向同一個方向答錯既野？

咁又錯啦，我識人好多都有儲開舊錶，有啲就帶金勞果啲，個個都會答我IV。除止之外，IIII係錯誤寫法，羅馬一直都係用IV，如果你係而家上網搵既話，就一定會話IIII一直都用緊同咁寫好正常，因為時間已經自我修復左

咁點解「自我修復」無係你朋友既腦袋出現呀

因為佢唔係專業人士，如果係本身啲設計師就會話一直都用緊IIII，但我朋友只係使用者，所以佢地係出現時間自我修復

每個時代都會演變出唔同寫法架
Ancient rome有一套
Middle age文藝復興又自己改左少少

上面岩岩解釋完

時間修復完但係又有d人修復唔到
咁仲算唔算「修復完」
因為仲有一堆人仲未修復
係到等緊修復

唔係人要修復，專業人士係一出現轉變時，佢地記憶都會改變，因為佢地要使相關既工佢，例如設計隻錶既設計師，佢一直都會覺得用IIII。又例如醫生，佢一直都會話腎系胸骨入面，但事實係以前系腰，胸骨下面並唔係裡面，而且比以前大左1-2倍，又例如人骨變206，佢地都會話一直都係，因為時間自我修復，如果無時間自我修復，個醫生開開下刀先發現人體唔係佢學既咁，會點，所以一定係一出現，記憶就改變

屌那星講咗十鳩幾廿萬次
腎個位係T12 -L3
Rib 12喺後面包住
點樣喺胸骨入面呀？

諗下啦
如果個腎去到腰位的話
我地啲腸放去邊呀？
放落個屎忽度？
成班友睇完張骨骼圖再睇消化系統圖
睇完又唔撚將兩張圖overlay嚟睇

更何況
書係唔係冇可能有錯先？
老師講係100%啱？

揸住白雪公主兩個版本既台詞，當中有一個英文字用得唔一樣就話係mandela effect，真係笑左
cern都真係好唔得閒下，辛辛苦苦開發LHC改變時間線，結果原來係要幫手correct呢D鼻屎大既mistakes

效應既重點唔係大定細 有mistake 就係有
同埋冇人講過一定係cern
大膽講句 可能係自然形成？
甚至有其他大事係唔同左而我地唔知？
當然 如果我知點解我就唔會係度啦
甚至可能學巴打話齋 有未研究到既腦部記憶問題呢
我亦唔覺得呢度會討論到有結果
唔信既 咪當比一眾巴打係度FF囉

其實如果真係提到mandela effect既話，我覺得最有可能解釋到佢出現既成因，係因為現代科技改變左過去，導致改變前同改變後既世界有出入；而即使我地存在喺改變後既世界都好，我地仍然對之前既世界有模糊既記憶同認知，先至會導致mandela effect (正如steins; gate 呢套動畫設定一樣)

就用呢個effect 既命名來源黎舉個具體d既例子，假設mandela 其實早就已經喺80年代已經死左，但依家美國開發time machine 出黎，改變過去而避免左mandela 係喺80年代死亡；雖然呢一個世界入面mandela 係2013年死亡，但由於我地腦海入面仍留有上一個世界嘅既視感，所以就會造成mandela effect

我覺得呢個算係最有力、最難駁倒既講法黎，其他你話自然改變根本無可能，係直頭違反因果律，除非呢個世界有神，否則係無可能無端端改變過去/現實。不過個假說前提當然係time travel 要可行，我地能夠以現在黎干涉過去先可以成立 你地所提既羅馬數字IIII，白雪公主台詞，根本就一定唔會係mandela effect之下既產物，因為呢一個假說之下係一定唔會有任何證據留底，唯一既證明只係我地腦海入面既模糊記憶

再補一補充，係time machine 出現既可能性同人體記憶出錯，兩個可能性之間，我覺得記憶出錯可能性絕對比前者大好多

揸住白雪公主兩個版本既台詞，當中有一個英文字用得唔一樣就話係mandela effect，真係笑左
cern都真係好唔得閒下，辛辛苦苦開發LHC改變時間線，結果原來係要幫手correct呢D鼻屎大既mistakes

效應既重點唔係大定細 有mistake 就係有
同埋冇人講過一定係cern
大膽講句 可能係自然形成？
甚至有其他大事係唔同左而我地唔知？
當然 如果我知點解我就唔會係度啦
甚至可能學巴打話齋 有未研究到既腦部記憶問題呢
我亦唔覺得呢度會討論到有結果
唔信既 咪當比一眾巴打係度FF囉

未有研究
A false memory is the psychological phenomenon wherein a person recalls something that did not happen. False memory is often considered in legal cases regarding childhood sexual abuse.


Similar false memories are sometimes shared by multiple people.[27][28] For example, a somewhat commonly reported false memory is that the name of the Berenstain Bears was once spelled Berenstein.[29][30] Another reported example is false memories of a movie starring the comedian Sinbad, called Shazaam.[27] One study examined people who were familiar with the clock at Bologna Centrale railway station, which had been damaged in the Bologna massacre of 1980. In the study, 92% falsely remembered that the clock had remained stopped since the bombing; in fact, the clock was repaired shortly after the attack but was again stopped 16 years later as a symbolic commemoration.[28]


In 2015 this phenomenon of collective false memory was dubbed the "Mandela Effect" by self-described "paranormal consultant" Fiona Broome, in reference to a false memory she reports,

點解有啲未聽過相關效應既人
都會傾向同一個方向答錯既野？

Suggestion is the psychological process by which one person guides the thoughts, feelings, or behavior of another person.


Scientific hypnotism
Consistent with the views of Pierre Janet—who noted (1920, pp.284-285) that the critical feature is not the making of a ‘suggestion’, but, instead, is the taking of the ‘suggestion’—Weitzenhoffer (2000, passim), argued that scientific hypnotism centres on the delivery of "suggestions" to hypnotized subjects; and, according to Yeates (2016b, p.35), these suggestions are delivered with the intention of eliciting:

(1) the further stimulation of partially active mental states and/or physiological processes;
(2) the awakening of dormant mental states and/or physiological processes;
(3) the activation of latent mental states and/or physiological processes;
(4) alterations in existing perceptions, thoughts, feelings, and/or behaviours; and/or
(5) entirely new perceptions, thoughts, feelings, and/or behaviours.

揸住白雪公主兩個版本既台詞，當中有一個英文字用得唔一樣就話係mandela effect，真係笑左
cern都真係好唔得閒下，辛辛苦苦開發LHC改變時間線，結果原來係要幫手correct呢D鼻屎大既mistakes

效應既重點唔係大定細 有mistake 就係有
同埋冇人講過一定係cern
大膽講句 可能係自然形成？
甚至有其他大事係唔同左而我地唔知？
當然 如果我知點解我就唔會係度啦
甚至可能學巴打話齋 有未研究到既腦部記憶問題呢
我亦唔覺得呢度會討論到有結果
唔信既 咪當比一眾巴打係度FF囉

其實如果真係提到mandela effect既話，我覺得最有可能解釋到佢出現既成因，係因為現代科技改變左過去，導致改變前同改變後既世界有出入；而即使我地存在喺改變後既世界都好，我地仍然對之前既世界有模糊既記憶同認知，先至會導致mandela effect (正如steins; gate 呢套動畫設定一樣)

就用呢個effect 既命名來源黎舉個具體d既例子，假設mandela 其實早就已經喺80年代已經死左，但依家美國開發time machine 出黎，改變過去而避免左mandela 係喺80年代死亡；雖然呢一個世界入面mandela 係2013年死亡，但由於我地腦海入面仍留有上一個世界嘅既視感，所以就會造成mandela effect

我覺得呢個算係最有力、最難駁倒既講法黎，其他你話自然改變根本無可能，係直頭違反因果律，除非呢個世界有神，否則係無可能無端端改變過去/現實。不過個假說前提當然係time travel 要可行，我地能夠以現在黎干涉過去先可以成立 你地所提既羅馬數字IIII，白雪公主台詞，根本就一定唔會係mandela effect之下既產物，因為呢一個假說之下係一定唔會有任何證據留底，唯一既證明只係我地腦海入面既模糊記憶

都唔得
由於我地係同一條時間線上面
前面有野變咗（曼德啦冇死到）
後面嘅我地根本唔會有所謂嘅上一個世界嘅記憶
因為由嗰一刻起全世界就去咗新方向
所謂嘅原本世界只係因為我地用上帝視角先講得出
但對於真實時間線上面嘅我地嚟講
根本唔會知「本來」嘅世界係點
因為根本冇經歷過

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias?wprov=sfsi1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias?wprov=sfsi1

Confirmation bias, also called confirmatory bias or myside bias,[Note 1] is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses.[1] It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. Biased search, interpretation and memory have been invoked to explain attitude polarization (when a disagreement becomes more extreme even though the different parties are exposed to the same evidence), belief perseverance (when beliefs persist after the evidence for them is shown to be false), the irrational primacy effect (a greater reliance on information encountered early in a series) and illusory correlation (when people falsely perceive an association between two events or situations).

大家可以睇下維基link入面嘅呢一部份： Persistence of discredited beliefs

揸住白雪公主兩個版本既台詞，當中有一個英文字用得唔一樣就話係mandela effect，真係笑左
cern都真係好唔得閒下，辛辛苦苦開發LHC改變時間線，結果原來係要幫手correct呢D鼻屎大既mistakes

效應既重點唔係大定細 有mistake 就係有
同埋冇人講過一定係cern
大膽講句 可能係自然形成？
甚至有其他大事係唔同左而我地唔知？
當然 如果我知點解我就唔會係度啦
甚至可能學巴打話齋 有未研究到既腦部記憶問題呢
我亦唔覺得呢度會討論到有結果
唔信既 咪當比一眾巴打係度FF囉

其實如果真係提到mandela effect既話，我覺得最有可能解釋到佢出現既成因，係因為現代科技改變左過去，導致改變前同改變後既世界有出入；而即使我地存在喺改變後既世界都好，我地仍然對之前既世界有模糊既記憶同認知，先至會導致mandela effect (正如steins; gate 呢套動畫設定一樣)

就用呢個effect 既命名來源黎舉個具體d既例子，假設mandela 其實早就已經喺80年代已經死左，但依家美國開發time machine 出黎，改變過去而避免左mandela 係喺80年代死亡；雖然呢一個世界入面mandela 係2013年死亡，但由於我地腦海入面仍留有上一個世界嘅既視感，所以就會造成mandela effect

我覺得呢個算係最有力、最難駁倒既講法黎，其他你話自然改變根本無可能，係直頭違反因果律，除非呢個世界有神，否則係無可能無端端改變過去/現實。不過個假說前提當然係time travel 要可行，我地能夠以現在黎干涉過去先可以成立 你地所提既羅馬數字IIII，白雪公主台詞，根本就一定唔會係mandela effect之下既產物，因為呢一個假說之下係一定唔會有任何證據留底，唯一既證明只係我地腦海入面既模糊記憶

都唔得
由於我地係同一條時間線上面
前面有野變咗（曼德啦冇死到）
後面嘅我地根本唔會有所謂嘅上一個世界嘅記憶
因為由嗰一刻起全世界就去咗新方向
所謂嘅原本世界只係因為我地用上帝視角先講得出
但對於真實時間線上面嘅我地嚟講
根本唔會知「本來」嘅世界係點
因為根本冇經歷過

咁姐係佢由坐時光機個刻已經變左新世界既神
唔知佢仲會唔會講粗口呢

不如講多少少我覺得怪既例子出黎先
拋磚引玉

1. 大家都知道白雪公主有一個台詞係
魔鏡魔鏡 邊個最靚
而英文版本係 mirror mirror on the wall...
宜家既版本係magic mirror on the wall...
可能大家會話 翻譯問題姐
但外國人都質疑緊

2. 有時外國電影入面一啲經典既台詞
例如沈默羔羊既hello clarice
就比人整左好多meme圖出黎
但點知其實電影入面係冇呢句野
甚至有更極端既情況係
有另一套電影 （定電視劇）都有類似情況
但嗰個演員係之後既訪問講翻句野出黎

如果係mirror mirror點樣釋到做魔鏡

如果係magic mirror點解要重複兩次

有冇諗過magic mirror先係正宗

有興趣既睇完條片你再試下反駁

https://youtu.be/gaiVh8jtZZA

不如講多少少我覺得怪既例子出黎先
拋磚引玉

1. 大家都知道白雪公主有一個台詞係
魔鏡魔鏡 邊個最靚
而英文版本係 mirror mirror on the wall...
宜家既版本係magic mirror on the wall...
可能大家會話 翻譯問題姐
但外國人都質疑緊

2. 有時外國電影入面一啲經典既台詞
例如沈默羔羊既hello clarice
就比人整左好多meme圖出黎
但點知其實電影入面係冇呢句野
甚至有更極端既情況係
有另一套電影 （定電視劇）都有類似情況
但嗰個演員係之後既訪問講翻句野出黎

如果係mirror mirror點樣釋到做魔鏡

如果係magic mirror點解要重複兩次

有冇諗過magic mirror先係正宗

有興趣既睇完條片你再試下反駁

https://youtu.be/gaiVh8jtZZA

睇完洗唔洗買返兩支雙氧水飲下架

有興趣既睇完條片你再試下反駁

https://youtu.be/gaiVh8jtZZA

睇完洗唔洗買返兩支雙氧水飲下架[/quote]
你飲唔飲我唔介意
但入面所有既歷史證據包括圖片同廣告都係人為失誤 ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias?wprov=sfsi1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias?wprov=sfsi1

Confirmation bias, also called confirmatory bias or myside bias,[Note 1] is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses.[1] It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. Biased search, interpretation and memory have been invoked to explain attitude polarization (when a disagreement becomes more extreme even though the different parties are exposed to the same evidence), belief perseverance (when beliefs persist after the evidence for them is shown to be false), the irrational primacy effect (a greater reliance on information encountered early in a series) and illusory correlation (when people falsely perceive an association between two events or situations).

大家可以睇下維基link入面嘅呢一部份： Persistence of discredited beliefs

同意係可以用心理學解釋到

Misinformation effect+ social psychology

If you only knew the power of The Dark Side! Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.
He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
下一句接
No, I am your father.
定係
Luke, I am your father.
會比較合適呢

蠢人效應都開到2

有興趣既睇完條片你再試下反駁

https://youtu.be/gaiVh8jtZZA

睇完洗唔洗買返兩支雙氧水飲下架

你飲唔飲我唔介意
但入面所有既歷史證據包括圖片同廣告都係人為失誤 ?[/quote]


Mandela effect

事實證明同連登小學雞認真討論係無好結果
有哂證據叫你認真睇下都可以唔理玩膠
講條鐵咩

事實證明同連登小學雞認真討論係無好結果
有哂證據叫你認真睇下都可以唔理玩膠
講條鐵咩

垃圾報紙編輯冇對double check咪會咁囉

事實證明同連登小學雞認真討論係無好結果
有哂證據叫你認真睇下都可以唔理玩膠
講條鐵咩

垃圾報紙編輯冇對double check咪會咁囉

無錯
所有人都係弱智既，得你最叻

小學雞真心無敵

究竟坐時光機改變歷史既機會大d定係班人冇去double check就印出黎既機會大d呢

不如講多少少我覺得怪既例子出黎先
拋磚引玉

1. 大家都知道白雪公主有一個台詞係
魔鏡魔鏡 邊個最靚
而英文版本係 mirror mirror on the wall...
宜家既版本係magic mirror on the wall...
可能大家會話 翻譯問題姐
但外國人都質疑緊

2. 有時外國電影入面一啲經典既台詞
例如沈默羔羊既hello clarice
就比人整左好多meme圖出黎
但點知其實電影入面係冇呢句野
甚至有更極端既情況係
有另一套電影 （定電視劇）都有類似情況
但嗰個演員係之後既訪問講翻句野出黎

如果係mirror mirror點樣釋到做魔鏡

如果係magic mirror點解要重複兩次

有冇諗過magic mirror先係正宗

有興趣既睇完條片你再試下反駁

https://youtu.be/gaiVh8jtZZA

想問一問小狗巴打，你有冇關於當時啲報紙多數用magic mirror定係用mirror mirror嘅資料？
你條片嘅證據好似全部都只係提出有報紙用mirror mirror，但係冇講到當時報紙用magic mirror同mirror mirror嘅比例係幾多。 如果淨係提出支持你論點嘅證據 但係忽略咗 counterargument嘅話 係唔夠說服力㗎

點解要花咁大心機去改咁細個錯誤？

事實證明同連登小學雞認真討論係無好結果
有哂證據叫你認真睇下都可以唔理玩膠
講條鐵咩

咩證據 自己追post睇下個咩月光下的孩子
sex in the city開始一個個例子比人駁倒
駁完就去搵新既 細微細眼既所謂證據

先入為主以曼德拉效應已經存在為基礎
然後先搵證據自圓其說
同搵本聖經證明神係存在有咩分別

有人挑戰你 提出反駁 佢就繼續幻想
將個effect進化到永遠唔會查到
因為己經被修改左
咁無記錯既人係咩呢 佢就話平行宇宙

拎埋一堆都未證實有既科學概念黎支持一個由個作家鳩up既effect 然後仲要人無休止逐個解到你死心為止

質素係點 高下立見

事實證明同連登小學雞認真討論係無好結果
有哂證據叫你認真睇下都可以唔理玩膠
講條鐵咩

垃圾報紙編輯冇對double check咪會咁囉

無錯
所有人都係弱智既，得你最叻

小學雞真心無敵

唔係全有人既係d垃圾編輯姐
不過我信有人坐時光機架
但係坐時光機返黎有咁多有意義既野唔做竟然走去改字撚鳩d人
Is just interesting to think about