[耳機撚]召集大耳牛,台式耳機系統用家(6)

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2019-05-12 15:27:12
隔離耳機po剩係得隨身玩家,hifi po 又主要都係玩speaker , 乜香港地無人玩over-ear, on-ear 耳機咩

吐槽:其實隔離post唔係淨係得隨身玩家,不過隨身玩法洗版太快,好難追到headphone 啲comment
呢度會集中headphone 同埋台式系統相關(包括DAC, AMP)

Post 1:https://lihkg.com/thread/836172/page/1
Post 2:https://lihkg.com/thread/912513/page/1
Post 3: https://lihkg.com/thread/930386/page/1
Post 4: https://lihkg.com/thread/1046873/page/1
Post 5:https://lihkg.com/thread/1100817/page/1

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Glossary
Massdrop (而家改名叫 Drop)
Drop 係一個外國團購網,上面有唔同分類產品,包括服裝、電器、科技產品、Gaiming產品等等。同呢個post最有關就係audiophile分類
URL: https://drop.com/audiophile/drops
IEM, headphone, dac, amp, ear pad/ ear tip都有

平至幾十到過萬港紙產品都有,每個產品都可以留言討論同review;購物區以外亦有forum比用家交流。
(當然,review同討論就好個人,只供參考)

Drop 買野唔ship 香港的話可以用轉運,如buyandship

Drop 運作方式係同廠方合作推團購,有時會用massdrop (or Drop) 冠名同廠方推出Drop 限定特別版產品。好似HD 6XX (即係HD650,senn記表面上話停產,不過6xx不斷賣緊)

FAQ
headphone推介(歡迎提供推介)
歡迎留言問下每隻個聲係點
為免偏見, 以下推介以英數字排序


Under 1k:
。Alessandro M1 (open back)
。CD900ST (日本錄音室專用,只限日本販賣) (closed back)
。DT770Pro (open back)
。HD58X (open back) (massdrop)
。K240S (open back)
。K701 (open back)
。MDR 7506 (closed back)
。SR60 (open back)
。SR80 (open back)
。srh440 (closed back)

1-2k:
。ATH-M50x (closed back)
。DT990 Premium Limited-Edition Black (open back) (massdrop)
。HD 6XX (即係HD650) (open back) (massdrop)
。K7XX (K712改pad, 仲有一個Red Edition, 只係改色) (open back) (massdrop)

2-5k
。AH-D5200 (closed back)
。Amiron Home (open back)
。ESP/95X Electrostatic System (靜電headphone連專用amp, 原廠重製當年嘅ESP/950, 不過少咗電池盒同皮袋, 同埋換咗個pad) (open back) (massdrop)

。HD700 (open back)
。Massdrop x Fostex TR-X00 Mahogany Headphones/ Massdrop x Fostex TR-X00 Ebony Headphones/ Massdrop x Fostex TR-X00 Purpleheart Headphones (closed back) (massdrop)


5k-10k
。AH-D7200 (closed back)
。SR-L500 + SRM-353x (open back)

10k以上
work in progress
去到呢個價位,相信大家各自都有方向
講得都係每個牌子最貴個d
例子: ADX5000, D8000, Empyrean, HD800s, SR 009s, HE-1

平板推介(歡迎提供推介)
。HE4XX (open back) (massdrop)
。th-t60rp (semi-open back)
。th-500rp (open back)
。PM-1 (open back)
。PM-3 (open back)

on-ear推介(歡迎提供推介)
。Momentum on ear 2 (closed back)
。T51P (closed back)


AMP/ DAC + AMP推介(歡迎提供推介)
Under 2k:
。Magni (純AMP)

2-4k:
。dac1101 (Combo)
。aune s6

4-10k
。ADI-2 DAC (Combo)

10k以上
work in progress[/quote]
2019-05-12 15:28:39
Last comment:
想問下點睇creative sound blaster x7
想買個比電腦聽歌用
有冇其他推薦?
Budget 5/4000內到
好多奇難雜症好易壞
2019-05-12 15:30:08
推一推先
用左TuneBrowser一晚,真係好正
同foobar比較,就好似百3蚊買部新player咁大分別
呢百三蚊比得好值同好開心,仲開心過自己做線個時

講聲,低頻下潛都、高頻延申、分析力、細節都好過foobar,foobar對比之下濛聲
睇黎我要重新審視下HD-DAC1個headphone out係唔係真係濛聲,定係foobar (or both)
令我最開心係個中頻,好立體同實
tone balance仍然keep到舒服

推薦各位巴打down 個free version 試下,可以免費playback 500次
2019-05-12 15:37:26
有無咁大分別
之前都試過咩bughead player 果類聲稱提升音質嘅player唔覺特別
但係聽你咁講tunebrowser真係正到難以置信
130係年費定永久?
2019-05-12 15:44:52
lm
2019-05-12 15:45:55
Thx,上個post2位巴打
個creative x7會重生考慮下買唔買
另外巴打你推薦果2部
可能考慮 klipsh 因為比較細隻d,希望出面搵到有得試
2019-05-12 15:57:17
ok
我同意分析力同細節好過jriver19
但係佢個免費版話淨係manage到500個music tune即係點
我queue過咗呢個數都無事喎
係咪playlist限500
2019-05-12 15:57:54
無嘢啦原來你解釋咗
自膠
2019-05-12 15:58:47
唔係喎, 佢咁講即係點
There is no other difference between editions like functional restriction or period restriction. If you want to have a native DSD or Hi-Res Player simply, you can use the TuneBrowser as a free software continuously. You can use Free Edition by only download and install.
2019-05-12 16:02:51
130係永久
講漏左,個分離度都好過foobar
down個free version 試下就知
唔洗錢,唔啱刪

佢 default d setting都唔錯,主要改下playback device, Decoding, RAM decode, Playback setting details, MMCSS同ASIO setting就得
2019-05-12 16:09:09
我肯定睇錯,唔係免費playback 500次
manage up to 500 tune唔係免費playback 500次
下面仲有一句
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=zh-TW&sl=ja&tl=zh-TW&u=https%3A%2F%2Ftunebrowser.tikisoft.net%2F
google translate:
從1.4.0開始,前30天以及完整版可以不受限制地使用。即使在30天之後,到目前為止註冊的歌曲仍將繼續可用。
應該係頭30日冇限500 tune

BTW,巴打覺得同jriver 19個聲有咩唔同?
2019-05-12 16:11:37
分析力同細節多咗
smooth啲
2019-05-12 16:12:01
其實foobar都有,不過無咁易set
tunebrowser 係唔錯,幾好有,又內置SOX,佢個ASIO寫得仲好過foobar 個plugin (foobar 個ASIO Plugin十年唔update)
不過tunebrowser 無得set dither,所以我無用了
2019-05-12 16:16:48
production 要用dither?
2019-05-12 17:00:46
如果有行DSP,其本上都要dither架啦
例如你用foobar 或tunebrowser play一個44/16 或 96/24 file,如果你software 個volume control 有用過 (即非0db),佢個DSP process 會由16bit或24bit fixed point 轉上去32bit floating point,但output 去DAC或interface時唔 dither to 24bit或16bit的話,咁就會有error囉,不過唔一定聽得出

就算production好多人mon時其實都無dither,但數學上係要囉,聽唔聽得出就要有高高手做research了
2019-05-12 17:13:31
學到野
仲以為foobar個volume control會用source sampling rate去處理PCM
2019-05-12 17:15:00
其實foobar都有,不過無咁易set
tunebrowser 係唔錯,幾好有,又內置SOX,佢個ASIO寫得仲好過foobar 個plugin (foobar 個ASIO Plugin十年唔update)
不過tunebrowser 無得set dither,所以我無用了
production 要用dither?
如果有行DSP,其本上都要dither架啦
例如你用foobar 或tunebrowser play一個44/16 或 96/24 file,如果你software 個volume control 有用過 (即非0db),佢個DSP process 會由16bit或24bit fixed point 轉上去32bit floating point,但output 去DAC或interface時唔 dither to 24bit或16bit的話,咁就會有error囉,不過唔一定聽得出

就算production好多人mon時其實都無dither,但數學上係要囉,聽唔聽得出就要有高高手做research了
學到野
仲以為foobar個volume control會用source sampling rate 同 bit depth去處理PCM
2019-05-12 17:16:56
klipsh 熊仔有得試
熊仔仲有其他dac amp試,慢慢玩
2019-05-12 17:23:17
其他野都會轉做32bit架,如replaygain,SOX resample 等等,我自己行virtual cable轉入DAW ,用個叫Bitter的plugin試出黎的

由於我平時慣左set死去96/24,或48/24,如果唔係用DAW 做緊野,要聽其他野就會跳rate。同埋pro機如果有兩組clock,跳黎跳去其實好煩,仲要個relay會有聲嘛

所以我都係用replaygain set -1db,俾1db headroom個SOX 做resample,然後再dither to 24bit。
2019-05-12 17:25:46
2019-05-12 18:56:15
發現好多人用ifi idsd Micro BL推HD800
好懷疑推得好唔好
2019-05-12 18:56:42
如果我咩player都disable volume嘅話, 係咪就唔使理有無dithering
2019-05-12 19:01:58
如果你無upsample無用volume,又用左WASAPI或ASIO控制DAC 跳sample rate的話,咁就唔駛dither
2019-05-12 19:30:40
2019-05-12 19:51:36
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