[D221-] 抗俄衛國 144: Slava Ukraini 烏軍成功光復Lyman 繼續光復盧甘斯克州的時代革命

條友講嘢係有問題，完全同意另一個巴打講佢成日啲點題一忽忽特登引導人

陸路仲有經烏同白俄
當然咁既形勢實際就剩白俄

北溪1，2號各2條
炸左3條 仲有1條

你第三段正正就係內文提到嘅相反 嗰啲輕型裝備正正就係換緊新，所以orxy 先話suprising decision

打埋入莫斯科啦

The decision not to supply any of these vehicle types is therefore highly surprising

Considering the urgency with which the Ukrainian Army needed artillery systems like the M109A4BE, the Belgian government's lack of any urgency to seal a deal because it didn't want to pay ten times the price out of principle (a conundrum entirely of their own making) can only be described as utterly shameful.

cam only be described as utterly shameful 係作者嘅意見

人地會問, 舊嗰啲點解唔留返先, 等到重型都就位先替換舊式輕裝.
重型唔夠, 咪KEEP多啲輕裝囉, 你轉下手就俾晒啲舊輕裝出去?
你覺得咁係唔會俾人屌? 你係咪唔識咩叫政治炸彈?
只要有少少常識, 就明發生咩事. 人地話surprise你就真係surprise?
外判左個大腦俾人?

仲有, 我問緊你, 點解#157淨係識話人地俾得少,
刻意唔提人地本身武備鬆馳? 你未答我

有公約限制非領海國軍艦噸位出入
好似3，4萬噸左右
但經此一役之後 黑海艦隊根本已經係廢咗
冇埋莫斯科號做火力協調 剩低個啲根本炮艇嚟

唯一有用就係幾架基洛級

放幾架小盾艦入去 搭下導彈艇 反潛機 已經可以秒殺黑海艦隊

呢句的確係佢講，但比利時陸軍得果一萬人，佢一開頭亦有講
Though severely lacking in AFVs and heavy armament, the Belgian Land Component does field some 430 Iveco LMV infantry mobility vehicles (IMVs) and 218 Dingo 2 MRAPs.
開戰後唔俾烏用嚟填自己唔夠其他軍備嘅數，以防萬一都好合理
再講佢地啲dingo 有50幾部係command post嚟，用咗先20年，隨時下年唔退都唔出奇

屌嘅大部分都係budget本身引伸
你齋quote一句無意思

作者係shameful比利時軍備搞唔掂係自取其辱,
但你嗰句"相比荷蘭，比利時軍援接近零"係諷刺緊比利時無俾武器.

完全兩個唔同語句唔同意境
唔好諗住可以混為一潭.
作者同你講既野完全唔同!

orxy 咪解釋咗比利時缺乏重裝甲都可以做其他野做但無做到，再講唔出裝都可以好似丹麥咁夾錢同Slovakia 買zuzana 2

至於你第一段話係你嘅意見，我只係引述作者意見。不過你既然問起，法國荷蘭丹麥波蘭都係現役都未換晒新裝就直接比新裝烏克蘭，但比利時連舊嘅dingo一架唔肯比，唔係一個合理理由，真係比唔出都應該夾錢啦

Considering the urgency with which the Ukrainian Army needed artillery systems like the M109A4BE, the Belgian government's lack of any urgency to seal a deal because it didn't want to pay ten times the price out of principle

上半句唔睇？

佢想帶風向姐

要quote 就quote人第一段

which in March 2022 had to come to the painful conclusion that it had no heavy weaponry to send from its own stocks. This staggering feat is the result of years of chronic underfunding that had eroded the Belgian Army to the point it could not even pay to operate man-portable air-defense systems (MANPADS) any longer, leaving an entire army without any form of ground-based air defences. Although Belgium has since announced additional investments into its military, it will take years for these investments to actually have effect.

比利時跟本手上冇貨可送，而篇文既中心思想就係想講點解比利時咁7冇重武器送。

你quote 嘅野係though 開頭
"雖然比利時唔夠裝甲車同重裝備，但比利時有438 架iveco 同218架dingo 2"

跟著就係
The Iveco LMVs in Belgian service will be replaced by the Oshkosh JTLV from 2023 onwards while the Dingo 2s will similarly be replaced in the coming years. The decision not to supply any of these vehicle types is therefore highly surprising, and would have at least contributed to reinforcing public opinion that Belgium is actively supporting Ukraine's plight.

iveco 同dingo 未來幾年會換新，比利時唔提供嗰啲戰車嘅決定令人驚訝，如果提供咗至少會令人覺得比利時有主動幫烏克蘭

軍費少 -> 少heavy artilleries 少manpad 少AFVs -> 因烏俄開戰用其他嘢補數用嚟駁oryx 個point一樣合理，oryx覺得佢有新車而好快好似以前咁當廢鐵賣
但亦都可以話因開戰後有問題有變想繼續keep又得，再講啲新車仲係未到，打完先賣，未打完唔賣又得，唔係得一個推論

條友擺明有agenda，淨係覆一個point
同埋果個point的確係可以屌，但篇文個核心都係學你話齋係belgium 為何無嘢可送

必然嘅事
核武係俾堆大國拎嚟擺頂住個雞頭
唔係真係俾你打仗用
先唔講民主國家，依堆authoritarians一襟掣，歐美唔圍屌到佢解體，成個國際體系崩潰

總算越辯越明，佢再吹都無人信

但篇文講完重裝之後就講輕裝，如果重裝係無貨嘅話（但作者有批評比利時唔願意回購m109), 輕裝就係比利時無心比

駁oryx 嘅論點同有無曲解佢嘅論點係兩件事

就係以前貪落， 後勤野非戰爭時期，成班友幾個夾埋就得可出售或根本無買，到要用時點揾到

我驚中國未反應得切
俄狗已經俾美國打到收皮
空軍炸完 派M1a2俾烏軍清場
兵都唔使自己出

在一次一大隊B2可唔可以？

記唔記得抗日戰爭點打