『薪火post』BNO 續期資訊(9) 先睇DOC後問問題

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2017-07-16 14:58:00

左舊右新


疑?

我留意到你舊個本其實已經開始就錯

你舊個本都係印GBR,只係國籍欄位寫了British National Overseas

我估計 HMPO 見到 GBR 同 BNO,查過紀錄冇其他證據顯示你究竟係BC定BNO,為了避免引起你對佢發起訴訟,所以照比BC你。因為根據我之前詢問英國國籍律師,出錯護照比持照人,並且在持照人確信為真嘅情況下使用超過一段合理時間,咁本護照記載嘅資料就可以成為既定事實。

所以你本護照並唔係冇原因。此外,BC係可以同時持有BNO身分。但句說話唔係你本護照咁。

BC係明文不可同時持有BNO

唔可以持有兩本護照,但BC同BNO國籍係可以同時持有

之前有巴打試過同時拎兩本啦
2017-07-16 15:50:38

左舊右新


疑?

我留意到你舊個本其實已經開始就錯

你舊個本都係印GBR,只係國籍欄位寫了British National Overseas

我估計 HMPO 見到 GBR 同 BNO,查過紀錄冇其他證據顯示你究竟係BC定BNO,為了避免引起你對佢發起訴訟,所以照比BC你。因為根據我之前詢問英國國籍律師,出錯護照比持照人,並且在持照人確信為真嘅情況下使用超過一段合理時間,咁本護照記載嘅資料就可以成為既定事實。

所以你本護照並唔係冇原因。此外,BC係可以同時持有BNO身分。但句說話唔係你本護照咁。

BC係明文不可同時持有BNO

唔可以持有兩本護照,但BC同BNO國籍係可以同時持有

之前有巴打試過同時拎兩本啦

下邊2個CODE都係GBR??
2017-07-16 16:00:04
BC國籍同BNO國籍可共同持有呢點唔應該有任何空間討論

出前一丁個例子雖然同我以往嘅認知唔同,我其實有懷疑過個職員會唔會搞錯咗BNO同BOTC嘅處理方法,的確我過往嘅認知係BNO同BC護照理應不可同時持有,但係HMPO職員當時處理時直情係手寫多張紙話唔會註銷佢本護照。由於案例太少,無法判斷係admin error定係改咗做法。

當然想搞清楚嘅,我諗應可以以FOI黎問HMPO,
2017-07-16 16:02:47

左舊右新


疑?

我留意到你舊個本其實已經開始就錯

你舊個本都係印GBR,只係國籍欄位寫了British National Overseas

我估計 HMPO 見到 GBR 同 BNO,查過紀錄冇其他證據顯示你究竟係BC定BNO,為了避免引起你對佢發起訴訟,所以照比BC你。因為根據我之前詢問英國國籍律師,出錯護照比持照人,並且在持照人確信為真嘅情況下使用超過一段合理時間,咁本護照記載嘅資料就可以成為既定事實。

所以你本護照並唔係冇原因。此外,BC係可以同時持有BNO身分。但句說話唔係你本護照咁。

BC係明文不可同時持有BNO


You are wrong - I hold both British National (Overseas) status and British Citizenship (by registration in the UK).
2017-07-16 16:09:04

左舊右新


疑?

我留意到你舊個本其實已經開始就錯

你舊個本都係印GBR,只係國籍欄位寫了British National Overseas

我估計 HMPO 見到 GBR 同 BNO,查過紀錄冇其他證據顯示你究竟係BC定BNO,為了避免引起你對佢發起訴訟,所以照比BC你。因為根據我之前詢問英國國籍律師,出錯護照比持照人,並且在持照人確信為真嘅情況下使用超過一段合理時間,咁本護照記載嘅資料就可以成為既定事實。

所以你本護照並唔係冇原因。此外,BC係可以同時持有BNO身分。但句說話唔係你本護照咁。

BC係明文不可同時持有BNO


You are wrong - I hold both British National (Overseas) status and British Citizenship (by registration in the UK).

country code兩本都係GBR,所以唔關事
2017-07-16 16:10:39
總之第日你移咗民先黎出事唔好喊住上黎

其實就應該有record嘅,以前有得係領事館續嘅年代,有巴打試過係其他國家嘅英國領事飯館拎咗本BC返黎,之後十年過期後係香港嘅英國領事館續,結果拎返BNO。

所以你哋呢類人要keep居留權就應該諗定去愛爾蘭,住夠數拎咗愛爾蘭國籍後永不續英國護照,呢招又係另外一個巴打玩過。點解一定係愛爾蘭,我唔認為英國退歐後會取消愛爾蘭人係英國嘅權利。


但係依家呢位巴打本嘢係畸型,係有比較大嘅風險會惹起假護照嘅風險。


The UK and Ireland are in the Common Travel Area. British Citizens can work in Ireland without the need of a work visa and vice versa.

The Common Travel Area was set up in the 1920s, so I do not think Brexit will change that.
2017-07-16 16:12:09
總之第日你移咗民先黎出事唔好喊住上黎

其實就應該有record嘅,以前有得係領事館續嘅年代,有巴打試過係其他國家嘅英國領事飯館拎咗本BC返黎,之後十年過期後係香港嘅英國領事館續,結果拎返BNO。

所以你哋呢類人要keep居留權就應該諗定去愛爾蘭,住夠數拎咗愛爾蘭國籍後永不續英國護照,呢招又係另外一個巴打玩過。點解一定係愛爾蘭,我唔認為英國退歐後會取消愛爾蘭人係英國嘅權利。


但係依家呢位巴打本嘢係畸型,係有比較大嘅風險會惹起假護照嘅風險。


每次續,其實佢會check返你作為bc/bno嘅證據 (其中可能係你交過嘅文件)。
下次續,一係寄呢本去續,到時就會俾人發現係錯。
如果話唔見左去續,實要再交自己父母資料,到時又會俾人check到。

除非你父母連自己係bc都唔知或者呃住你,唔係到時手尾長。風險自己衝量


唔為自己都為下一代
如果女友/老婆係BNO
去愛爾蘭生個B
博到個B有愛爾蘭籍的機會應該唔細


If a child born in the island of Ireland with a British Citizen parent, the child will also get Irish citizenship.
2017-07-16 16:18:06

左舊右新


疑?

我留意到你舊個本其實已經開始就錯

你舊個本都係印GBR,只係國籍欄位寫了British National Overseas

我估計 HMPO 見到 GBR 同 BNO,查過紀錄冇其他證據顯示你究竟係BC定BNO,為了避免引起你對佢發起訴訟,所以照比BC你。因為根據我之前詢問英國國籍律師,出錯護照比持照人,並且在持照人確信為真嘅情況下使用超過一段合理時間,咁本護照記載嘅資料就可以成為既定事實。

所以你本護照並唔係冇原因。此外,BC係可以同時持有BNO身分。但句說話唔係你本護照咁。

BC係明文不可同時持有BNO

唔可以持有兩本護照,但BC同BNO國籍係可以同時持有

之前有巴打試過同時拎兩本啦

下邊2個CODE都係GBR??


下面嗰度係咪咁
2017-07-16 16:20:59
出錯咗俾你嘅話唔該真係同 HMPO 講返
Home Office 發覺出錯咗嘅話係會向你收返
去其他地方旅行都叫事小 (見得多 BNO 嘅關員見到你句 observation 可能會有懷疑)
你去英國嘅話隨時會變咗非法入境要 deport

如果你諗住去英國長住嘅話就更加一定要換返
本身 BNO 拎 Tier 2 住滿五件可以拎 ILR
但係如果你以 BC 身份去住咗五年 Home Office 先話要收返,你唔單止冇得用 BNO 拎返 ILR,仲可能冇得再留喺英國

巴打你都幾唔熟英國法例

就算Home Office 5年後先話先話要收返
呢5年都係合法居留

咁你咪返香港拎 Tier 2 Visa 跟住再去住多五年用 long residence 拎 ILR 囉

因為既定事實概念
呢5年BC已經可以ILR


ILR is for people without the right of abode in the UK and subject to UK immigration control. ILR holders can still be deported from the UK and the status can be revoked if the holder stayed outside of the UK for more than 2 years.

On the other hand, British Citizens do have the right of abode in the UK, not subject to UK immigration control and citizenship can only be revoked by a Home Office minister. British Citizens cannot apply for ILR as they already have something better than ILR - right of abode in the UK.
2017-07-16 16:24:25

左舊右新


疑?

我留意到你舊個本其實已經開始就錯

你舊個本都係印GBR,只係國籍欄位寫了British National Overseas

我估計 HMPO 見到 GBR 同 BNO,查過紀錄冇其他證據顯示你究竟係BC定BNO,為了避免引起你對佢發起訴訟,所以照比BC你。因為根據我之前詢問英國國籍律師,出錯護照比持照人,並且在持照人確信為真嘅情況下使用超過一段合理時間,咁本護照記載嘅資料就可以成為既定事實。

所以你本護照並唔係冇原因。此外,BC係可以同時持有BNO身分。但句說話唔係你本護照咁。

BC係明文不可同時持有BNO


You are wrong - I hold both British National (Overseas) status and British Citizenship (by registration in the UK).

country code兩本都係GBR,所以唔關事


If you look at the second line at the machine readable part at the bottom of the passport - BN(O) passport is coded as GBN while British Citizen passport is coded as GBR.
2017-07-16 16:53:49

左舊右新


疑?

我留意到你舊個本其實已經開始就錯

你舊個本都係印GBR,只係國籍欄位寫了British National Overseas

我估計 HMPO 見到 GBR 同 BNO,查過紀錄冇其他證據顯示你究竟係BC定BNO,為了避免引起你對佢發起訴訟,所以照比BC你。因為根據我之前詢問英國國籍律師,出錯護照比持照人,並且在持照人確信為真嘅情況下使用超過一段合理時間,咁本護照記載嘅資料就可以成為既定事實。

所以你本護照並唔係冇原因。此外,BC係可以同時持有BNO身分。但句說話唔係你本護照咁。

BC係明文不可同時持有BNO


You are wrong - I hold both British National (Overseas) status and British Citizenship (by registration in the UK).

country code兩本都係GBR,所以唔關事


If you look at the second line at the machine readable part at the bottom of the passport - BN(O) passport is coded as GBN while British Citizen passport is coded as GBR.


但我個本BNO 係GBR喎
2017-07-16 17:01:17

左舊右新


疑?

我留意到你舊個本其實已經開始就錯

你舊個本都係印GBR,只係國籍欄位寫了British National Overseas

我估計 HMPO 見到 GBR 同 BNO,查過紀錄冇其他證據顯示你究竟係BC定BNO,為了避免引起你對佢發起訴訟,所以照比BC你。因為根據我之前詢問英國國籍律師,出錯護照比持照人,並且在持照人確信為真嘅情況下使用超過一段合理時間,咁本護照記載嘅資料就可以成為既定事實。

所以你本護照並唔係冇原因。此外,BC係可以同時持有BNO身分。但句說話唔係你本護照咁。

BC係明文不可同時持有BNO


You are wrong - I hold both British National (Overseas) status and British Citizenship (by registration in the UK).

country code兩本都係GBR,所以唔關事


If you look at the second line at the machine readable part at the bottom of the passport - BN(O) passport is coded as GBN while British Citizen passport is coded as GBR.


但我個本BNO 係GBR喎

冇人睇LINE2
2017-07-16 17:12:53

左舊右新


疑?

我留意到你舊個本其實已經開始就錯

你舊個本都係印GBR,只係國籍欄位寫了British National Overseas

我估計 HMPO 見到 GBR 同 BNO,查過紀錄冇其他證據顯示你究竟係BC定BNO,為了避免引起你對佢發起訴訟,所以照比BC你。因為根據我之前詢問英國國籍律師,出錯護照比持照人,並且在持照人確信為真嘅情況下使用超過一段合理時間,咁本護照記載嘅資料就可以成為既定事實。

所以你本護照並唔係冇原因。此外,BC係可以同時持有BNO身分。但句說話唔係你本護照咁。

BC係明文不可同時持有BNO


You are wrong - I hold both British National (Overseas) status and British Citizenship (by registration in the UK).

實際執行同文字規定就唔一定對位嘅
2017-07-16 17:29:01

左舊右新


疑?

我留意到你舊個本其實已經開始就錯

你舊個本都係印GBR,只係國籍欄位寫了British National Overseas

我估計 HMPO 見到 GBR 同 BNO,查過紀錄冇其他證據顯示你究竟係BC定BNO,為了避免引起你對佢發起訴訟,所以照比BC你。因為根據我之前詢問英國國籍律師,出錯護照比持照人,並且在持照人確信為真嘅情況下使用超過一段合理時間,咁本護照記載嘅資料就可以成為既定事實。

所以你本護照並唔係冇原因。此外,BC係可以同時持有BNO身分。但句說話唔係你本護照咁。

BC係明文不可同時持有BNO


You are wrong - I hold both British National (Overseas) status and British Citizenship (by registration in the UK).

實際執行同文字規定就唔一定對位嘅

明文?你有無source?我就從來無睇過有句咁嘅嘢,至少1985年香港法案同1986年香港(英國國籍)法令我無見過啲咁嘅嘢。
2017-07-16 17:41:11

左舊右新


疑?

我留意到你舊個本其實已經開始就錯

你舊個本都係印GBR,只係國籍欄位寫了British National Overseas

我估計 HMPO 見到 GBR 同 BNO,查過紀錄冇其他證據顯示你究竟係BC定BNO,為了避免引起你對佢發起訴訟,所以照比BC你。因為根據我之前詢問英國國籍律師,出錯護照比持照人,並且在持照人確信為真嘅情況下使用超過一段合理時間,咁本護照記載嘅資料就可以成為既定事實。

所以你本護照並唔係冇原因。此外,BC係可以同時持有BNO身分。但句說話唔係你本護照咁。

BC係明文不可同時持有BNO


You are wrong - I hold both British National (Overseas) status and British Citizenship (by registration in the UK).

實際執行同文字規定就唔一定對位嘅

明文?你有無source?我就從來無睇過有句咁嘅嘢,至少1985年香港法案同1986年香港(英國國籍)法令我無見過啲咁嘅嘢。


Renewal and replacement of BN(O) passports and BC passports with the BN(O) observation
Applications for the renewal or replacement of a BN(O) passport, or a BC passport with the BN(O) observation, should be dealt with in the normal way with the appropriate observation(s) being entered in the passport.
NOTE: A British Citizen passport and a BN(O) passport cannot be held at the same time.
Source:https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploadsattachment_data/file/118595/british-national-dep-citizens.pdf
2017-07-16 17:42:03
又有罵戰?
2017-07-16 17:53:02
What type of passport is needed?
First British passport (or renewal of an Old Blue passport)

佢自己幫我選左呢個
我係想續BNO 請問呢個岩唔岩
2017-07-16 18:12:43
又有罵戰?


2017-07-16 18:25:48

左舊右新


疑?

我留意到你舊個本其實已經開始就錯

你舊個本都係印GBR,只係國籍欄位寫了British National Overseas

我估計 HMPO 見到 GBR 同 BNO,查過紀錄冇其他證據顯示你究竟係BC定BNO,為了避免引起你對佢發起訴訟,所以照比BC你。因為根據我之前詢問英國國籍律師,出錯護照比持照人,並且在持照人確信為真嘅情況下使用超過一段合理時間,咁本護照記載嘅資料就可以成為既定事實。

所以你本護照並唔係冇原因。此外,BC係可以同時持有BNO身分。但句說話唔係你本護照咁。

BC係明文不可同時持有BNO


You are wrong - I hold both British National (Overseas) status and British Citizenship (by registration in the UK).

實際執行同文字規定就唔一定對位嘅

明文?你有無source?我就從來無睇過有句咁嘅嘢,至少1985年香港法案同1986年香港(英國國籍)法令我無見過啲咁嘅嘢。


Renewal and replacement of BN(O) passports and BC passports with the BN(O) observation
Applications for the renewal or replacement of a BN(O) passport, or a BC passport with the BN(O) observation, should be dealt with in the normal way with the appropriate observation(s) being entered in the passport.
NOTE: A British Citizen passport and a BN(O) passport cannot be held at the same time.
Source:https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploadsattachment_data/file/118595/british-national-dep-citizens.pdf

你呢句係講護照,我要佢拎source出黎係講身份
2017-07-16 19:30:06
你呢句係講護照,我要佢拎source出黎係講身份

我記得好似用 B(OTA) reg 做 BC 係會冇咗 BNO 身份
但係以 BNSS 或者 by birth 嘅 BC 就唔會影響到 BNO
2017-07-16 20:30:34

左舊右新


A British Citizen can live and work in Ireland without a permit. Once lived in Ireland for five years, a British Citizen can apply for Irish citizenship.

If Leaving Bro wished to move to Ireland with his new found British Citizen passport, then that is his choice. The advantage of Ireland over other parts of the EU is that Ireland is an English speaking country which can make life easier for people from Hong Kong. On the other hand, it is difficult to find a job in Ireland. Leaving Bro can try and get a job in a Chinese restaurant.

Life in Ireland is not like Hong Kong - it is hard, but if you have an aim (getting Irish citizenship in 5 years), then it can be easier!
2017-07-16 20:38:32
總之第日你移咗民先黎出事唔好喊住上黎




I don't understand why people want to stay in Hong Kong until the end. If you can go, then move to another country. What is the point staying until the end? Your chances in getting a immigration visa for another country decrease as time goes on.
2017-07-16 21:29:34
又有罵戰?



但係佢本passport 入面唔係寫明right of abode 係hong kong 咩?
2017-07-16 22:38:45
都係嗰句啦,揸住本唔知係錯定啱嘅護照,出入境風險自行承擔。如果係我收到,我就寧願send個email問吓,好過第時有乜事就怪自己當時唔問吓。

佢又唔係用假護照,又真係無犯法
我相信真係英國以外,其他國家都都視你為BC
始終英國護照observation 太多變化同太多嘢可以寫落去
入境官掃機掃到你係BC就係BC
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