『薪火post』BNO 續期資訊(19) 淋病稱BNO權利不變
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歐盟都唔係傻仔嚟，以前英係歐盟着數攞盡，好多嘢又唔跟大隊，依家走仲想攞着數，歐盟睬佢有味
請問大家
我黎緊會響中國去馬來西亞（唔係轉機）
機票資料係用bno
咁我出中國境果時用bno會唔會比人扣
定用回鄉卡出中國境，然後入馬來西亞境時用bno?
我黎緊會響中國去馬來西亞（唔係轉機）
機票資料係用bno
咁我出中國境果時用bno會唔會比人扣
定用回鄉卡出中國境，然後入馬來西亞境時用bno?
咁你係點樣入中國境？ 你用咩入中國境，咪用返咩出中國境。
係囉
以前英係歐盟着數攞盡 - it is pay for by the UK's contribution to the European Commission's budget. The UK is the second largest net contributor to the EU budget.
記得帶回鄉証
但佢攞返唔少opt out
Sometimes I think it may be best to have a so call 'hard' Brexit - it is the easiest option for all parties concern.
However, EU immigration did played a big role in the Brexit vote. The problem with the current EU customs union (the one with Turkey) is that while Turkey needs to open up its market to those who signed a free trade deal with the EU, the other side does not need to give Turkish goods the same access as EU goods.
If the UK stayed in the EU customs union, then the Irish border is less of a question.
The EU also needs to acknowledge that there are a number of countries in Europe, UK included, that do not wish to have closer integration with the EU. Norway and Iceland are put off by the need to share their fishing waters with other EU countries under the Common Fisheries Policy if they become EU members. The UK and Switzerland have domestic issues on EU immigration while allowing Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia to join the EU will risk Russian displeasure to say the lease. On the other hand, Turkey is keen to join the EU, but many EU countries like Germany, do not want it to happen. I know it is a big ask, but all I am saying is that the European Commission should take Brexit as an opportunity to build a form of associated membership that would suit the above countries.
我都係hoping嘅人嚟 - with all due respect, you can continue to hope, but it is very unlikely that the UK government will give BN(O) passport holders the right of abode in the UK - unless something like what happened in Peking on the 4 June 1989 is to take place in Hong Kong (which I am sure that anyone with the right mind would not want it to happen).
However, EU immigration did played a big role in the Brexit vote. The problem with the current EU customs union (the one with Turkey) is that while Turkey needs to open up its market to those who signed a free trade deal with the EU, the other side does not need to give Turkish goods the same access as EU goods.
If the UK stayed in the EU customs union, then the Irish border is less of a question.
The EU also needs to acknowledge that there are a number of countries in Europe, UK included, that do not wish to have closer integration with the EU. Norway and Iceland are put off by the need to share their fishing waters with other EU countries under the Common Fisheries Policy if they become EU members. The UK and Switzerland have domestic issues on EU immigration while allowing Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia to join the EU will risk Russian displeasure to say the lease. On the other hand, Turkey is keen to join the EU, but many EU countries like Germany, do not want it to happen. I know it is a big ask, but all I am saying is that the European Commission should take Brexit as an opportunity to build a form of associated membership that would suit the above countries.
我都係hoping嘅人嚟 - with all due respect, you can continue to hope, but it is very unlikely that the UK government will give BN(O) passport holders the right of abode in the UK - unless something like what happened in Peking on the 4 June 1989 is to take place in Hong Kong (which I am sure that anyone with the right mind would not want it to happen).
The UK is not the only country in the EU which have opt-outs. Denmark, Ireland and Poland also have opt-outs in the EU.
Another form of opt-out is the single currency. When the Eastern European states joined the EU in 2004 and 2007, they were oblige to join the Euro. Many of them are still using their own currency today.
Another form of opt-out is the single currency. When the Eastern European states joined the EU in 2004 and 2007, they were oblige to join the Euro. Many of them are still using their own currency today.
你講嘅十居其九我都唔係好了解，亦唔睇重
如果重心睇返係英國到嘅
EU係咩嚟其實都好明顯
佢實際操作只係幾個主要國家嘅
其實英國同歐陸本身嘅核心都有分別
最簡單係歐陸啲國家連埋，地理上已經畀到啲理由要有緊密關係，再加上要對抗俄國乜乜乜
再者我睇過篇嘢，已經唔記得好多，但係話德國好大權嘅歐盟底下，加咗唔少德國嘅文化核心落其他國家到，好似希臘、葡萄牙依啲典型享樂派，受到歐元區嘅政策影響，其實係直接影響緊佢地本身嘅文化，強行加諸咗德國嘅「勤奮」落去
而歐盟亦變質到係幾個主要國家-德國、法國、意大利經濟上供養其他小國，同時搶晒啲工業過去。英國都係其中之一，係歐盟底下，大條道理唔做工業，同一市場下點同德國鬥？英國佬仲要生意佬文化，點都唔會特別睇重本土經濟
所以講到尾，歐盟有戰略嘅需要，某啲情況可以幫到各國（廢話，咁多範疇一定有啲），但同時亦製造到啲返唔到轉頭嘅問題，好似依家英國就係，脫歐彰顯咗泥足深陷嘅情況。都未講唔知啲歐豬國又幾時出問題
好似你噉講，有啲國家係歐盟其實有問題（或者係國家文化、背景、經濟配合唔到），一個聯盟冇可能代表晒全部國家，我覺得，拎返個主導權係重要
但回歸原點 依家根本係點Brexit都搞到一鑊泡，我認為都係警號嚟，有乜理由一個國家會因為脫離個聯盟變到會死噉滯咁多問題？走得早就準備好轉變返做一個有主導權嘅國家啦，還掂都返唔到轉頭
不過係依個之前，都係食住花生等到transition periodsssss過
希望唔會膠到無限extend 依家嘅情況似會
如果重心睇返係英國到嘅EU係咩嚟其實都好明顯
佢實際操作只係幾個主要國家嘅
其實英國同歐陸本身嘅核心都有分別
最簡單係歐陸啲國家連埋，地理上已經畀到啲理由要有緊密關係，再加上要對抗俄國乜乜乜
再者我睇過篇嘢，已經唔記得好多，但係話德國好大權嘅歐盟底下，加咗唔少德國嘅文化核心落其他國家到，好似希臘、葡萄牙依啲典型享樂派，受到歐元區嘅政策影響，其實係直接影響緊佢地本身嘅文化，強行加諸咗德國嘅「勤奮」落去
而歐盟亦變質到係幾個主要國家-德國、法國、意大利經濟上供養其他小國，同時搶晒啲工業過去。英國都係其中之一，係歐盟底下，大條道理唔做工業，同一市場下點同德國鬥？英國佬仲要生意佬文化，點都唔會特別睇重本土經濟
所以講到尾，歐盟有戰略嘅需要，某啲情況可以幫到各國（廢話，咁多範疇一定有啲），但同時亦製造到啲返唔到轉頭嘅問題，好似依家英國就係，脫歐彰顯咗泥足深陷嘅情況。都未講唔知啲歐豬國又幾時出問題
好似你噉講，有啲國家係歐盟其實有問題（或者係國家文化、背景、經濟配合唔到），一個聯盟冇可能代表晒全部國家，我覺得，拎返個主導權係重要
但回歸原點
依家根本係點Brexit都搞到一鑊泡，我認為都係警號嚟，有乜理由一個國家會因為脫離個聯盟變到會死噉滯咁多問題？走得早就準備好轉變返做一個有主導權嘅國家啦，還掂都返唔到轉頭不過係依個之前，都係食住花生等到transition periodsssss過
希望唔會膠到無限extend 依家嘅情況似會一個國家會因為脫離個聯盟變到會死噉滯咁多問題？ - you need to remember that the large number of EEC and EU laws and regulations that came with membership over 40 years which needs to be sorted out.
不過係依個之前，都係食住花生等到transition periodsssss過 希望唔會膠到無限extend 依家嘅情況似會 - I do not think the EU would like that. It wants to have a agreement to govern the EU-UK relationship post Brexit. As the Commission always says that you cannot cherry-pick.
我覺得，拎返個主導權係重要 - While you are in a club like the EU, you will have to give up some sovereignty to be a member. The question is how much? The EU immigration issue became such an issue that it is difficult for Remainers to get a hearing. The fact that EU national working in the UK can get child benefit for their children living in their own respective EU countries does not help matters.
Many people in Hong Kong complained about the 150 mainland Chinese being allowed to come and settle in Hong Kong each day. How would you feel if you are not even able to control the number of people coming in under the freedom of movement rights that the UK is subject to under EU membership? Take Poles as an example - there were 66,000 Poles in the UK according to UK census in 2001. In the 2011 census, seven years after Poland became an EU member state, there were 654,000 Poles in the UK.
不過係依個之前，都係食住花生等到transition periodsssss過
希望唔會膠到無限extend 依家嘅情況似會 - I do not think the EU would like that. It wants to have a agreement to govern the EU-UK relationship post Brexit. As the Commission always says that you cannot cherry-pick.我覺得，拎返個主導權係重要 - While you are in a club like the EU, you will have to give up some sovereignty to be a member. The question is how much? The EU immigration issue became such an issue that it is difficult for Remainers to get a hearing. The fact that EU national working in the UK can get child benefit for their children living in their own respective EU countries does not help matters.
Many people in Hong Kong complained about the 150 mainland Chinese being allowed to come and settle in Hong Kong each day. How would you feel if you are not even able to control the number of people coming in under the freedom of movement rights that the UK is subject to under EU membership? Take Poles as an example - there were 66,000 Poles in the UK according to UK census in 2001. In the 2011 census, seven years after Poland became an EU member state, there were 654,000 Poles in the UK.
我諗你搞錯咗啲嘢
我冇覺得Brexit做錯，亦冇否認解決到有啲問題
個結果都出咗，又搵唔到咩理由「一定一定」要remain，eg 俄國聽日就攻入歐洲乜乜乜
只係覺得依家英國泥足深陷搞到一鑊泡，好有花生食啫
其實依十幾個月都見到好明顯係有好多問題係兩難，真係好兩難，每個方法都有一大lot缺點。而且英國亦冇一邊嘅意見特別強勢，我依幾個月淨係睇到英國不斷MPs話乜乜乜、PM又唔滿意又乜乜乜，但根本冇進展過。
仲有唔夠一年就要transition period，依個進度真係會有分別咩？除非有咩大事，如果冇嘅話只會夾係中間夾硬hard brexit，一係就無限extend
唔係，而係如果要查paper檔案嘅話佢哋係好晒時間。
等多個星期就可以開估
但係入離境大堂果下唔係show passport+機票架咩
過中國海關用回鄉證我都知，但入離境大堂就⋯⋯
過中國海關用回鄉證我都知，但入離境大堂就⋯⋯
本野無套用完一次花晒 大家點保養本BNO
大家點保養本BNO中方不承認BNO為有效的証件，有巴絲試過用BNO係中國轉飛日本或其他地方，但因為無回鄉証，不能離境。當然都有人好彩試過無事，因為海關唔識分。
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