This does put a smile on my face (109)

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2017-12-17 18:39:30

咁唔關家族都可以,如隊長咁為信念為國家,所以人地一開始就自願當兵,但rey明顯完全無依d野,好似係下,有人要我幫,盲鍾鍾幫左反抗軍,咁反正本身都無野做咪加入囉

如果佢今集講rey冇backstory同時build up到一個強烈參戰原因
一定冇咁多人屌
而家又要留返下集講喇

依d野第一集已經要講啦
有邊套打鬥片唔係第一集講晒左主角要戰鬥的原因架,主角喎

佢地話要破舊立新呀
但又成日攞返ani同luke出黎同rey比
好喇 就跟佢地講luke喇
人地ep4一開波就冚家剷 交代左點解要參戰
rey去到第二集喇 角色發展呢 去左邊

Luke連養父母都冚家剷埋啊,仲要望住咁冚家剷啊。
Luke New Hope已經炸鳩咗Death Star喇


人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢
2017-12-17 18:44:46

咁唔關家族都可以,如隊長咁為信念為國家,所以人地一開始就自願當兵,但rey明顯完全無依d野,好似係下,有人要我幫,盲鍾鍾幫左反抗軍,咁反正本身都無野做咪加入囉

如果佢今集講rey冇backstory同時build up到一個強烈參戰原因
一定冇咁多人屌
而家又要留返下集講喇

依d野第一集已經要講啦
有邊套打鬥片唔係第一集講晒左主角要戰鬥的原因架,主角喎

佢地話要破舊立新呀
但又成日攞返ani同luke出黎同rey比
好喇 就跟佢地講luke喇
人地ep4一開波就冚家剷 交代左點解要參戰
rey去到第二集喇 角色發展呢 去左邊

Luke連養父母都冚家剷埋啊,仲要望住咁冚家剷啊。
Luke New Hope已經炸鳩咗Death Star喇


人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢

而反觀Rey 果邊連一個訓練都未做過就無程程做咗Last Jedi
所以Rey 嘅所有嘢根本就係Setting 砌出嚟,根本比唔到一個係佢自己Earn返嚟嘅感覺,而係Given by The-One-Above-All ,仲要同我講佢係Jedi 嘅模範
2017-12-17 18:46:28

人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢

佢地仲要屈我地唔俾rey原力勁
我地唔係唔俾佢勁 佢要爆seed冇問題 一黎就打贏kylo都冇問題
但你要解釋點解佢咁勁囉
而唔係一句撻埋黎 佢設定係咁勁呀 吹咩
咁你前面鋪咁多野做乜鳩

死啦又開始loop喇
算啦我地講其他野啦
2017-12-17 18:49:11

咁唔關家族都可以,如隊長咁為信念為國家,所以人地一開始就自願當兵,但rey明顯完全無依d野,好似係下,有人要我幫,盲鍾鍾幫左反抗軍,咁反正本身都無野做咪加入囉

如果佢今集講rey冇backstory同時build up到一個強烈參戰原因
一定冇咁多人屌
而家又要留返下集講喇

依d野第一集已經要講啦
有邊套打鬥片唔係第一集講晒左主角要戰鬥的原因架,主角喎

佢地話要破舊立新呀
但又成日攞返ani同luke出黎同rey比
好喇 就跟佢地講luke喇
人地ep4一開波就冚家剷 交代左點解要參戰
rey去到第二集喇 角色發展呢 去左邊

Luke連養父母都冚家剷埋啊,仲要望住咁冚家剷啊。
Luke New Hope已經炸鳩咗Death Star喇


人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢

而反觀Rey 果邊連一個訓練都未做過就無程程做咗Last Jedi
所以Rey 嘅所有嘢根本就係Setting 砌出嚟,根本比唔到一個係佢自己Earn返嚟嘅感覺,而係Given by The-One-Above-All ,仲要同我講佢係Jedi 嘅模範


咁咪即係一種無付出過,總之我天生勁我大晒,仲衰過你血統
人地luke當年經過幾多挑戰訓練先得架

家人死晒,被隻怪打傷過,被Yoda 訓練救訓,被老豆斬左隻手,宜家漫畫仲係咁係4-6中間講佢依三年的經歷
2017-12-17 18:51:13

咁唔關家族都可以,如隊長咁為信念為國家,所以人地一開始就自願當兵,但rey明顯完全無依d野,好似係下,有人要我幫,盲鍾鍾幫左反抗軍,咁反正本身都無野做咪加入囉

如果佢今集講rey冇backstory同時build up到一個強烈參戰原因
一定冇咁多人屌
而家又要留返下集講喇

依d野第一集已經要講啦
有邊套打鬥片唔係第一集講晒左主角要戰鬥的原因架,主角喎

佢地話要破舊立新呀
但又成日攞返ani同luke出黎同rey比
好喇 就跟佢地講luke喇
人地ep4一開波就冚家剷 交代左點解要參戰
rey去到第二集喇 角色發展呢 去左邊

Luke連養父母都冚家剷埋啊,仲要望住咁冚家剷啊。
Luke New Hope已經炸鳩咗Death Star喇


人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢

而反觀Rey 果邊連一個訓練都未做過就無程程做咗Last Jedi
所以Rey 嘅所有嘢根本就係Setting 砌出嚟,根本比唔到一個係佢自己Earn返嚟嘅感覺,而係Given by The-One-Above-All ,仲要同我講佢係Jedi 嘅模範


咁咪即係一種無付出過,總之我天生勁我大晒,仲衰過你血統
人地luke當年經過幾多挑戰訓練先得架

家人死晒,被隻怪打傷過,被Yoda 訓練救訓,被老豆斬左隻手,宜家漫畫仲係咁係4-6中間講佢依三年的經歷


打錯,仲係4同5
6之後都係有一篇漫畫講佢有幾強
2017-12-17 18:53:39

人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢

佢地仲要屈我地唔俾rey原力勁
我地唔係唔俾佢勁 佢要爆seed冇問題 一黎就打贏kylo都冇問題
但你要解釋點解佢咁勁囉
而唔係一句撻埋黎 佢設定係咁勁呀 吹咩
咁你前面鋪咁多野做乜鳩

死啦又開始loop喇
算啦我地講其他野啦

所有好多鬼佬都話 睇完TLJ 再睇 TFA 係會覺得 TFA 所有嘢都係Pointless。
一句我覺得幾好嘅總結:Both films are a victim of the others ambition and both make the other weaker.

Btw,睇慣Andy Serkis 啲cg 樣,睇佢真人好陌生,明明呢幾年就睇過好多佢嘅戲
2017-12-17 18:58:55

咁唔關家族都可以,如隊長咁為信念為國家,所以人地一開始就自願當兵,但rey明顯完全無依d野,好似係下,有人要我幫,盲鍾鍾幫左反抗軍,咁反正本身都無野做咪加入囉

如果佢今集講rey冇backstory同時build up到一個強烈參戰原因
一定冇咁多人屌
而家又要留返下集講喇

依d野第一集已經要講啦
有邊套打鬥片唔係第一集講晒左主角要戰鬥的原因架,主角喎

佢地話要破舊立新呀
但又成日攞返ani同luke出黎同rey比
好喇 就跟佢地講luke喇
人地ep4一開波就冚家剷 交代左點解要參戰
rey去到第二集喇 角色發展呢 去左邊

Luke連養父母都冚家剷埋啊,仲要望住咁冚家剷啊。
Luke New Hope已經炸鳩咗Death Star喇


人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢

而反觀Rey 果邊連一個訓練都未做過就無程程做咗Last Jedi
所以Rey 嘅所有嘢根本就係Setting 砌出嚟,根本比唔到一個係佢自己Earn返嚟嘅感覺,而係Given by The-One-Above-All ,仲要同我講佢係Jedi 嘅模範


咁咪即係一種無付出過,總之我天生勁我大晒,仲衰過你血統
人地luke當年經過幾多挑戰訓練先得架

家人死晒,被隻怪打傷過,被Yoda 訓練救訓,被老豆斬左隻手,宜家漫畫仲係咁係4-6中間講佢依三年的經歷


打錯,仲係4同5
6之後都係有一篇漫畫講佢有幾強

無錯,就算係有The Chosen One 血統都要九九八十一難,因為唔係苦難中建立出嚟嘅主角,觀眾根本唔會覺得佢耀眼。E.g. 鋼鍊嘅愛德華兄弟係一個好例子。

同埋佢哋好鍾意有一個論調係:Skywalker 可以係The Chosen One,點解Rey 唔可以係原力之女
就好似已經證明咗佢係原力之女咁喎 有鬼講過咩
就算佢真係咩原力之女,都好似無傷登天咁,都係一張白紙,都係果句:Why Her?
2017-12-17 19:16:34

咁唔關家族都可以,如隊長咁為信念為國家,所以人地一開始就自願當兵,但rey明顯完全無依d野,好似係下,有人要我幫,盲鍾鍾幫左反抗軍,咁反正本身都無野做咪加入囉

如果佢今集講rey冇backstory同時build up到一個強烈參戰原因
一定冇咁多人屌
而家又要留返下集講喇

依d野第一集已經要講啦
有邊套打鬥片唔係第一集講晒左主角要戰鬥的原因架,主角喎

佢地話要破舊立新呀
但又成日攞返ani同luke出黎同rey比
好喇 就跟佢地講luke喇
人地ep4一開波就冚家剷 交代左點解要參戰
rey去到第二集喇 角色發展呢 去左邊

Luke連養父母都冚家剷埋啊,仲要望住咁冚家剷啊。
Luke New Hope已經炸鳩咗Death Star喇


人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢

而反觀Rey 果邊連一個訓練都未做過就無程程做咗Last Jedi
所以Rey 嘅所有嘢根本就係Setting 砌出嚟,根本比唔到一個係佢自己Earn返嚟嘅感覺,而係Given by The-One-Above-All ,仲要同我講佢係Jedi 嘅模範


咁咪即係一種無付出過,總之我天生勁我大晒,仲衰過你血統
人地luke當年經過幾多挑戰訓練先得架

家人死晒,被隻怪打傷過,被Yoda 訓練救訓,被老豆斬左隻手,宜家漫畫仲係咁係4-6中間講佢依三年的經歷


打錯,仲係4同5
6之後都係有一篇漫畫講佢有幾強

無錯,就算係有The Chosen One 血統都要九九八十一難,因為唔係苦難中建立出嚟嘅主角,觀眾根本唔會覺得佢耀眼。E.g. 鋼鍊嘅愛德華兄弟係一個好例子。

同埋佢哋好鍾意有一個論調係:Skywalker 可以係The Chosen One,點解Rey 唔可以係原力之女
就好似已經證明咗佢係原力之女咁喎 有鬼講過咩
就算佢真係咩原力之女,都好似無傷登天咁,都係一張白紙,都係果句:Why Her?



Tony咁撚有米都要係被人捉左的情況下整個mark 1出黎都係打敗d二打六炸
之後要係咁實驗,失敗過無數次再加堅定決心先整d勁甲出黎做英雄

Rey經驗過d咩?咁快打敗Ben?
2017-12-17 19:20:43

Luke連養父母都冚家剷埋啊,仲要望住咁冚家剷啊。
Luke New Hope已經炸鳩咗Death Star喇


人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢

而反觀Rey 果邊連一個訓練都未做過就無程程做咗Last Jedi
所以Rey 嘅所有嘢根本就係Setting 砌出嚟,根本比唔到一個係佢自己Earn返嚟嘅感覺,而係Given by The-One-Above-All ,仲要同我講佢係Jedi 嘅模範


咁咪即係一種無付出過,總之我天生勁我大晒,仲衰過你血統
人地luke當年經過幾多挑戰訓練先得架

家人死晒,被隻怪打傷過,被Yoda 訓練救訓,被老豆斬左隻手,宜家漫畫仲係咁係4-6中間講佢依三年的經歷


打錯,仲係4同5
6之後都係有一篇漫畫講佢有幾強

無錯,就算係有The Chosen One 血統都要九九八十一難,因為唔係苦難中建立出嚟嘅主角,觀眾根本唔會覺得佢耀眼。E.g. 鋼鍊嘅愛德華兄弟係一個好例子。

同埋佢哋好鍾意有一個論調係:Skywalker 可以係The Chosen One,點解Rey 唔可以係原力之女
就好似已經證明咗佢係原力之女咁喎 有鬼講過咩
就算佢真係咩原力之女,都好似無傷登天咁,都係一張白紙,都係果句:Why Her?



Tony咁撚有米都要係被人捉左的情況下整個mark 1出黎都係打敗d二打六炸
之後要係咁實驗,失敗過無數次再加堅定決心先整d勁甲出黎做英雄

Rey經驗過d咩?咁快打敗Ben?

開咁大個頭(冇train過既rey打贏學晒light同dark side加skywalker bloodline既ben) 跟住草草了事話係nobody
2017-12-17 19:20:45

咁唔關家族都可以,如隊長咁為信念為國家,所以人地一開始就自願當兵,但rey明顯完全無依d野,好似係下,有人要我幫,盲鍾鍾幫左反抗軍,咁反正本身都無野做咪加入囉

如果佢今集講rey冇backstory同時build up到一個強烈參戰原因
一定冇咁多人屌
而家又要留返下集講喇

依d野第一集已經要講啦
有邊套打鬥片唔係第一集講晒左主角要戰鬥的原因架,主角喎

佢地話要破舊立新呀
但又成日攞返ani同luke出黎同rey比
好喇 就跟佢地講luke喇
人地ep4一開波就冚家剷 交代左點解要參戰
rey去到第二集喇 角色發展呢 去左邊

Luke連養父母都冚家剷埋啊,仲要望住咁冚家剷啊。
Luke New Hope已經炸鳩咗Death Star喇


人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢

而反觀Rey 果邊連一個訓練都未做過就無程程做咗Last Jedi
所以Rey 嘅所有嘢根本就係Setting 砌出嚟,根本比唔到一個係佢自己Earn返嚟嘅感覺,而係Given by The-One-Above-All ,仲要同我講佢係Jedi 嘅模範


咁咪即係一種無付出過,總之我天生勁我大晒,仲衰過你血統
人地luke當年經過幾多挑戰訓練先得架

家人死晒,被隻怪打傷過,被Yoda 訓練救訓,被老豆斬左隻手,宜家漫畫仲係咁係4-6中間講佢依三年的經歷


打錯,仲係4同5
6之後都係有一篇漫畫講佢有幾強

無錯,就算係有The Chosen One 血統都要九九八十一難,因為唔係苦難中建立出嚟嘅主角,觀眾根本唔會覺得佢耀眼。E.g. 鋼鍊嘅愛德華兄弟係一個好例子。

同埋佢哋好鍾意有一個論調係:Skywalker 可以係The Chosen One,點解Rey 唔可以係原力之女
就好似已經證明咗佢係原力之女咁喎 有鬼講過咩
就算佢真係咩原力之女,都好似無傷登天咁,都係一張白紙,都係果句:Why Her?



Tony咁撚有米都要係被人捉左的情況下整個mark 1出黎都係打敗d二打六炸
之後要係咁實驗,失敗過無數次再加堅定決心先整d勁甲出黎做英雄

Rey經驗過d咩?咁快打敗Ben?

我覺得電影有個位其實Develop 得好啲會好豐富Rey 嘅人設,就係佢同Ben 聯手打龍蝦兵果度,我Expect係Non-stop communication,而唔係三句唔埋兩句又變返Light 同Dark 嘅對決,屌咁一開波著墨咁重講Balance做乜柒
2017-12-17 19:21:32

Luke連養父母都冚家剷埋啊,仲要望住咁冚家剷啊。
Luke New Hope已經炸鳩咗Death Star喇


人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢

而反觀Rey 果邊連一個訓練都未做過就無程程做咗Last Jedi
所以Rey 嘅所有嘢根本就係Setting 砌出嚟,根本比唔到一個係佢自己Earn返嚟嘅感覺,而係Given by The-One-Above-All ,仲要同我講佢係Jedi 嘅模範


咁咪即係一種無付出過,總之我天生勁我大晒,仲衰過你血統
人地luke當年經過幾多挑戰訓練先得架

家人死晒,被隻怪打傷過,被Yoda 訓練救訓,被老豆斬左隻手,宜家漫畫仲係咁係4-6中間講佢依三年的經歷


打錯,仲係4同5
6之後都係有一篇漫畫講佢有幾強

無錯,就算係有The Chosen One 血統都要九九八十一難,因為唔係苦難中建立出嚟嘅主角,觀眾根本唔會覺得佢耀眼。E.g. 鋼鍊嘅愛德華兄弟係一個好例子。

同埋佢哋好鍾意有一個論調係:Skywalker 可以係The Chosen One,點解Rey 唔可以係原力之女
就好似已經證明咗佢係原力之女咁喎 有鬼講過咩
就算佢真係咩原力之女,都好似無傷登天咁,都係一張白紙,都係果句:Why Her?



Tony咁撚有米都要係被人捉左的情況下整個mark 1出黎都係打敗d二打六炸
之後要係咁實驗,失敗過無數次再加堅定決心先整d勁甲出黎做英雄

Rey經驗過d咩?咁快打敗Ben?

開咁大個頭(冇train過既rey打贏學晒light同dark side加skywalker bloodline既ben) 跟住草草了事話係nobody

TLJ was basically to destroy everything about TFA.
Knights of Ren: Nah not important
Who is Snoke and what barring does he have: Not important
Kylo Ren having a mask like Darth Vader: Nah let's drop that
Mystery around Rey's parents: Doesn't matter, they're just junk traders
Building up to seeing the legendary Luke Skywalker: Just toss that shit over your shoulder because it's not worth your time.
So it really shouldn't be surprising that people will love and hate the movie as it is in direct conflict with the last move.


From Reddit
2017-12-17 19:31:32

Luke連養父母都冚家剷埋啊,仲要望住咁冚家剷啊。
Luke New Hope已經炸鳩咗Death Star喇


人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢

而反觀Rey 果邊連一個訓練都未做過就無程程做咗Last Jedi
所以Rey 嘅所有嘢根本就係Setting 砌出嚟,根本比唔到一個係佢自己Earn返嚟嘅感覺,而係Given by The-One-Above-All ,仲要同我講佢係Jedi 嘅模範


咁咪即係一種無付出過,總之我天生勁我大晒,仲衰過你血統
人地luke當年經過幾多挑戰訓練先得架

家人死晒,被隻怪打傷過,被Yoda 訓練救訓,被老豆斬左隻手,宜家漫畫仲係咁係4-6中間講佢依三年的經歷


打錯,仲係4同5
6之後都係有一篇漫畫講佢有幾強

無錯,就算係有The Chosen One 血統都要九九八十一難,因為唔係苦難中建立出嚟嘅主角,觀眾根本唔會覺得佢耀眼。E.g. 鋼鍊嘅愛德華兄弟係一個好例子。

同埋佢哋好鍾意有一個論調係:Skywalker 可以係The Chosen One,點解Rey 唔可以係原力之女
就好似已經證明咗佢係原力之女咁喎 有鬼講過咩
就算佢真係咩原力之女,都好似無傷登天咁,都係一張白紙,都係果句:Why Her?



Tony咁撚有米都要係被人捉左的情況下整個mark 1出黎都係打敗d二打六炸
之後要係咁實驗,失敗過無數次再加堅定決心先整d勁甲出黎做英雄

Rey經驗過d咩?咁快打敗Ben?

開咁大個頭(冇train過既rey打贏學晒light同dark side加skywalker bloodline既ben) 跟住草草了事話係nobody


會唔會又係眼高手低?
正前傳就係知二個主角第一集係未訓練
所以打戲都交俾obi
呢度
2017-12-17 19:35:16

TLJ was basically to destroy everything about TFA.
Knights of Ren: Nah not important
Who is Snoke and what barring does he have: Not important
Kylo Ren having a mask like Darth Vader: Nah let's drop that
Mystery around Rey's parents: Doesn't matter, they're just junk traders
Building up to seeing the legendary Luke Skywalker: Just toss that shit over your shoulder because it's not worth your time.
So it really shouldn't be surprising that people will love and hate the movie as it is in direct conflict with the last move.


From Reddit

完全唔知今集做咩
2017-12-17 19:46:15

Luke連養父母都冚家剷埋啊,仲要望住咁冚家剷啊。
Luke New Hope已經炸鳩咗Death Star喇


人地luke一步一步成長
第一集尾開始感受到原力,幫佢打爆死星
第二集開始識運用原力,一開始念動力,訓練用後就完全運用到
第三集真正覺醒,可以檔光槍,真係真正成熟,仲識埋自己整光劍,原力鎖,催眠人等技能

一步一步講主角好快咁逐樣逐樣識先係顯得佢勁架
Rey一開波打敗ben 連訓練都無,你唔係覺得rey強囉,係覺得ben廢

而反觀Rey 果邊連一個訓練都未做過就無程程做咗Last Jedi
所以Rey 嘅所有嘢根本就係Setting 砌出嚟,根本比唔到一個係佢自己Earn返嚟嘅感覺,而係Given by The-One-Above-All ,仲要同我講佢係Jedi 嘅模範


咁咪即係一種無付出過,總之我天生勁我大晒,仲衰過你血統
人地luke當年經過幾多挑戰訓練先得架

家人死晒,被隻怪打傷過,被Yoda 訓練救訓,被老豆斬左隻手,宜家漫畫仲係咁係4-6中間講佢依三年的經歷


打錯,仲係4同5
6之後都係有一篇漫畫講佢有幾強

無錯,就算係有The Chosen One 血統都要九九八十一難,因為唔係苦難中建立出嚟嘅主角,觀眾根本唔會覺得佢耀眼。E.g. 鋼鍊嘅愛德華兄弟係一個好例子。

同埋佢哋好鍾意有一個論調係:Skywalker 可以係The Chosen One,點解Rey 唔可以係原力之女
就好似已經證明咗佢係原力之女咁喎 有鬼講過咩
就算佢真係咩原力之女,都好似無傷登天咁,都係一張白紙,都係果句:Why Her?



Tony咁撚有米都要係被人捉左的情況下整個mark 1出黎都係打敗d二打六炸
之後要係咁實驗,失敗過無數次再加堅定決心先整d勁甲出黎做英雄

Rey經驗過d咩?咁快打敗Ben?

開咁大個頭(冇train過既rey打贏學晒light同dark side加skywalker bloodline既ben) 跟住草草了事話係nobody


會唔會又係眼高手低?
正前傳就係知二個主角第一集係未訓練
所以打戲都交俾obi
呢度

Exactly. Those collection of scenes felt almost cartoon / episodic in a way. Once again, everything was made very easy for Rey.
There was no true struggle or conflicts in this movie. I felt the greatest weakness of TFA was Rey's Mary-Sue experiences (everything works out in her favor), she has no flaws.
TLJ made this even worse. Her connection with Kylo should have had a meaningful impact on her character, but it ultimately lead to nowhere for the sake of "subverted expectations."
Her time as a brief prisoner was pointless as well. She got into a difficult situation, Kylo helped her out, but since he's too weak to ever defeat her, she escapes easily, no biggie. A dumb decision was rewarded with the most powerful Sith's unlucky death. But don't worry, Kylo Ren is still bad, so it wasn't predictable after all. All for the sake of "subverted expectations."
The "big reveal" that her parents "were nobodies" served absolutely no purpose. What exactly was it supposed to accomplish? How did that change her in any way at all? I felt the purpose of that reveal was once again to "subvert expectations."
There comes a point when "Subverting expectations" can absolutely destroy the intended message / narrative / and characters. TLJ took this to the extreme (I can go on and on with examples). Trying way too hard to be unpredictable was my biggest caveat with the movie, but certainly not the only one.

所以啲人成日話得連登仔咁諗喎,Reddit 大把人講緊呢樣嘢啦
2017-12-17 19:51:20

呢度

Exactly. Those collection of scenes felt almost cartoon / episodic in a way. Once again, everything was made very easy for Rey.
There was no true struggle or conflicts in this movie. I felt the greatest weakness of TFA was Rey's Mary-Sue experiences (everything works out in her favor), she has no flaws.
TLJ made this even worse. Her connection with Kylo should have had a meaningful impact on her character, but it ultimately lead to nowhere for the sake of "subverted expectations."
Her time as a brief prisoner was pointless as well. She got into a difficult situation, Kylo helped her out, but since he's too weak to ever defeat her, she escapes easily, no biggie. A dumb decision was rewarded with the most powerful Sith's unlucky death. But don't worry, Kylo Ren is still bad, so it wasn't predictable after all. All for the sake of "subverted expectations."
The "big reveal" that her parents "were nobodies" served absolutely no purpose. What exactly was it supposed to accomplish? How did that change her in any way at all? I felt the purpose of that reveal was once again to "subvert expectations."
There comes a point when "Subverting expectations" can absolutely destroy the intended message / narrative / and characters. TLJ took this to the extreme (I can go on and on with examples). Trying way too hard to be unpredictable was my biggest caveat with the movie, but certainly not the only one.

所以啲人成日話得連登仔咁諗喎,Reddit 大把人講緊呢樣嘢啦[/quote]
成段睇哂....中撚到呢

為扭而扭
2017-12-17 19:52:35

Exactly. Those collection of scenes felt almost cartoon / episodic in a way. Once again, everything was made very easy for Rey.
There was no true struggle or conflicts in this movie. I felt the greatest weakness of TFA was Rey's Mary-Sue experiences (everything works out in her favor), she has no flaws.
TLJ made this even worse. Her connection with Kylo should have had a meaningful impact on her character, but it ultimately lead to nowhere for the sake of "subverted expectations."
Her time as a brief prisoner was pointless as well. She got into a difficult situation, Kylo helped her out, but since he's too weak to ever defeat her, she escapes easily, no biggie. A dumb decision was rewarded with the most powerful Sith's unlucky death. But don't worry, Kylo Ren is still bad, so it wasn't predictable after all. All for the sake of "subverted expectations."
The "big reveal" that her parents "were nobodies" served absolutely no purpose. What exactly was it supposed to accomplish? How did that change her in any way at all? I felt the purpose of that reveal was once again to "subvert expectations."
There comes a point when "Subverting expectations" can absolutely destroy the intended message / narrative / and characters. TLJ took this to the extreme (I can go on and on with examples). Trying way too hard to be unpredictable was my biggest caveat with the movie, but certainly not the only one.

所以啲人成日話得連登仔咁諗喎,Reddit 大把人講緊呢樣嘢啦

成段睇哂....中撚到呢

為扭而扭
2017-12-17 19:55:44

新post記住正皮

2017-12-17 19:56:13
2017-12-17 20:01:10

TLJ was basically to destroy everything about TFA.
Knights of Ren: Nah not important
Who is Snoke and what barring does he have: Not important
Kylo Ren having a mask like Darth Vader: Nah let's drop that
Mystery around Rey's parents: Doesn't matter, they're just junk traders
Building up to seeing the legendary Luke Skywalker: Just toss that shit over your shoulder because it's not worth your time.
So it really shouldn't be surprising that people will love and hate the movie as it is in direct conflict with the last move.


From Reddit

完全唔知今集做咩

最唔中意佢地乜鳩都入死忠數
話死忠唔接受新野 叫死忠返去攬住正傳打飛機
你而家係連上集都唔連戲呀大佬
上集鋪既線全部唔要 今集重新黎過
咁你拍個三部曲黎做乜
不如直接單獨拍一套咪算囉
2017-12-17 20:06:51

Tony咁撚有米都要係被人捉左的情況下整個mark 1出黎都係打敗d二打六炸
之後要係咁實驗,失敗過無數次再加堅定決心先整d勁甲出黎做英雄

Rey經驗過d咩?咁快打敗Ben?

我覺得電影有個位其實Develop 得好啲會好豐富Rey 嘅人設,就係佢同Ben 聯手打龍蝦兵果度,我Expect係Non-stop communication,而唔係三句唔埋兩句又變返Light 同Dark 嘅對決,屌咁一開波著墨咁重講Balance做乜柒

我都覺如果話佢地互相balance
學佢地話齋講grey jedi
好過而家前面瘋狂引導你諗兩個互相轉side/兩個一齊dark or light
但最後都係冇變過 繼續light vs dark
而家咁睇kylo嗰邊個新order仲intriguing過rey條arc
2017-12-17 20:07:11
推爆呢邊先推新post啦
2017-12-17 20:07:47

TLJ was basically to destroy everything about TFA.
Knights of Ren: Nah not important
Who is Snoke and what barring does he have: Not important
Kylo Ren having a mask like Darth Vader: Nah let's drop that
Mystery around Rey's parents: Doesn't matter, they're just junk traders
Building up to seeing the legendary Luke Skywalker: Just toss that shit over your shoulder because it's not worth your time.
So it really shouldn't be surprising that people will love and hate the movie as it is in direct conflict with the last move.


From Reddit

完全唔知今集做咩

最唔中意佢地乜鳩都入死忠數
話死忠唔接受新野 叫死忠返去攬住正傳打飛機
你而家係連上集都唔連戲呀大佬
上集鋪既線全部唔要 今集重新黎過
咁你拍個三部曲黎做乜
不如直接單獨拍一套咪算囉

咪係囉,都唔明同一間公司點解Marvel 做得咁好幾乎無Bug而SW咁樣
唔通真係Feige 大神嘅力量
2017-12-17 20:09:27

Tony咁撚有米都要係被人捉左的情況下整個mark 1出黎都係打敗d二打六炸
之後要係咁實驗,失敗過無數次再加堅定決心先整d勁甲出黎做英雄

Rey經驗過d咩?咁快打敗Ben?

我覺得電影有個位其實Develop 得好啲會好豐富Rey 嘅人設,就係佢同Ben 聯手打龍蝦兵果度,我Expect係Non-stop communication,而唔係三句唔埋兩句又變返Light 同Dark 嘅對決,屌咁一開波著墨咁重講Balance做乜柒

我都覺如果話佢地互相balance
學佢地話齋講grey jedi
好過而家前面瘋狂引導你諗兩個互相轉side/兩個一齊dark or light
但最後都係冇變過 繼續light vs dark
而家咁睇kylo嗰邊個新order仲intriguing過rey條arc

咪係囉,如果要我睇EP9我真係只係想入場睇Ben,Rey 依家真係WFC
反正到最後佢都係內定冠軍嫁啦
2017-12-17 20:11:06

新post記住正皮

2017-12-17 20:11:16
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