測量(GP, BS, QS)討論區

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2017-01-08 13:24:03
SmartW 巴打 可唔可以講下你做project officer 負責d咩多? maintenance 方面夠training ? 另外想問下你之前個間developer or 一般developer chartered 後 幾高人工? C+3,C+5 大概又幾高人工?
2017-01-08 14:35:04
今年qs passing rate 咁低
我都唔知係consultant做落去有無意思
2017-01-08 15:05:02
考ap考到當然叻仔,但相應泥講,市場上根本offer 唔到有咁多有ap人工既職位。結果你考到ap之後好長一段時間都會係做番普通一個bs.

以呢幾年apc放水既程度同高登仔不停吹捧之下,大量cem畢業生同property management學生既湧入之下, bs既數量係會大增。

本身大既則樓前幾年將重心放係大陸,留番唔少有趣d學到野既project eg a&a 甚至大樓俾bs firm做,但大陸仆街之後,大部份bs consultant都得番conditional survey, mwis,mbis呢d低技術含量既job做。

自已開到公司咁當然另計,接一大推bd job跟住叫下屬跟,錢一定唔會少。

但打工泥講,qs 既出路明顯比較多,志向大既巴打英文又ok係積累一定經驗後可以專做claim,轉行做埋律師既絕對不在少數。


如果你考AP就係做「拎AP人工」既職位,而呢種職位係講緊簽則做老細個level拎緊既人工,你既夢想註定幻滅。

情況就好似天真到你諗入到QS讀埋個LLB PCLL做Bar 又或者做claims consultant 賺大錢既係成行入面「絕對不在少數」

有AP可以secure既只係你加薪/跳槽會有好啲既offer。

明明QS對比BS黎講,相對多「外行」人爭飯碗既,一定係QS

你講QS出路闊啲,我其實係認同的。BS行頭係好窄,呢個係入行一定要預左。始終QSD會員都多BS成倍嫁,都未計non-professional grade 既practitioners.

我諗做得BS 都知個Market 係點分配,我諗無人天真到想BS可以同Architect係個行業平分秋色。我身為一個做developer出身既BS,有A&A我都唔會1st priority搵BS firm做consultant。但係你要記住,architect engineer BS 一開始target既market 都已經唔同,其實無得比較。而且BS入政府做既人數比例係高過其他profession(even 比起QS) 好多,命題一開始就話ignore 呢條career path, 係唔係太公平,記住,大家target既野一開始已經唔同

我自己建議,揀邊個stream, 真係睇你自己既興趣/專長/性格 最緊要。BS/QS 係好大分別。唔好相信「尾水論」/「charter人工有幾多」/ 「邊行相對易成功」, etc

你係有料既有talent係BS呢方面既,入得岩BS呢行,實會搵到2餐飯食。同樣地你有興趣係QS有passion 係QS既,入QS呢行都會易啲出人頭地。每一行都有ups and downs, 而家唔會係最好,亦唔會係最差。

我既回應係針對一d新手巴打想係BS同QS兩條路之間選擇,咁我assume佢地就興趣而言,冇話對邊條路有咩特別喜愛,因為假設佢地已經對其中一種野好有興趣同passion,其他討論已經唔太重要。
近年可以係developer出身既我諗得番swire programme,假設巴打你係swire起步起步已經赢人一大節,可以接觸到既project同training已經唔係普通consultant可以比。新入行既如果入唔到政府graduate而做consulatnt既我諗佔大多數.呢班人正如我上文所講係consultant可以話係無限做survey,mbis.

十分認同冇bs會以為自已可以同archi爭,但個問題係,新入行既人做consulatnt呢年連做下單a&a都冇咩機會,間中一單半單。泥緊呢幾年情況個人認為都不容樂觀。

至於qs,多外行人十分認同,我亦都冇想特別吹捧,但事實上qs出路較闊,多公司請,即使多外行人市場都一樣食到。bs再咁多人入,市場根本食唔到。

做上去做claim既人or 讀pcll上既人真係唔少,當然要付出多幾倍既努力,所以我上文都提到呢條路只適合志向大英文又好既人。

假設大家付出相同努力,時間,以打工仔既身份泥講,個人認為qs可以去到既高度比bs高。

至於點解bs咁多人狗衝政府(bs政府人工好似5萬幾),好明顯係因為私人市場認為bs唔值呢個價。至於未chartered既更加唔使講。

QS做政府既相對BS少,係因為市場上覺得qs值錢,就算未charter, 做contractor人工都唔會差。

以上為個人意見。[/quote]

好多人以為developer 就係得swire個trainee program, 其實Swire 個個都係做MO 為主 (property management). 我就係間developer做project officer 出身,都係一條出路

其實唔係淨係BS先9衝政府,政府請QS/Architect/Engineer位都大把人9衝。「好明顯係因為私人市場認為bs唔值呢個價」係唔岩得晒。主要原因係因為呢啲政府位,最低要求既係C+1 , 但請QS/Architect/Engineer 係好少請C+1 既人,好多時係可能C+10 先入到去。但BS 呢,其實例如係BD做,私人公司既經驗係無乜大幫助的。變相其實主要睇你interview 表現請你,為數可能好多人C+1 / C+2/ C+3 就入到。當然位相對多亦有關。你話private sector C+3 值唔值BS60K呢,係唔值既。但
QS/Architect/Engineer 如果C+10黎講,值唔值$60K? 好多時唔好話60K, 隨時多過60K tim,所以呢幾行人投身政府既誘因係大減

仲未計政府升職係排隊爭櫈仔,你年紀輕就入去,係基本上肯定有得升[/quote]

多謝兩位巴打詳細解答
大至上理解兩個stream嘅career path 但係點解BS好似冇乜點請人咁嘅?
同埋我想問下兩個stream係咪都好少會有去外地工作嘅機會?
2017-01-08 15:06:21
究竟gp係咪真係咁非主流


有冇GP巴打講下GP career path?
2017-01-08 15:50:23
今年qs passing rate 咁低
我都唔知係consultant做落去有無意思


Part 2?
2017-01-08 15:51:13
究竟gp係咪真係咁非主流


有冇GP巴打講下GP career path?


想知+1
2017-01-08 17:45:45
lm
2017-01-08 19:10:32
Push
2017-01-08 19:29:04
BS Final Year LM
2017-01-08 20:09:55
Qs asso year2 留名
Fyp做到想死
2017-01-09 00:46:25
PUSH
2017-01-09 01:17:14
BSG揮手
2017-01-09 01:29:47
追左post想問下出路問題
小弟qs asso year2 想讀個degree考牌
應該cem/Thei/poly part time/出黎做野好
見前面有巴打讚完半年ucem 唔對路quit
好驚揀錯路
麻煩曬咁多位巴打
2017-01-09 08:42:17
究竟gp係咪真係咁非主流


有冇GP巴打講下GP career path?


想知+1


GP 留名 問深入啲啦

利伸 未考牌
2017-01-09 08:50:37


本人黎緊qs grad 我想請教下師兄如果我將來想做個claims QS, grad左入consultant firm或者contractor會唔會話影響我將來入claims consultant既機會?


No. You need those experience before you can do claims. I am a CQS and barrister major in construction dispute.


好奇一問,巴打依家喺pupil?


Of course. I am an old man, I fully qualified in both profession.
2017-01-09 08:55:04


本人黎緊qs grad 我想請教下師兄如果我將來想做個claims QS, grad左入consultant firm或者contractor會唔會話影響我將來入claims consultant既機會?


No. You need those experience before you can do claims. I am a CQS and barrister major in construction dispute.


師兄,可唔可以講多啲claim consultant 嘅行情同career path。

QS有牌後一定要再讀LLB/LLM ?


Studying for further qualification is beneficial but not a must. A LLB is better than a LLM. In claims consultant if you are chartered you can be a senior consultant then managing consultant, thereafter associate director, director, managing director and chairman. On the other hand if you have networking you can start your own firm. I worked as RSS for a long time then now principally dealing with arbitration and litigation.
2017-01-09 08:57:43
今年qs passing rate 咁低
我都唔知係consultant做落去有無意思


The passing rates for both RICS and HKIS are about the same and quite constant. It is the quality of the answers that makes the rates looked to be low.
2017-01-09 09:00:12


No. You need those experience before you can do claims. I am a CQS and barrister major in construction dispute.


好奇一問,巴打依家喺pupil?


Of course. I am an old man, I fully qualified in both profession.


My apologies. I missed the "not" after "course" in the above reply.
2017-01-09 09:15:44


好奇一問,巴打依家喺pupil?


Of course. I am an old man, I fully qualified in both profession.


My apologies. I missed the "not" after "course" in the above reply.


Can you tell us more about the career path as a barrister specialised in construction like yourself?
2017-01-09 09:24:43


Of course. I am an old man, I fully qualified in both profession.


My apologies. I missed the "not" after "course" in the above reply.


Can you tell us more about the career path as a barrister specialised in construction like yourself?


After obtaining your qualification you can either go into claim consultant which I have described above or practice as a barrister. Private practice as a barrister is quite hard as initially you will not have a lot of clients and rent for chambers are high. Luckily you are allowed to do your original claim consultant work to subsidise your income. For stable income better to find a job rather than private practice.
2017-01-09 10:17:42
做左3年組驗qs,拎住high dip
如果轉出去mc可以嗌到幾高?

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2017-01-09 10:21:27
bs仔lm
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rics多唔多公司睇
2017-01-09 10:28:51

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2017-01-09 10:29:48

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