連登巫師:昆特牌 公測討論區 (2)

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2017-06-28 03:42:28
好撚黑 打咩deck都預到比人剋死既對手

我都係,下下輸coinflip, 對方每次都抽到counter 而自己每次都冇counter

真係唔明CDPR夠膽話coinflip 冇咩大影響

'Coin flip isn't as big a deal as the community make it out to be, but there are several ways it can be approached - though all have downsides.'

所有嘢都有downsides,但都唔會downside得過而家
最低限度佢都可以coinflip完先換牌,先手多一次換牌
或者場上放一隻會封頂嘅累進unit 俾先手
先後手嘅唔公平最終都要處理

我真係想睇下top 1000mmr 先後手嘅勝率係會有幾咁唔合理

除左Foltest應該副副牌都係後手著數D
得Foltest無論點都係出Leader先

Foltest tempo極慢,又太需要贏round 1, 先手好難玩

問題係Foltest 第一張點都係Leader先架啦
唔似其他deck出Unit會俾人搞 / 空場出Spell

先後手個唔公平唔只係後手可以選擇點回應對手,
再大問題係唔理R1個局勢有幾惡劣, 後手永遠都可以選擇+1CA去輸,
而先手只要到你出牌你追唔到個點數,你就要-2CA先可以贏, 或者係+-0CA去輸,
2017-06-28 03:43:11
好撚黑 打咩deck都預到比人剋死既對手

我都係,下下輸coinflip, 對方每次都抽到counter 而自己每次都冇counter

真係唔明CDPR夠膽話coinflip 冇咩大影響

'Coin flip isn't as big a deal as the community make it out to be, but there are several ways it can be approached - though all have downsides.'

所有嘢都有downsides,但都唔會downside得過而家
最低限度佢都可以coinflip完先換牌,先手多一次換牌
或者場上放一隻會封頂嘅累進unit 俾先手
先後手嘅唔公平最終都要處理

我真係想睇下top 1000mmr 先後手嘅勝率係會有幾咁唔合理

除左Foltest應該副副牌都係後手著數D
得Foltest無論點都係出Leader先

Foltest tempo極慢,又太需要贏round 1, 先手好難玩

問題係Foltest 第一張點都係Leader先架啦
唔似其他deck出Unit會俾人搞 / 空場出Spell

先後手個唔公平唔只係後手可以選擇點回應對手,
最大問題係唔理R1個局勢有幾惡劣, 後手永遠都可以選擇+1CA去輸,
而先手只要到你出牌你追唔到個點數,你就要-2CA先可以贏, 或者係+-0CA去輸,
2017-06-28 05:08:35
但先手多一張卡好似又唔係咁合理
定先手完場計mmr著數啲?
2017-06-28 16:30:21
但先手多一張卡好似又唔係咁合理
定先手完場計mmr著數啲?

最正路係類似圍棋讓子,但gwent round 1個長度唔係固定,所以讓子個點數應該係累進,
類似monster隻Ancient Foglet,先手場上有隻unit每turn加1點
隻unit係唔係金,起點係幾多,頂點係幾多呢d全部都要通過實踐去試,
但點都會好過而家乜都唔做
2017-06-29 15:08:41
尋日輸咗鋪俾buff spell st,
佢Adrenaline Rush咗隻unit, 我落銀卡lock, 佢再Adrenaline Rush, 我就decoy 再lock,
但原來lock 係解唔到隻已經lock咗嘅Resilience unit, 佢只會unlock個lock, 繼續係Resilience
2017-06-29 18:22:59
尋日輸咗鋪俾buff spell st,
佢Adrenaline Rush咗隻unit, 我落銀卡lock, 佢再Adrenaline Rush, 我就decoy 再lock,
但原來lock 係解唔到隻已經lock咗嘅Resilience unit, 佢只會unlock個lock, 繼續係Resilience

好多人都中過伏
2017-06-29 18:30:15
尋日輸咗鋪俾buff spell st,
佢Adrenaline Rush咗隻unit, 我落銀卡lock, 佢再Adrenaline Rush, 我就decoy 再lock,
但原來lock 係解唔到隻已經lock咗嘅Resilience unit, 佢只會unlock個lock, 繼續係Resilience

無Reset power?

冇呀,嗰鋪用緊sk, 張lock係donar
2017-06-29 18:39:12
尋日輸咗鋪俾buff spell st,
佢Adrenaline Rush咗隻unit, 我落銀卡lock, 佢再Adrenaline Rush, 我就decoy 再lock,
但原來lock 係解唔到隻已經lock咗嘅Resilience unit, 佢只會unlock個lock, 繼續係Resilience

好多人都中過伏

平時用monster多,佢搞咁多嘢都係俾我succ, fiend, btm, regis
嗰鋪如果知第2下解唔到lock我可以decoy spy拎CA, 有得贏
2017-06-29 19:41:35
唔好咁啦人地玩buff都好過玩weather ST架喇
buff太多野剋倒佢
2017-06-29 20:21:22
唔好咁啦人地玩buff都好過玩weather ST架喇
buff太多野剋倒佢

weather ST雖然弱左
但都係咁黑人憎
2017-06-29 20:24:15
唔好咁啦人地玩buff都好過玩weather ST架喇
buff太多野剋倒佢

其實仲無腦過傳統spell st,都係一d搏你冇解嘅deck,
開局witchers, 其他全部牌都係potion,
Round2 dbp, 繼續potion, 之後就Adrenaline Rush
對手有解就輸,冇解就贏,唔使諗任何嘢
2017-06-29 20:25:26
唔好咁啦人地玩buff都好過玩weather ST架喇
buff太多野剋倒佢

weather ST雖然弱左
但都係咁黑人憎

fun and interactive
2017-06-29 21:10:19
唔好咁啦人地玩buff都好過玩weather ST架喇
buff太多野剋倒佢

其實仲無腦過傳統spell st,都係一d搏你冇解嘅deck,
開局witchers, 其他全部牌都係potion,
Round2 dbp, 繼續potion, 之後就Adrenaline Rush
對手有解就輸,冇解就贏,唔使諗任何嘢

傳統Spell ST都算無腦咩?
少Unit又俾Regis同Igni剋
計埋Leader 金卡先得7隻企場
成日要計傷點放Weather
配Scorch / Epidemic清場
好多時要計埋幾個回合之後既情況喎
最多係煩啫 唔係好覺無腦

反而打SK次次都咁上下套路
打都打到悶
2017-06-29 21:30:10
唔好咁啦人地玩buff都好過玩weather ST架喇
buff太多野剋倒佢

其實仲無腦過傳統spell st,都係一d搏你冇解嘅deck,
開局witchers, 其他全部牌都係potion,
Round2 dbp, 繼續potion, 之後就Adrenaline Rush
對手有解就輸,冇解就贏,唔使諗任何嘢

你咁講大部份deck都係冇腦架啦
2017-06-29 22:45:35
唔好咁啦人地玩buff都好過玩weather ST架喇
buff太多野剋倒佢

其實仲無腦過傳統spell st,都係一d搏你冇解嘅deck,
開局witchers, 其他全部牌都係potion,
Round2 dbp, 繼續potion, 之後就Adrenaline Rush
對手有解就輸,冇解就贏,唔使諗任何嘢

你咁講大部份deck都係冇腦架啦

呢副喎

而家主流嗰幾副T1 deck都唔係冇腦deck, 玩家實力勁定渣會爭好遠
但呢副個個拎上手都係咁玩, 技術門檻好低
2017-06-30 00:09:28
唔好咁啦人地玩buff都好過玩weather ST架喇
buff太多野剋倒佢

其實仲無腦過傳統spell st,都係一d搏你冇解嘅deck,
開局witchers, 其他全部牌都係potion,
Round2 dbp, 繼續potion, 之後就Adrenaline Rush
對手有解就輸,冇解就贏,唔使諗任何嘢

你咁講大部份deck都係冇腦架啦

呢副喎

而家主流嗰幾副T1 deck都唔係冇腦deck, 玩家實力勁定渣會爭好遠
但呢副個個拎上手都係咁玩, 技術門檻好低

swim套letho先係buff deck極致
2017-06-30 03:27:06
唔好咁啦人地玩buff都好過玩weather ST架喇
buff太多野剋倒佢

其實仲無腦過傳統spell st,都係一d搏你冇解嘅deck,
開局witchers, 其他全部牌都係potion,
Round2 dbp, 繼續potion, 之後就Adrenaline Rush
對手有解就輸,冇解就贏,唔使諗任何嘢

你咁講大部份deck都係冇腦架啦

呢副喎

而家主流嗰幾副T1 deck都唔係冇腦deck, 玩家實力勁定渣會爭好遠
但呢副個個拎上手都係咁玩, 技術門檻好低

swim套letho先係buff deck極致

單機玩嘅deck, -9CA , 100+ gold carryover
佢之前副spell NG都令到隻Enforcers要改
2017-06-30 07:41:48
幾時改版,呢個版本得番一個國家
2017-06-30 09:32:08
幾時改版,呢個版本得番一個國家

dev stream monday
2017-06-30 15:44:49
有冇人ON唔到?
2017-06-30 16:26:52
幾時改版,呢個版本得番一個國家

呢排反而少咗見sk,見最多consume dagon,
不過sk都一定要nerf,尤其Shieldmaiden, bear, Hjalmar, 至少要nerf佢地1,2隻
同埋隻harpy都未nerf夠,要nerf佢d蛋,consume buff完已經成型,一隻harpy 可以去到22value,
仲未計每食一次nekker額外+3,nekker round2尾至round3好多時都代表緊差唔多30value
2017-07-01 13:26:51
垃圾GAME唔知咩事係咁早BUG
一到3RD ROUND就定左我個畫面
即係2ND ROUND完左計分個畫面一直定到完場
但場GAME係一直進行緊 正係聽到聲
已經唔知因為咁樣輸左幾多場RANK
2017-07-01 13:27:03
垃圾GAME唔知咩事係咁中BUG
一到3RD ROUND就定左我個畫面
即係2ND ROUND完左計分個畫面一直定到完場
但場GAME係一直進行緊 正係聽到聲
已經唔知因為咁樣輸左幾多場RANK
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