[廢文] [理性討論] 有咩方法可以令多啲人用linux？

你既理由等同細路仔既理由 ?

我就當依家學校係教佢地用linux，但係你要明白大多數細路仔都鍾意打機，而當佢地有呢個需要嘅時候都係會裝返windows㗎啦，咁你覺得佢地久而久之仲會唔會無啦啦轉返用linux？

學校教佢地用 linux 同 返屋企打機 有咩關係 ?

關係在於就算一開始係學用linux，之後都會畀windows所吸引，到最後都只會用windows而棄用linux。

你都係講唔出有咩關係
你點肯定之後一定會比 windows 所吸引 ?
又點解比 windows 所吸引就一定而棄用 linux ?

有邊個細路唔打機
linux玩到即係windows玩到
而大部份lwindows玩到但linux唔support
細路會唔識揀？

點解細路一定要打機 ?

打機既細路多定唔打既多
講緊依家2017年

打 android / ios game 既細佬多定 windows game 既細佬多
講緊而家 2017年

上面討論重點係細路打機揀linux定windows
你不如拉埋console game講埋一份
大把細路屋企有ps4 xb1

大把又有幾大把 ?
多得過我返工途中經過一間小學放學既時間，個個離開學校轉頭拎部電話出黎篤 ?
我 100% 肯定多過你所講既 ps4, xb1
連大人老人都玩 android / ios game
根據你地平時講既市場論，小朋友冇理由揀 windows game
錢本身係負擔，要屋企比錢買唔容易，但屋企比出部普通 android 電話比小朋友，自己去 play store 就大把 game 唔洗錢 download 玩

我就冇實質數據,當你講得有道理,大把細路玩android / ios game
但現實係pc gamer主流群眾都一定係windows果邊
依個我100%肯定

提出細路打機又係你地，鬥多 game 又係你地
轉頭話呢 D 野唔關事又係你地
點解主流一定係 windows ?

因為提出一樣野你就拉埋d九唔答八既野入去
你自問你有邊次係直直接接答撚到人架
最後仲要問一句點解主流一定係windows真係笑撚死人
除非你同我講玩pc game而用linux既人會多過用windows啦

點樣九唔搭八法 ?
你都冇直接答我野 ?
多等於主流 ?
主流唔可以推翻 ?

一開始講緊細路打機會揀linux定windows
你講講下就講左細路一定要打機?
之後又講到去細路打android/ios game
咪撚以為個post推得快就冇人記得最原本條問題啦
估你下個回覆都係答唔到條問題
"細路打機會揀linux定windows?"

同埋多等於主流?你條問題係咩一回事,你老豆老母同你溝通係咪一樣咁辛苦

咁乜野叫做主流先 ?
你點定義一野係咪主流 ?
主流由邊個定出黎 ?
其他好似係你地唔知原本條問題係咩
原本條問題唔係「細路打機會揀linux定windows」

大多數人咁做咪叫主流
洗唔洗教你查埋字典
係咪小眾仲可以話自己先係主流？
仲問邊個定出黎

點解 多 = 主流 ?
點解 一定要跟主流 ?

全世界用MS Office
你用LibreOffice做公司野
其他人一開個file 啲野tun曬位
之後老細屌你做乜唔用返MS Office
你同佢講 我唔跟主流的 你唔跟我用LibreOffice係你地嘅錯

有時唔輪到你揀跟唔跟

我就係返工用 linux + libreoffice 做文書，而同事係唔會有問題
黃金電腦商場最少有2間舖係用 openoffice 開單

I just wanna say: Guys this post is really awesome.
Despute the dotfight debate around Mr. A, which I agree is not making much point and not constructive at all. I do like the other comments.

I do personally would like to see a day that linux/UNIX on every destop computer, but i know it is impossible to make this happen by blaming microsoft's monopoly that started decades ago. We can't deny that. Given the fact the linux user are mainly advance computer user and programmer, I don't see the point of endless blaming and begging. I do think it is up to us to make it happen.

你既理由等同細路仔既理由 ?

我就當依家學校係教佢地用linux，但係你要明白大多數細路仔都鍾意打機，而當佢地有呢個需要嘅時候都係會裝返windows㗎啦，咁你覺得佢地久而久之仲會唔會無啦啦轉返用linux？

學校教佢地用 linux 同 返屋企打機 有咩關係 ?

關係在於就算一開始係學用linux，之後都會畀windows所吸引，到最後都只會用windows而棄用linux。

你都係講唔出有咩關係
你點肯定之後一定會比 windows 所吸引 ?
又點解比 windows 所吸引就一定而棄用 linux ?

有邊個細路唔打機
linux玩到即係windows玩到
而大部份lwindows玩到但linux唔support
細路會唔識揀？

點解細路一定要打機 ?

打機既細路多定唔打既多
講緊依家2017年

打 android / ios game 既細佬多定 windows game 既細佬多
講緊而家 2017年

上面討論重點係細路打機揀linux定windows
你不如拉埋console game講埋一份
大把細路屋企有ps4 xb1

大把又有幾大把 ?
多得過我返工途中經過一間小學放學既時間，個個離開學校轉頭拎部電話出黎篤 ?
我 100% 肯定多過你所講既 ps4, xb1
連大人老人都玩 android / ios game
根據你地平時講既市場論，小朋友冇理由揀 windows game
錢本身係負擔，要屋企比錢買唔容易，但屋企比出部普通 android 電話比小朋友，自己去 play store 就大把 game 唔洗錢 download 玩

我就冇實質數據,當你講得有道理,大把細路玩android / ios game
但現實係pc gamer主流群眾都一定係windows果邊
依個我100%肯定

提出細路打機又係你地，鬥多 game 又係你地
轉頭話呢 D 野唔關事又係你地
點解主流一定係 windows ?

因為提出一樣野你就拉埋d九唔答八既野入去
你自問你有邊次係直直接接答撚到人架
最後仲要問一句點解主流一定係windows真係笑撚死人
除非你同我講玩pc game而用linux既人會多過用windows啦

點樣九唔搭八法 ?
你都冇直接答我野 ?
多等於主流 ?
主流唔可以推翻 ?

一開始講緊細路打機會揀linux定windows
你講講下就講左細路一定要打機?
之後又講到去細路打android/ios game
咪撚以為個post推得快就冇人記得最原本條問題啦
估你下個回覆都係答唔到條問題
"細路打機會揀linux定windows?"

同埋多等於主流?你條問題係咩一回事,你老豆老母同你溝通係咪一樣咁辛苦

咁乜野叫做主流先 ?
你點定義一野係咪主流 ?
主流由邊個定出黎 ?
其他好似係你地唔知原本條問題係咩
原本條問題唔係「細路打機會揀linux定windows」

大多數人咁做咪叫主流
洗唔洗教你查埋字典
係咪小眾仲可以話自己先係主流？
仲問邊個定出黎

點解 多 = 主流 ?
點解 一定要跟主流 ?

全世界用MS Office
你用LibreOffice做公司野
其他人一開個file 啲野tun曬位
之後老細屌你做乜唔用返MS Office
你同佢講 我唔跟主流的 你唔跟我用LibreOffice係你地嘅錯

有時唔輪到你揀跟唔跟

我就係返工用 linux + libreoffice 做文書，而同事係唔會有問題
黃金電腦商場最少有2間舖係用 openoffice 開單

你冇問題≠全部人都冇問題

[quote]
2. 睇多次紅字, 我有用過, 一來真係唔慣, 二來周圍有九成嘅電腦都係行MS Office, 你想轉都轉唔到; btw公司電腦因保安理由, 冇internet connection, usb都讀唔到, 外來程式都run唔到, 只有MS Office用
4. 見(2.)
5. 因為個client舊到仆街 你出錢出力去開發? 我成班fd都係用開佢 冇得轉 重有唔好話developer唔整跨平台係佢嘅錯 因為隻client主要for PC(windows) game用 佢target係windows 唔需要做跨平台 不過我同啲fd攞埋黎做virtual LAN玩LF2咁解
6. 有啲係舊game 有其中一隻有出Linux版 但bug到仆街 重有就係如果windows都打到嘅機 我平時又用開windows(因為重有其他野要用windows做) 點解要突登裝Linux玩呢隻game? 又唔係Linux-exclusive 得閒冇野做想打機就要重新開機之後入dualboot個Linux? 根本不切實際
7. 呢個我都廢事詳答 你寫信去Apple叫佢整個官方Linux版 睇下佢地睬唔睬你
8. 你意思係叫我用第二隻程式(eg GIMP)之後重新學過? 太得閒冇野做嘅話 我可能會考慮下嘅 唔係個個好似係咁多時間 同埋我用PS/AI唔會係用自己部電腦 根本唔輪到我揀用咩程式 嗰部電腦得PS/AI

2. 有咩工具係天生識用 ? 如果你用緊個人身份識定職員身身份講 ?
5. 咁個 vlan 本身洗唔洗錢 ? 如果唔洗，而你有用，都可以回饋比開發者等佢開發 linux 版
6. 如果不切實際係理由既話，我可話打機本身都係不切實際
7. 隔黎 post 有人因為 apple 用緊中國 cert email apple 要求 apple 停用中國 cert 驚比人 mitm apple 未有回應，但依然努力緊，你認為唔值得野你可以唔做
8. 唔輪到你揀，而你選擇放棄揀選，其實你係唔需要討論

2. 我從來冇話我天生識用MS Office 咪再攞呢樣野黎做論點 我講嘅係我有嘗試過去用LibreOffice 用咗好多時間都做唔到我想做嘅效果 我又冇無限時間慢慢摸到熟曬 所以我都係用返MS Office算
5. vlan唔洗錢 好似n年冇再update過 開發者亦唔知點reach到佢 再講多次 係個好舊嘅program黎
6. 你覺得打機不切實際可以選擇唔打, 我作為一個end user, 覺得setup完一大輪野先有得打機(重要唔知有冇問題), 我都可以選擇唔咁做而直接用返windows, setup野同打機兩者冇衝突
7. 所以我冇做 用返win/mac嘅itunes算
8. 唔輪到我揀, 我根本冇得揀, 何來放棄揀選?

結論: 你知唔知你講緊乜

I just wanna say: Guys this post is really awesome.
Despute the dotfight debate around Mr. A, which I agree is not making much point and not constructive at all. I do like the other comments.

I do personally would like to see a day that linux/UNIX on every destop computer, but i know it is impossible to make this happen by blaming microsoft's monopoly that started decades ago. We can't deny that. Given the fact the linux user are mainly advance computer user and programmer, I don't see the point of endless blaming and begging. I do think it is up to us to make it happen.

#574太長我唔覆啦 quote唔到 但我有睇曬
我都希望有日Linux可以做到主流之一
真係好唔鍾意win10
有日我部win8.1死咗之後我真係唔知點算
但係為咗打機同其他冇咁重要嘅野 冇得唔繼續用windows

I just wanna say: Guys this post is really awesome.
Despute the dotfight debate around Mr. A, which I agree is not making much point and not constructive at all. I do like the other comments.

I do personally would like to see a day that linux/UNIX on every destop computer, but i know it is impossible to make this happen by blaming microsoft's monopoly that started decades ago. We can't deny that. Given the fact the linux user are mainly advance computer user and programmer, I don't see the point of endless blaming and begging. I do think it is up to us to make it happen.

#574太長我唔覆啦 quote唔到 但我有睇曬
我都希望有日Linux可以做到主流之一
真係好唔鍾意win10
有日我部win8.1死咗之後我真係唔知點算
但係為咗打機同其他冇咁重要嘅野 冇得唔繼續用windows

我自己覺得打機係有機會用wine解決到既（將來）
現時wine既困難應該係在於啲用.net framework同 directX既game炒粉（當然要解決難度唔低）

但如果wine解到其他野（例如安裝好麻煩）應該好易解決
例如喺macos
我慣左打command就用 wine
用gui都有playonmac可以用

I just wanna say: Guys this post is really awesome.
Despute the dotfight debate around Mr. A, which I agree is not making much point and not constructive at all. I do like the other comments.

I do personally would like to see a day that linux/UNIX on every destop computer, but i know it is impossible to make this happen by blaming microsoft's monopoly that started decades ago. We can't deny that. Given the fact the linux user are mainly advance computer user and programmer, I don't see the point of endless blaming and begging. I do think it is up to us to make it happen.

#574太長我唔覆啦 quote唔到 但我有睇曬
我都希望有日Linux可以做到主流之一
真係好唔鍾意win10
有日我部win8.1死咗之後我真係唔知點算
但係為咗打機同其他冇咁重要嘅野 冇得唔繼續用windows

我自己覺得打機係有機會用wine解決到既（將來）
現時wine既困難應該係在於啲用.net framework同 directX既game炒粉（當然要解決難度唔低）

但如果wine解到其他野（例如安裝好麻煩）應該好易解決
例如喺macos
我慣左打command就用 wine
用gui都有playonmac可以用

見過有fd用playonmac玩到我玩嘅其中一隻game
playonmac
但係mac要做到windows打機嘅gaming experience(畫質/流暢)
要買到好貴 15fps真係見到都唔想玩
開到啲畫質勁差先玩到 不如揾返windows

I just wanna say: Guys this post is really awesome.
Despute the dotfight debate around Mr. A, which I agree is not making much point and not constructive at all. I do like the other comments.

I do personally would like to see a day that linux/UNIX on every destop computer, but i know it is impossible to make this happen by blaming microsoft's monopoly that started decades ago. We can't deny that. Given the fact the linux user are mainly advance computer user and programmer, I don't see the point of endless blaming and begging. I do think it is up to us to make it happen.

#574太長我唔覆啦 quote唔到 但我有睇曬
我都希望有日Linux可以做到主流之一
真係好唔鍾意win10
有日我部win8.1死咗之後我真係唔知點算
但係為咗打機同其他冇咁重要嘅野 冇得唔繼續用windows

我自己覺得打機係有機會用wine解決到既（將來）
現時wine既困難應該係在於啲用.net framework同 directX既game炒粉（當然要解決難度唔低）

但如果wine解到其他野（例如安裝好麻煩）應該好易解決
例如喺macos
我慣左打command就用 wine
用gui都有playonmac可以用

見過有fd用playonmac玩到我玩嘅其中一隻game
playonmac
但係mac要做到windows打機嘅gaming experience(畫質/流暢)
要買到好貴 15fps真係見到都唔想玩
開到啲畫質勁差先玩到 不如揾返windows

點睇external GPU
例如 Razer Core

ok 我得出結論
以後問乜都直接答 點解唔用linux

I just wanna say: Guys this post is really awesome.
Despute the dotfight debate around Mr. A, which I agree is not making much point and not constructive at all. I do like the other comments.

I do personally would like to see a day that linux/UNIX on every destop computer, but i know it is impossible to make this happen by blaming microsoft's monopoly that started decades ago. We can't deny that. Given the fact the linux user are mainly advance computer user and programmer, I don't see the point of endless blaming and begging. I do think it is up to us to make it happen.

#574太長我唔覆啦 quote唔到 但我有睇曬
我都希望有日Linux可以做到主流之一
真係好唔鍾意win10
有日我部win8.1死咗之後我真係唔知點算
但係為咗打機同其他冇咁重要嘅野 冇得唔繼續用windows

我自己覺得打機係有機會用wine解決到既（將來）
現時wine既困難應該係在於啲用.net framework同 directX既game炒粉（當然要解決難度唔低）

但如果wine解到其他野（例如安裝好麻煩）應該好易解決
例如喺macos
我慣左打command就用 wine
用gui都有playonmac可以用

見過有fd用playonmac玩到我玩嘅其中一隻game
playonmac
但係mac要做到windows打機嘅gaming experience(畫質/流暢)
要買到好貴 15fps真係見到都唔想玩
開到啲畫質勁差先玩到 不如揾返windows

點睇external GPU
例如 Razer Core

冇意見因為冇錢買 有錢的話可以試下
之前都冇諗住入部mac
一直諗住Win+virtual Linux都夠我用
但係windows10逼你upgrade嗰排真係頂唔順
用過windows10兩星期 每日都想打爆部機
之後決定重裝win8.1加埋以後唔再用win10
裝完win8.1 裝完windows update啲patch 再del返逼你升win10嗰個patch之後熄咗個windows update 有需要先手動update 但覺得太麻煩
於是轉會用mac算

其實我都未有錢買
不過因為我會玩CUDA
所以external gpu可能係個比較合適同反而平啲既solution

原來理性討論係標籤同人身攻擊

等緊你覆呀

覆 D 乜野 ?
我都等緊話我知 破壞氣氛 係咪係於 唔理性 ?

我無話你破壞氣氛
其他人既野你問返其他人
請你正面回應我由#1 問既問題
如果下下你耍兩句扮唔知問乜我咪好撚唔得閒？

MrA快啲答我啦 等緊你答

1. 冇意見
2. google docs, libreoffice
3. 冇意見
4. 點解要用 msoffice ?
5. 點解冇跨平台開發 ?
6. 點解冇跨平台開發 ?
7. 點解冇跨平台開發 ?
8. 點解只可以用 photoshop/illustrator ?

2. 睇多次紅字, 我有用過, 一來真係唔慣, 二來周圍有九成嘅電腦都係行MS Office, 你想轉都轉唔到; btw公司電腦因保安理由, 冇internet connection, usb都讀唔到, 外來程式都run唔到, 只有MS Office用
4. 見(2.)
5. 因為個client舊到仆街 你出錢出力去開發? 我成班fd都係用開佢 冇得轉 重有唔好話developer唔整跨平台係佢嘅錯 因為隻client主要for PC(windows) game用 佢target係windows 唔需要做跨平台 不過我同啲fd攞埋黎做virtual LAN玩LF2咁解
6. 有啲係舊game 有其中一隻有出Linux版 但bug到仆街 重有就係如果windows都打到嘅機 我平時又用開windows(因為重有其他野要用windows做) 點解要突登裝Linux玩呢隻game? 又唔係Linux-exclusive 得閒冇野做想打機就要重新開機之後入dualboot個Linux? 根本不切實際
7. 呢個我都廢事詳答 你寫信去Apple叫佢整個官方Linux版 睇下佢地睬唔睬你
8. 你意思係叫我用第二隻程式(eg GIMP)之後重新學過? 太得閒冇野做嘅話 我可能會考慮下嘅 唔係個個好似係咁多時間 同埋我用PS/AI唔會係用自己部電腦 根本唔輪到我揀用咩程式 嗰部電腦得PS/AI

佢講黎講去都三幅屁 乜你仲咁「理性」呀

一諗到Mr A喺個芒後面嬲嬲豬個樣就想笑

不如我又講下

平時我用部電腦會:
1. 上下網睇下YouTube聽下歌 (Win/Mac/Linux ok)
2. 文書 (Colaboration=Google Docs, Individual work=MS Office)
3. 寫下program (Linux/Mac preferred, Win ok)
4. 用下MS Office (Win/Mac ok, Linux???)
5. 同啲fd玩on9 舊PC game (eg LF2) 要用一個virtual LAN嘅client (only Win ok) 所有fd都用呢個client
6. 玩下啲新少少嘅PC game (Win ok, Mac, Linux)
7. iTunes入歌落iPod (Win/Mac ok, Linux???)
8. 比較少: Photoshop/Illustrator (Win/Mac only)

點解我覺得Linux唔啱我用(由尾講起):
8. 根本用唔到PS/AI
7. 唔識Linux裝iTunes (定根本裝唔到?)
6. 得閒整kvm gpu passthrough不如打多幾鋪機 又唔係特別有興趣整來整去 又唔係特別熟手
5. 成班fd都用嗰個client 如果我叫佢地轉client佢地睬我都有味 如果我好似MrA咁清高轉其他方法嘅話=唔要班fd唔同佢地玩on9 game
4. 整撚咗好耐個wine都裝唔到
3. Linux寫program係幾好 但係我有Mac用了 咁點解重要開Linux寫program 裝多幾個OS會型啲?咪傻啦
2. 唔好問我點解唔用LibreOffice, 真係用唔慣
由細到大都係用MS Office, 小學已經教用MS Office, 出到外面人地啲電腦都係用MS Office, 更加唔好問做咩唔叫全世界一齊轉LibreOffice, 個世界唔係圍住你轉
1. 其實淨係呢啲 Linux係ok嘅 但係無理由為咗Linux而裝Linux
dualboot麻煩 一做其他野好多時都要轉OS
virtual machine慢+點解要咁做 本新個OS又唔係上唔到網

總括而言 我唔理我自己做咩OS 反正如果stick with Windows佢都會係咁改 (Win10)
做到我想做嘅野就ok 問題係Linux做唔到/我整咗好耐都整唔到你用咗咁耐Linux你可能兩下就整到 但係對新用家黎講 整咗好耐都整唔到不如唔好整算

btw MrA唔同意的話 請逐個point回應

(I know reading english may not be comfortable for everyone [just like using linux], i type english just because my chinese typing is too slow)

8. 根本用唔到PS/AI & 7. 唔識Linux裝iTunes (定根本裝唔到?)
though Adobe's software is really pro and powerful, but it is normally used in small scale production. As I know in the media industry either everyone using a mac, or they will use other CG software for movie production, and the product is render using cluster that runs on linux.

I think if the linux commuity really want to bring mac software to linux, solutions simulate like wine should not be hard to develop. As macOS, which based on UNIX, is kind of similar to linux (In fact if some software exist in mac, i don't think it is that costly to make small change for linux compatibility), so my guess here is that such a solution means translating some interface and APIs.

But again I think this should be initiated by the community instead of begging adobe to do so.

6. 得閒整kvm gpu passthrough不如打多幾鋪機 又唔係特別有興趣整來整去 又唔係特別熟手 & 5. 成班fd都用嗰個client 如果我叫佢地轉client佢地睬我都有味 如果我好似MrA咁清高轉其他方法嘅話=唔要班fd唔同佢地玩on9 game & 4. 整撚咗好耐個wine都裝唔到
I don't really play games so not much i can say. But I play NBA2K and AOC on mac on wine, pretty smooth. I setup my wine using macport.

3. Linux寫program係幾好 但係我有Mac用了 咁點解重要開Linux寫program 裝多幾個OS會型啲?咪傻啦
No comment, if you have a mac. But for many people mac is too expensive, so buying a cheaper laptop then install linux is more affordable for programming beginner.

2. 唔好問我點解唔用LibreOffice, 真係用唔慣
由細到大都係用MS Office, 小學已經教用MS Office, 出到外面人地啲電腦都係用MS Office, 更加唔好問做咩唔叫全世界一齊轉LibreOffice, 個世界唔係圍住你轉
Though I have been using linux for some time, I have never use LibreOffice. In fact I use Google Doc across all the platform. If MS Office formatting is your concern, MS Office 365, the web version of MS office, is still a good solution. It even support collaborative work better then desktop version does.

1. 其實淨係呢啲 Linux係ok嘅 但係無理由為咗Linux而裝Linux
dualboot麻煩 一做其他野好多時都要轉OS
Agree there is no point to switch linux for no reason. For my I switch to linux and mac because Windows is unstable and inefficient.

(2) Ms Office 365 咪即係要比錢？
已經違反咗某人「要用開源及免費產品」既原則

1. 冇意見
2. google docs, libreoffice
3. 冇意見
4. 點解要用 msoffice ?
5. 點解冇跨平台開發 ?
6. 點解冇跨平台開發 ?
7. 點解冇跨平台開發 ?
8. 點解只可以用 photoshop/illustrator ?

2. 睇多次紅字, 我有用過, 一來真係唔慣, 二來周圍有九成嘅電腦都係行MS Office, 你想轉都轉唔到; btw公司電腦因保安理由, 冇internet connection, usb都讀唔到, 外來程式都run唔到, 只有MS Office用
4. 見(2.)
5. 因為個client舊到仆街 你出錢出力去開發? 我成班fd都係用開佢 冇得轉 重有唔好話developer唔整跨平台係佢嘅錯 因為隻client主要for PC(windows) game用 佢target係windows 唔需要做跨平台 不過我同啲fd攞埋黎做virtual LAN玩LF2咁解
6. 有啲係舊game 有其中一隻有出Linux版 但bug到仆街 重有就係如果windows都打到嘅機 我平時又用開windows(因為重有其他野要用windows做) 點解要突登裝Linux玩呢隻game? 又唔係Linux-exclusive 得閒冇野做想打機就要重新開機之後入dualboot個Linux? 根本不切實際
7. 呢個我都廢事詳答 你寫信去Apple叫佢整個官方Linux版 睇下佢地睬唔睬你
8. 你意思係叫我用第二隻程式(eg GIMP)之後重新學過? 太得閒冇野做嘅話 我可能會考慮下嘅 唔係個個好似係咁多時間 同埋我用PS/AI唔會係用自己部電腦 根本唔輪到我揀用咩程式 嗰部電腦得PS/AI

2. 有咩工具係天生識用 ? 如果你用緊個人身份識定職員身身份講 ?
5. 咁個 vlan 本身洗唔洗錢 ? 如果唔洗，而你有用，都可以回饋比開發者等佢開發 linux 版
6. 如果不切實際係理由既話，我可話打機本身都係不切實際
7. 隔黎 post 有人因為 apple 用緊中國 cert email apple 要求 apple 停用中國 cert 驚比人 mitm apple 未有回應，但依然努力緊，你認為唔值得野你可以唔做
8. 唔輪到你揀，而你選擇放棄揀選，其實你係唔需要討論

天生就識人= user experience for fresh user.
如果第一次用就唔識用，代表ux設計得差。
跟據非正式統計 libreoffice 既ux 比ms office 差好多

ok 我得出結論
以後問乜都直接答 點解唔用linux

屌 第一日上連登？有邊次佢唔係咁答架

(2) Ms Office 365 咪即係要比錢？
已經違反咗某人「要用開源及免費產品」既原則

講呢啲
用google drive用dropbox用過額都要課金啦

都係用 OS姐，咪又係 kernel shell

(2) Ms Office 365 咪即係要比錢？
已經違反咗某人「要用開源及免費產品」既原則

講呢啲
用google drive用dropbox用過額都要課金啦

Someone: 免費空間好夠洗 你有咩要擺成100gb? Google Photo 壓縮版夠用，洗乜比錢？

佢講黎講去都三幅屁 乜你仲咁「理性」呀

對唔住我嘅錯

佢問點解要用win打機丫嘛
我咪答佢我點解要用win
之後佢就話我冇討論價值/打機冇價值
重來冇駁過點解唔需要win打機

天生就識人= user experience for fresh user. 
如果第一次用就唔識用，代表ux設計得差。
跟據非正式統計 libreoffice 既ux 比ms office 差好多

巴打講出我心聲

仲駡戰緊

仲駡戰緊

係理性討論

天生就識人= user experience for fresh user. 
如果第一次用就唔識用，代表ux設計得差。
跟據非正式統計 libreoffice 既ux 比ms office 差好多

巴打講出我心聲

你對住一個覺得個個user都應該識用command line嘅人
講乜鬼user experience