IT界討論區:(37) 中年失業IT狗7x24 集體打J格劍,返到工叫春再被炒

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(1): https://lihkg.na.cx/thread/4990/page/1
(2): https://lihkg.na.cx/thread/69444/page/1
(3): https://lihkg.na.cx/thread/89460/page/1
(4): https://lihkg.com/thread/116590/page/1
(5): https://lihkg.com/thread/130061/page/1
(6): https://lihkg.com/thread/148992/page/1
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P仔 頂爛市參考價 ：
乜都唔識 + HD： 14k - 15k
識少少 + HD： 16k-18k
u grad + 白紙： 16k~18k
u grad + 有intern/相關pt/freelance exp : 19k ~21k

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IVE仔做mobile
開16k已經有工開啦
求撚其剪剪貼貼code
做一個APP

1年轉工都20k啦

peoplebank jp 16-7k請你番去main HTML page

利伸:唔想睇著同行死,一係唔好做IT DOG

----------------------------------IT真實行情---------------------------------------
----------------廣告1: Cyber Universal Company Limited-------------------------

早前我去一間係尖沙咀,叫"Cyber Universal Company Limited. 新意環球有限公司"見programmer
問起我點解想離開上一間公司
我同佢講因為上一間公司成日開OT,令我好難半工讀到
佢竟然好串咁話:
我地間公司成日都做到8,9點架啦!!好多時星期六、日都要OT返工!!
你想準時放工去讀書?去做保安啦你!!
保安咪準時放工收工後乜都唔洗理囉!!
你走得架啦!!
轉行做保安啦!!
果刻火到拍枱起身走

你地日日開OT=好威同正常?
係你地管理同能力問題吓?
垃圾港資扮大牌!!
見佢地日日登jobsdb,繼續登多幾年jobsdb啦!!

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冇自己位不在話下, 但有勁污糟既位俾你用
男人去廁所要去出面熱到仆街既公廁，女人就有公司廁所
Director 加丁點人工 = 俾機會你進步
打工學野係要交學費
落左site做野唔係公司 = 你放緊假好撚得閒
7 x 24 oncall is a must
例牌要OT做野
Sales 不嬲當Enginee 仔狗咁撚,客一投訴就送呢樣送果樣俾佢, 務求使撚死班Enginee 仔

「
xxxxxview, 最近爆左單野, 話說某間酒店同佢買 Cisco Main, 年年比足錢, 但是 Macrovxxx 冇同 Cisco 買, 變相自己白袋左筆錢 ... 最近間酒店轉 Vendor 先發現原來一直都冇同 Cisco 買 Main. 最後出 Legal 告 9 佢 ...

呢間正一仆街來, Sale 屎十問九唔應, E-mail 唔復, 甚至搵佢續 Main 都唔理我 ... 好明顯睇唔上我呢 D 細公司, 人手唔夠, 真係盞做死下面班細 ...

不過下面班細幾好, 落 case, 比埋 S/N, 幾個鐘內就有人復 ... 起碼都叫做有人跟下, 有人比我屌下 ...
」
----------------------------仆街公司/agent(係鍾意開名呀吹咩)-------------------------------
九巴,國泰,匯豐,lane crawford, pccw, jos, macroview
Adeeco, Seamatch, Manpowerundefined

i-vtec 1001唔開post

一人一個負皮
btw 說好的skill list呢

Fresh grad knowledge checklist
列表只供參考，以tech skill為主，好多soft skill / language / debug skill 冇辦法寫出黎

<Common>
* Google + Stackoverflow
- Programming Language
- Data Structure (Pointer, Array, Lists, Trees, Graphs, Queue, Stack)
- Algorithm (Data Structure Operations, Sorting, Searching, Recursion)
- OS (Theory)
- Linux
- Version Control (Git)
- [Bonus] Version Control (svn / cvs etc)
- [Bonus] Testing (Unit Test, Integration Test, Coverage Test, UAT)

<Programming Language, Field: Software Developer>
- [Common] Any 1 of Java (J2SE, OOP, common library, e.g. utils, IO, lists) / C++ / C# (similar operation like java)
- [Bonus] Java (J2EE, generics, multi-threading, networking, jdbc, etc.)
- [Bonus] C++ / C# / C / Python / Ruby / Pascal / Matlab / Javascript (similar operation like above)
- [Bonus] Any Functional Programming (Scala / Lisp / Clojure / Haskell / Perl)
specific purpose language not listed here

<Field: Web(frontend)>
- [Basic] HTML5 + CSS + Javascript
- [Basic] Any 1 of Angular(Js) / Vue / Reactjs
- [Basic] jQuery
- [Bonus] Any 2 of Angular(Js) / Vue / Reactjs
- [Bonus] SASS, LESS
- [Bonus] Backbone
- [Bonus] Browserify / Webpack
- [Bonus] Typescript / CoffeeScript
- [Basic/Bonus] UX

<Field: Web(backend)>
- [Basic] Any 1 of PHP / Node.js / Django / Ruby on rail / JSP
- [Basic] Any 1 of LAMP / MEAN
- [Bonus] Any 3 of PHP / Node.js / Django / Ruby on rail / JSP / etc.
- [Bonus] Laravel for PHP
- [Bonus] Express.js for Node.js
- [Bonus] http://asp.NET for C#
- [Bonus] Restful / SOAP API
- [Bonus] Container, docker, AWS EC2 Container, Google Container Engine, etc.
- [Basic/Bonus] Web(frontend)
- [Basic/Bonus] Networking
- [Basic/Bonus] Database

<Field: Mobile>
- [Basic] Any 1 of Android Studio / objective-C / swift
- [Basic] Can produce a runnable app
- [Basic] UI, FileSystem
- [Bonus] All 3 of Android Studio / object-C / swift
- [Bonus] Mobile App Architecture. MVC, Activity, Services, ContentProvider, BroadcastReceiver, Intent, Notification, LocationManager, Camera, Security, Power
- [Bonus] Hybrid App Framework (Ionic / React Native / Cordova, etc.)
- [Basic/Bonus] Database
- [Basic/Bonus] Networking (HTTP & Bluetooth etc.)
- [Basic/Bonus] UX

<Field: Networking>
- [Basic] OSI 5/7 layer
- [Basic] Switch / Router / Bridge / Hub / Repeater
- [Basic] VLAN
- [Basic] VPN
- [Basic] Firewall
- [Basic] CCNA's knowledge
- [Bonus] CCNA certification

<Field: Database>
- [Common] Any 1 of MySQL / OracleDB / MS SQL
- [Basic] MongoDB
- [Basic] Database design, ERD, normalization
- [Basic] Backup / Recovery
- [Basic] Transaction
- [Basic] Simple Performance Optimization
- [Bonus] Any 4 of RDBMS (MySQL / OracleDB / MS SQL / MS Access / PostgreSQL / Sybase / MariaDB / DB2)
- [Bonus] SQLite
- [Bonus] Redis

<Field: BigData>
- [Basic] Hadoop
- [Basic] Database
唔識big data，等人補

<Field: Machine Learning>
- [Basic] Basic Theory
- [Basic] Python + TensorFlow + Keras + Scikit learn
- [Bonus] MS Cognitive (CNTK) / Theano / AWS ML
- [Bonus] Java-ML / R
- [Bonus] Deep Learning
- [Bonus] NLP
- [Bonus] Database
- [Bonus] BigData
- [Basic/Bonus] Supervised Learning (Regression / Classification / SVM / Random Forest)
- [Basic/Bonus] Unsupervised Learning (Clustering / Association)

係之前啲post到cpoy出嚟

Lm

其實infra 同 consultant 算唔算it同有乜skill 需要？

荃灣格劍小天王就係小弟我啦

佢淨係識做生意咋嘛

其實infra 同 consultant 算唔算it同有乜skill 需要？

infra多數同networking一齊做，視情況會做埋devops
consultant公廁title，好睇實際要做咩

佢痴Q左線呀

標題

唔好亂講野，小心啲我既recusive i++ 粗壯劍

小心linkedin有間叫Worldhunt 的agent
呢間野我一律block曬，係網上面乜資料都無只係咁叫我send CV彩你都on 9
好鬼
入面好似好多agent咁
但入去裏面睇個個都接近冇background
又冇地址電話網站
問佢有乜工佢只會叫你send cv過去
伏味超濃

下個post放落置頂

聽日十點見叫 Infocean 呢一間做solution 公司有冇伏

有咩柒頭野一定要頂起
IT工都係個句
工就大撚把
但係好做既,真係好撚小

小心linkedin有間叫Worldhunt 的agent
呢間野我一律block曬，係網上面乜資料都無只係咁叫我send CV彩你都on 9
好鬼
入面好似好多agent咁
但入去裏面睇個個都接近冇background
又冇地址電話網站
問佢有乜工佢只會叫你send cv過去
伏味超濃

「感謝你加我」

呢班人做agent 做到cold call咁，介紹親啲工都伏到仆街

我有幸中過伏，上去in完個老細仲話「我地想同容人keep長期合作關係，所以頭兩年都唔會收個客maintenance fee」

而家長期唔理 咁樣都學人做agent真係

班友唔係一般的柒

一開linkedin就三個request from them
咁嘅message
點會想應你

最下面2個