Amber Turd VS Johnny Depp 最新戰況 (9) We love you Johnny

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2022-06-01 16:36:30
睇過佢幾條片
好似話佢一開始都唔睇好
但JD rebuttal 上stand個日佢係現場
佢話現場睇JD真係好有感染力
所以個下開始覺得JD勝算應該高
2022-06-01 16:37:37
而家個問題係掉轉
個標題寫到明sexual violence
反而內容寫得含糊好多,淨係話domestic abuse

咁所以如果話refer個標題,啲jury只要相信JD冇sexual abuse過AH就夠形成誹謗,唔駛再爭拗verbal abuse計唔計,JD鬧AH時口臭算唔算abuse之類嘅問題
2022-06-01 16:43:19
judge 講到明俾 jury 知,要了解AH 出oped 嘅意圖,係咪針對JD , 如果係, 咁樣先可以判JD win , 所以JD win 並不是容易
2022-06-01 16:44:12
條友啲料好多流,好嘩眾取寵想吸fans
2022-06-01 16:44:35
應該係JD legal team指明係個headline defame佢
因為真係零證據JD有sexual violence
2022-06-01 16:45:01
佢話啲jury大部分明顯對AH成條team連證人極度不耐煩
當我哋見到AH瘋狂眼神攻擊啲jury時,基本上佢哋全部(包括AH集中攻擊嘅#4 #5兩個女嘅)都頂唔順冇望佢,有啲直情凳都轉埋去全程對住Camille
2022-06-01 16:47:46
因為內文佢好小心咁冇提到JD sexual abuse 佢

Amber Heard: I spoke up against sexual violence—and faced our culture's wrath, That has to change.”

I was exposed to abuse at a very young age. I knew certain things early on, without ever having to be told. I knew that men have the power — physically, socially and financially — and that a lot of institutions support that arrangement. I knew this long before I had the words to articulate it, and I bet you learned it young, too.

Like many women, I had been harassed and sexually assaulted by the time I was of college age. But I kept quiet — I did not expect filing complaints to bring justice. And I didn’t see myself as a victim.

Then two years ago, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and I felt the full force of our culture’s wrath for women who speak out.

AH Team 想用內文第二段argue sexual abuse 唔係講緊JD
JD Team 想話文章標題足夠令讀者以為JD 係sexual abuser
法官釐清jury 只需要考慮標題有冇誹謗
啫係話標題黨都會告得入
2022-06-01 16:49:24
2022-06-01 16:56:04
我明喇
下面係instruction, Jury問緊page 6, No. C, 第3
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/sites/circuit/files/assets/documents/pdf/high-profile/depp%20v%20heard/cl-2019-2911-jury-instructions.pdf

No. C只係針對"I spoke against sexual violence..."依句 (後面會分開睇埋其他)
咁岩"I spoke against..."係篇文title, 所以Jury問清楚依part係講緊依句, 定成篇
所以法官答淨係睇依句
2022-06-01 16:56:11
最後at 已經認咗篇內文係講jd ,話佢好有men power同認自己寫,再加上標題話性虐待, 應該斷正即啪啦
common sense 上冇理由可以話唔關jd 事
2022-06-01 16:56:58
2022-06-01 16:59:42
其實只要佢話篇文唔係佢寫,佢鳩up
或者話篇文針對舊男友

係佢自己抵唔住頸最後玩自爆
2022-06-01 17:02:09
有裁決未?
2022-06-01 17:03:19
好多人都等緊
好緊張
2022-06-01 17:04:24
但都要Jury 聽得出,記得佢最後唔小心自爆嘅時候係同JD 律師疊晒聲,Jury 又無得好似我地咁樣replay
2022-06-01 17:06:51
Jury手頭上有法庭入面任何講過嘅野嘅文字紀錄
應該可以搵返出嚟
2022-06-01 17:07:05
咁可唔可以Think in this way
Title寫嘅係"I spoke up against sexual violence" 主題係SV
而AT已經親口承認篇文係指JD 即係標題都明顯Referring to JD
但係庭上冇任何證據表明JD有性侵佢
只要再Prove到呢篇文令JD名譽受損+收入減少 咁誹謗罪就成立
2022-06-01 17:08:30
其實Jury禮拜二向法官clarify第3題(is this statement false)
代表已經答左第1 2題(係咪Turd寫,係咪講緊JD)係yes
2022-06-01 17:10:33
我既理解係咁

本身我諗住jd 係一定輸因為要睇埋內文,只要有任何一單暴力事件已經足以證明不是defamation

但原來淨係針對title, 而title 只係講左sv, 而非任何形式既暴力

所有證詞中,只有ah 聲稱既用酒樽插西事件係同性侵有關,而呢單野係完全無任何證據

所以只要證明因為呢篇文而導致收入有損失就ok
2022-06-01 17:12:03
htps://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/sites/circuit/files/Asset s/Documents/PDE/High-Profile/Depp%20v2%20Heard/CL-2019-2911-jury-instructionS.pdf
講緊呢份jury instructions
No. C
2022-06-01 17:13:54

(圖版)
第2題答yes幾利JD, 明明篇文無提個任何人名
2022-06-01 17:17:35
唔係淨係針對title, JD個邊揀咗3句嚟告

咁岩(a)係篇文title, 所以jury先問係針對依句定成篇文
2022-06-01 17:19:14
https://twitter.com/grinsli/status/1531617108299218954?s=21&t=2UNoR6ap-sie5gUT4Dsj0w

以我理解依家jury係按以上各自3項statement去判定對方是否有誹謗成份

Jury問既係JD team 第一項statement

但仲有第2同3都只係講DV and abuse 個人認為第2,3項係比較大空間去爭論

但係咪3項statement中晒先成立誹謗定中其中一項都已構成誹謗
2022-06-01 17:24:25
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