測量(GP, BS, QS)討論區12

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2019-05-19 17:56:18
前幾年建造業興旺 搞到好多人都諗住做測量師
白紙入行/Asso/HD… etc都仲趕到尾班車入行

近年淡市 請少左人
宜家白紙入行/Asso/HD都愈來愈難搵工 除非你能力超卓
但起薪亦唔會好似以前禁高

忠告:
白紙入行/ 諗緊讀非degree 測量既話
除非你識人帶你入行
否則想入行前請三思


舊post link:
1: https://lihkg.com/thread/2341
2: https://lihkg.com/thread/144313
3: https://lihkg.com/thread/333225
4: https://lihkg.com/thread/422878
5: https://lihkg.com/thread/472092
6: https://lihkg.com/thread/554816
7: https://lihkg.com/thread/658017
8: https://lihkg.com/thread/748555
9: https://lihkg.com/thread/792870
10: https://lihkg.com/thread/900244
11: https://lihkg.com/thread/1029104

拋磚引玉先
以下係有關過去資料既整合 如有錯漏 請指正
2019-05-19 17:57:50
根據HKIS (香港測量師學會) 分類,Surveying有6個stream,分別為:
1) BS (Building Surveyor)
2) GP (General Practice Surveyor) / ES (Estate Surveying)
3) LS (Land surveyor)
4) P&D (Planning & Development)
5) PFM (Property & Facility management)
6) QS (Quantity Surveyor)

Jupas收生入面
其中HKU (JS6016) 同PolyU (JS3789) 個surveying programme
主要都係QS BS GP,畢業後除左LS牌其他牌都可以去考
而LS牌就要 PolyU (JS3387)
CityU (JS1201) 只可以考QS BS, 當中大部分會揀QS
由於P&D同PFM太冷門,以下主要討論BS QS GP三大stream
2019-05-19 17:59:02
直接置頂 咪入行做測量啦吃力不討好嘅行業
2019-05-19 17:59:03
BS全名Building Surveying
主要工作分三大類,包括building control,maintenance以及project management。
Building control指根據法例,例如Buildings Ordinance,規管樓宇設計同建造,簡單嚟講就係「批則」同執法,所以有一大堆例要背,例如走廊要幾闊窗要幾大走火要幾多度門之類,但一般唔太需要背案例。
當年689話唔知自己間屋有潛建,因為佢唔係果方面專業,講緊嘅就係睇潛建主要係BS,而689係外國讀GP,但其實佢係香港poly讀BS HD嘅
至於maintenance就講點樣keep the building safe,要學點樣補石屎防漏水之類,用咩物料咩方法都要識。至於project management就要管一單project,通常我地會考慮錢同時間,例如港豬澳大橋點解又超支又㢟期,就係project management的問題。

QS全名Quantity Surveying
主要工作係construction,即係起樓,地盤果啲。一般fresh grad QS會先做measurement,就係對住圖紙數番用左幾多物料,例如石屎,鐵,門,門較,門鎖。我無誇張,的確係咁detail咁枯燥乏味⋯
然後就可以接觸contract/payment,例如你係contractor side,即係承建商果邊,你就要study份contract,睇下點樣可以問client,例如政府,掙多啲錢,可能係對方改圖則要賠償等等。

GP全名General Practice / ES (Estate Surveying)
再可以細分多個範疇,例如valuation(估價),leasing(租務), investment等等。
估價通常指估地價,例如新聞每次講政府賣地都會有條柒頭講市場預期,
最後成交價又比預期上限仲高左50%果啲,個估算就係呢款測量師做。
租務通常講商場同寫字樓,住宅太細,除非成棟咁計,否則一間間計果啲留番比地產狗。咁打理一個商場為例,你要諗tenant mix,諗下點樣renovate個商場,吸引多啲人,甚至幾時賣左佢先搵最多錢。
investment就同BBA差唔多,做research睇下投資邊個商庋,幫基金砌靚個portfolio,要對市場有一定觸覺,溝通同socialize skill亦係3個stream之中要求最高。
2019-05-19 17:59:39
目前本港只有三間大學開辦測量學 full time ugc Bachelor Degree
認受性最高

HKU JS6016 BSc in Surveying
每年收生人數: 約60人
收生分數: Best5 ~28-30
課程: 每個stream都教d, 較多畢業生向GP發展

PolyU JS3789 BSc (Hons) in Surveying
每年收生人數: 約40人
收生分數: Best5 ~26-27
課程: Year3 分開 GP 同 QS/BS , Year4再分開QS同BS, stream 人數較平均

CityU JS1201 Department of Architecture and Civil Engineering
每年收生人數: 約120人 Surveying約佔40人
收生分數: Best5 ~21-22
BSc Surveying, BEng Civil Engineering, BEng Architectural Engineering
(Year1後按GPA揀major)
課程: 主要偏向QS 因此較多畢業生向QS發展

Land Surveying就係另一個programme
PolyU JS3387 BSc (Hons) in Land Surveying and Geo-Informatics
(前身為JS3727)
每年收生人數: 約30人

另外
PolyU JS3789 Broad Discipline of Construction & Environment
**(2012-2018, 課程將於2019年取消)
每年收生人數: 約100人
收生分數: Best5 ~22-24
2019-05-19 18:01:46
常見問題1: 測量人工點? 抵讀嗎?

DSE Jupas best 5收生分數
HKU ~28-30分,PolyU ~26-27分, CityU ~21-22分
根據近年畢業生人工統計 三間本地大學surveying grad平均月入約:
(畢業生人工僅供參考 不能與其他學士/副學士作準)

HKU:
2016 $19,200
2015 $18,000
2014 $18,400
2013 $17,100
2012 $17,200
2011 $16,000

PolyU:
2017 $20,000
2016 $18,600
2015 $19,400
2014 $19,000
2013 $17,800
2012 $16,600
2011 $15,800

CityU:
2018: $19,800

Graduate Employment Survey

HKU
http://cedars.hku.hk/sections/careersplacement/GraduateEmploymentSurvey/leaflet/2015/UG/BSc(Surv).pdf
PolyU
https://www.polyu.edu.hk/caps/publications/graduate-employment-survey
CityU




可見前幾年就算建造業興旺 人工加幅係近年已經開始放緩
同期PolyU 醫療科fresh grad平均月入~28k-31k
如果係夠分既DSE學生 又冇乜特別興趣 要諗清楚自己究竟想向邊方面發展
2019-05-19 18:02:19
常見問題2: 就業前景

前幾年測量繼續被兩登以及社會吹奏, 加埋HKIS學會吹奏人工月入(可高達)10萬 ,越來越多人認識測量,覺得有得考牌做專業人士,收分又無medic pharm law咁高,所以每屆都越來越多人報

正正因為前幾年行業發展得快,
HKU對收多左人,PolyU本科+Broad Discipline+ Non jupas HD, CityU本科+Non jupas Asso, 每屆總共超過200人grad
另外仲加埋Thei + Ive, etc每年幾百人

而工程水尾,Civil食屎之際 (呢2年local u grad 2nd up都競爭激烈)
QS都好難置身事外

所謂爆煲係冇幾年前咁好景,但3間local ugc degree未至於搵唔到工
公司整體上收少左人 比前幾年少offer選擇
當然, gpa都唔好太差 因為有d大公司就算你岩岩好得2nd up都未必有得in
不過呢幾年intake多左咁多
其他學院既surveying degree/asso/hd/ive加加埋埋幾百人
而Asso/hd/ive既freshgrad位有限 並唔係個個都有offer
GPA / 醒唔醒目 / 識唔識人就會變得更重要
2019-05-19 18:04:35
成日都好多人mon post 但好少人講野

統計下呢個post有幾多人
正評: 本地3間大學ugc 測量學士 (HKU, PolyU, CityU)
負評: 其他 (海外大學, Master, 本地UCEM, Topup degree, Asso, HD, Thei, IVE, 白紙入行, etc)
2019-05-19 18:08:59
仲讀緊書想做BS
有咩可以準備
2019-05-19 18:18:36
準備做狗
2019-05-19 18:34:51
2019-05-19 18:40:14
過來人贈兩句
未入行嘅千奇唔好入
入左行嘅及早離去
2019-05-19 18:55:06
MHKIS新post LM
2019-05-19 18:55:43
考牌,之後唔會搵唔到食,又唔會發達咁囉。
2019-05-19 19:13:04
2019-05-19 19:59:23
有冇QS做緊NEC Contract, QS角色同傳統contract 有咩分別?
有冇巴打講下
2019-05-19 20:03:26
以下係工料測量課程

Quantity Surveying Related Programmes


Hong Kong Institute of Vocational Education
Higher Diploma in Surveying (FT): http://www.vtc.edu.hk/admission/en/programme/eg114111-higher-diploma-in-surveying/

Higher Diploma in Surveying (Part-time Evening): http://www.vtc.edu.hk/admission/en/programme/eg524111-higher-diploma-in-surveying/

Higher Diploma in Building Studies (FT): http://www.vtc.edu.hk/admission/en/programme/eg114105-higher-diploma-in-building-studies/

Higher Diploma in Building Studies (Part-time Day): http://www.vtc.edu.hk/admission/en/programme/eg314105-higher-diploma-in-building-studies/

Higher Diploma in Building Studies (Part-time Evening): http://www.vtc.edu.hk/admission/en/programme/eg524105-higher-diploma-in-building-studies/

Hong Kong Institute of Construction
Advanced Diploma In Quantity Surveying (FT): http://www.hkic.edu.hk/eng/course/dqm

Hong Kong College of Technology
Higher Diploma in Building Technology (PT): https://www.hkct.edu.hk/program_details/?lang=tc&id=6012

Pearson BTEC (Continuous Professional Education Centre)
Higher National Diploma (HND) in Construction and the Built Environment (Quantity Surveying Stream): https://www.cpegrouphk.com/index.php/10-programmesd/60-btec-hnd-const-qs

Higher National Diploma (HND) in Construction and the Built Environment (Construction Management Stream): https://www.cpegrouphk.com/index.php/10-programmesd/57-hnd-building-cm

HKU SPACE
Professional Diploma in Construction Project Management: https://hkuspace.hku.hk/prog/prof-dip-in-construction-project-management

THEI
Bachelor of Science (Honours) Surveying (FT): https://www.thei.edu.hk/programme/design/bachelor-of-science-honours-in-surveying/programme-information

University College of Estate Management
BSc (Hons) Quantity Surveying: http://www.ucem.edu.hk/bsc/qs/

BSc (Hons) Construction Management: http://www.ucem.edu.hk/bsc/cm/

MSc Quantity Surveying: http://www.ucem.edu.hk/msc/msc-quantity-surveying-ncr-252542/

PolyU SPEED
Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Surveying (FT): https://www.speed-polyu.edu.hk/courseinfo.php?code=84059&sourse=program&id=8427a75c-1541-11e9-b3cc-005056907848&type_code=1

Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Surveying (PT): https://www.speed-polyu.edu.hk/courseinfo.php?code=84060&sourse=program&id=a0cd3a32-503a-11e9-ba1a-005056907848&type_code=1

Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Building Engineering and Management (FT): https://www.speed-polyu.edu.hk/courseinfo.php?code=84057&sourse=program&id=4bbb456c-723f-11e9-ba1a-005056907848&type_code=1

Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Building Engineering and Management (PT): https://www.speed-polyu.edu.hk/courseinfo.php?code=84058&sourse=program&id=6e253d14-503a-11e9-ba1a-005056907848&type_code=1

Birmingham City University (Continuous Professional Education Centre)
BSc (Hons) Quantity Surveying (PT): https://www.cpegrouphk.com/index.php/10-programmesd/40-bsc-hons-quantity-surveying-ciob-rics
2019-05-19 20:04:04
Birmingham City University (Continuous Professional Education Centre)

BSc (Hons) Construction Management (PT): https://www.cpegrouphk.com/index.php/10-programmesd/41-bsc-hons-construction-management-ciob-rics

MSc Quantity Surveying (PT): https://www.cpegrouphk.com/index.php/10-programmesd/73-msc-in-construction-project-management-ciob-rics-3

MSc Construction Project Management (PT): https://www.cpegrouphk.com/index.php/10-programmesd/42-msc-in-construction-project-management-ciob-rics

RMIT (SHAPE)
Bachelor of Applied Science (Construction Management) (Honours) (FT/PT): https://www.shape.edu.hk/programme.php?id=8130172

University of Central Lancashire (SHAPE)
BSc (Hons) Quantity Surveying (PT): https://www.shape.edu.hk/programme.php?id=2131070

Coventry University (SHAPE)
BSc (Hons) Construction Management (PT): https://www.shape.edu.hk/programme.php?id=5730088

Leeds Beckett University (Hong Kong College of Technology)
BSc (Hons) Quantity Surveying (PT): https://www.hkct.edu.hk/program_details/?lang=tc&id=6009

University of Central Lancashire (Hong Kong College of Technology)
BSc (Hons) Construction Project Management (PT): https://www.hkct.edu.hk/program_details/?lang=tc&id=6008

MSc Construction Project Management (PT): https://www.hkct.edu.hk/program_details/?lang=tc&id=6001

University of Wolverhampton (City SCOPE)
BSc (Hons) Quantity Surveying: https://www.scope.edu/Home/Programmes/BachelorsDegreeTop-up/BScHonsQuantitySurveying.aspx

BSc (Hons) Construction Management: https://www.scope.edu/Home/Programmes/BachelorsDegreeTop-up/BScHonsConstructionManagement.aspx

Univeristy of Salford (Asian Institute of Built Environment)
MSc Quantity Surveying (PT): http://aibe-edu.org/en/programmes_S_mscqs.html

MSc Quantity Surveying (Mechanical and Electrical) (PT): http://aibe-edu.org/en/programmes_S_mscqsmne.html

Liverpool John Moores University (Hong Kong Financial Services Institute)
Master of Science in Quantity Surveying and Commercial Management (PT): http://www.hkfsi.edu.hk/MSQSClM/index.jhtml

University of Greenwich (HKU SPACE)
Master of Science in Project Management International: https://hkuspace.hku.hk/prog/msc-in-project-management
2019-05-19 20:06:32
Degree QS未有offer留名衰太廢
2019-05-19 20:10:03
University of Hong Kong

BSc Surveying: https://www.arch.hku.hk/programmes/rec/bachelor-of-science-in-surveying/

Master of Science in Construction Project Management: https://aal.hku.hk/tpg/programme/master-science-construction-project-management

City University of Hong Kong

Associate of Science in Surveying: http://www.cityu.edu.hk/catalogue/ug/current/programme/ASCSUR2.htm

Associate of Science in Construction Engineering and Management: http://www.cityu.edu.hk/catalogue/ug/current/programme/ASCCEM2.htm

BSc Surveying: https://www.admo.cityu.edu.hk/programme/1547A/

MSc Construction Management: https://www.cityu.edu.hk/pg/programme/p52

Hong Kong Polytechnic University

HD in Building Technology & Management (Surveying): https://www.jupas.edu.hk/tc/programme/polyu/JS3284/

HD in Building Technology & Management (Engineering): https://www.jupas.edu.hk/tc/programme/polyu/JS3038/

BSc (Hons) in Surveying: https://www.jupas.edu.hk/tc/programme/polyu/JS3789/

BSc (Hons) in Building Engineering and Management: https://www.jupas.edu.hk/tc/programme/polyu/JS3791/
2019-05-19 20:13:01
月入十萬

2019-05-19 20:24:31
讀緊master想轉入GP
仲未決定到valuation 定leasing好
2019-05-19 20:52:38
原本做緊邊行
2019-05-19 22:34:57
lm
2019-05-19 23:04:35
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