勞力士假錶已經玩冧咗成個市場

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塞尚先生 2024-07-19 14:57:38
你信咪得
https://youtu.be/lS7T3uAjaS8?si=TNvUcwQvSMzDX2US

睇下人地點講由機械開始就唔同級別 仲講咩做唔做到
你話整黎呃傻仔咪得
思想巨人行動侏儒 2024-07-19 15:00:35
高仿4k人仔有啦
係開心仔既 2024-07-19 15:09:35
我都係聽行內人講佢地上面d廠接咩單唔信由佢,佢就係話佢地有接幾十萬tier 既錶都係made in China

Dior 咪俾人爆個袋成本400蚊made in Italy by Chinese上court 既資料黎無得假,d女咪又係日日討論咩皮咩工d線個扣點點點,咪一樣賣你幾皮

Luxury 90%都係買個brand 同design 嫁啦勿認真
塞尚先生 2024-07-19 15:16:23
咩錶咪講出黎聽下
中國人最鍾意9吹自己有幾勁

Dior比人爆係用中國人姐
又唔係件野係中國製
而且佢個$400係唔連材料

點解咁多人覺得名牌係賣brand
如果剩係宣傳就做到名牌 咁名牌就太易做啦
係開心仔既 2024-07-19 15:57:33
人地商業秘密會唔會同我講係Rolex 定AP呀唔驚俾人告呀,佢自己就做同5位數價既錶相關既野

姐係你覺得made in Italy by Chinese 同made in China 有分別你腦諗緊個個係講意文既中國職人?事實上只係Milan 既淘寶廠Reddit 有人transit 左原文係initial cost of 53,包唔包料自己判斷

因為名牌真係賣brand十皮既野,有一皮係cost已經好俾面,下面有2個quora comment 講勞既成本,一個uncle 係watchmaker 一個做曬功課,大概10-15%,commission/marketing/merchant食50-60%,rolex 自己袋30%,手袋一定抽水勁過錶

Figures light years away from those that foreign workers collected to return the bags to the clients to display in the shop window at prices significantly higher than the production ones (2,600 euros compared to an initial cost of 53): there are those who spoke of a few hundreds of euros; and there are those who even declared that they do not receive a fixed salary , adding "that his brother-in-law 'delivers' him something and that he benefits from room and board at the premises made available by New Leather".

調查顯示,幾家國際精品涉入剝削勞工的情節類似,都是委託中國承包商製造,而中國人經營的工廠內普遍有非法勞工、剝削等問題,中國承包商甚至可能再層層「外判」給其他更下游的工廠。這些下游工廠的生產成本更低、勞動條件更差。

意大利警方調查指出,製造商將1個市價2600歐元的手袋,成本壓縮到56歐元,是「極度剝削勞工」,包括低薪、超長工時、苛扣假期、逃稅、僱用黑工等。

I recently went through this exercise with my uncle (who is a watchmaker among other things) to figure out what it would cost to make a watch equivalent to a new Rolex Submariner (~approx $7K here in Canada). Pricing everything out to achieve the same quality of materials and build we got to about 700. The other 6300 goes to cover Rolex's advertising and sponsorship money to keep the brand 'exclusive' and to justify the higher cost to make the watch more prestigious. While I could afford to buy a new Submariner, I would rather build an equivalent watch with my uncle and have the experience rather than the prestige.

That type of information is conveniently kept confidential, but by gathering publicly available prices for similar products, we can estimate that the production cost of an average stainless steel Rolex watch retailing at USD 5,000 is less than USD 1,000. Maybe even less than USD 750.

You can take for reference the publicly released price of competitor Vaucher's 3000 mechanism (TimeZone : Industry News " N E W Watch Group) at USD 1,000, which probably compares in quality and craftsmanship to Rolex' proprietary 3255. There's at least USD 150 for the case if we take for reference Daniel Duplain's generic Swiss cases (http://mdwatch.ch/), and eBay shows Swiss-grade dials available between USD 30 and 50, hand sets available for about USD 25 and original Rolex bracelets between USD 350 and 400.

That's a combined value of at least USD 1,555 on spare parts, with a considerable upmark. Considering the economy of scale that Rolex makes by mass-producing complete watches, the production cost likely falls below USD 1,000 per watch.

The store probably takes a 40% commission and the importer probably takes another 20%. Within a retail price of USD 5,000, there'a a $ 1,000 that goes to the importer (who is responsible for repairs), $ 2,000 that go to the store and Rolex is left with $ 2,000 to pay for their fixed expenses and production costs . Both Rolex and the importer also dedicate a percentage of their commission to advertising.
係開心仔既 2024-07-19 16:07:57
要性價比就咪鬼買名牌一部一球既波子taycan 咪日日俾人屌死機我幾千買對golden goose,2個月穿撚左啦,算吧啦

要抵性價比高咪買日本野,㗎仔普遍profit margin 低d
塞尚先生 2024-07-19 16:25:08
鳩吹又冇證據 講乜都得啦
人地做個廠都講左 根本部機就做唔到個個級數
勞係錶入面 個打磨已經唔係最高級別
但係d假錶都做唔到相同嘅打磨 明唔明

係邊度做 就緊係重要
咪講左中國根本冇個個環境同規管標準做頂級工藝
唔通中國人係美國做科研 個成果會係屬於中國?

又黎成本論 唔知你邊part計成本 邊part唔計
開發成本計唔計 技術成本計唔計 宣傳成本計唔計
銷售成本計唔計

如果剩係計物品本身成本
咁好似金 寶石哩類天然資源 係唔係要免費先合理?
塞尚先生 2024-07-19 16:31:02
唔知你扯去性價比做乜
冇人講過名牌係用性價比去量度
晏菲路之子 2024-07-19 16:43:28
咁應該用咩去量度
塞尚先生 2024-07-19 16:50:01
咪追求更優質
不嬲由99去到100 成本係大過1去99

各行各業都係為左個極輕微嘅差異化付出大量成本
係開心仔既 2024-07-19 16:54:28
Post 條大陸YouTube 片有幾有證據呀清係咪上班台個d稅單先講得人工,上個網咪咁大壓力啦咪講左唔信由佢,反正我個fd係錶廠商會會員,我就信佢過多你條YouTube 片啦

我無接觸過d假錶有幾真/假,我只係想講所謂名牌好多都係係返大陸造/made in xxx by Chinese

呢d係清口中既頂級工藝既環境同規管
長達 34 頁的裁決書指出,4間供應商共僱用了32名員工,當中2人為非法移民、7人沒有工作所需證件。檢方發現,4家供應商晝夜無縫生產,為確保24 小時均有人手,部份人被迫睡在工作地點,但沒有定期合同。工人生活和工作的衛生和健康條件,均低於最低標準。

唔通中國人係美國做科研 個成果會係屬於中國?
美國唔驚就唔會ban曬佢地啦呢幾年一種技術/科技要做到global barrier,係要講到chip/biopharm呢d lv 既”頂級工藝”,背後support 既係成個supply chain每一個國家都specialise 一種野先做到ie一粒chip 無左material/equipment/foundries/packaging 都無NVDA,唔係整錶整袋唔洗講成本啦,大大個Dior 例子係到你都睇唔到,lvmh 嫁,你估個group 會唔知/其他牌子唔係?我諗全球一半既頂級工藝清都要避開了

清你係咪平時個d買個rimowa (also lvhm)會覺得有頂級工藝個轆順d鋼水點點點個d

係capital world you don’t get what you pay for
係開心仔既 2024-07-19 17:08:38
開發成本/技術成本1940可能就有,2024呀清,隻水鬼同10年前同20年前同30年前有幾大既技術提升呀

一間high tech company 都係得10% R&D咋衣着野你覺得有咩要開發,Nike 既R&D一個jpm analyst 2017估佢地5年用左2.5bn,個5年有150bn revenue,姐係1.5%,你買對一千蚊既鞋有15蚊就去左開發啦,luxury group 既margin 遠高過Nike 呢d,姐係你當1%啦
係開心仔既 2024-07-19 17:10:01
操意大利文既中國匠人既頂級工藝
塞尚先生 2024-07-19 17:12:33
我發現都幾難同d傻嘅人講邏輯
個事實係中國出產唔到頂級工藝 人地就講返個原因
你就同人講個事實唔係咁 係產出到 咁就緊係你比證據

正如哩個世上冇外星人 你話有 就緊係你比證據
你會唔會叫人證明冇外星人

又唔知點解扯去鋼水乜乜77
咪講左名牌唔單止哩樣野
係開心仔既 2024-07-19 17:23:40
個事實係中國出產唔到頂級工藝
一直都同你講緊d野係大陸/大陸人整,我就行家講+意大利法庭認證,你就睇youtube,都係個句,唔信咪算

你想要咩證據?叫人爆格離廠簽左邊間錶商做隻幾十萬既錶?講完唔信再叫人入廠影俾埋你睇?再唔信拎隻出黎睇下?唔好咁天真好嘛,睇小d 9up YouTube

意大利法庭自己Google 啦大個仔啦

成個討論你淨係圍繞住條YouTube,同d莫名其妙既perception,咩頂級工藝,大佬,買mass production 既野唔好咁多幻想
係開心仔既 2024-07-19 17:26:27
你去做套香港最好既西裝都係皮幾野咋,個d就頂級工藝,買brand,走去買套傻西血汗工廠四間係隻手肘到既都幾皮啦
思守熊桃櫻 2024-07-19 17:44:37
可以有單,一模一樣,不過我唔知rolex既高仿程度係點
但絕對唔係你講既幾千蚊就買到
思守熊桃櫻 2024-07-19 17:47:22
你覺得咁好賺會輪到你?講智商你都冇乜
思守熊桃櫻 2024-07-19 17:50:22
唔好為拗而拗啦,我講最重要係口碑,唔代表佢冇精密既工藝同靚料,有靚料有工藝去高仿一定好賺過新整一個奢侈品牌,我既回應係對應返你講既野,你估中國冇自己奢侈品牌咩,有工藝有靚料少人買都冇用
思守熊桃櫻 2024-07-19 17:53:35
算啦,啲人成日話整唔到係未見識過姐
未接觸過唔識都正常,但唔好唔識就否定哂囉

當鋪啲人咁專業都分唔撚到,一個二個口講就以為自己好識
思守熊桃櫻 2024-07-19 18:01:09
有證據人地比人拉左啦,正如你毒品都唔會上網show證據比人知你真係有賣啦,撈偏呢家野不嬲靠人際,講到咁好賺不如叫埋你去做,你憑乜?係親友?唔好話撈偏啦,就算係買家,不論買毒品高仿買馬玩股票內幕tips都要有門路有價值先會預埋你,買都唔易啦仲話想入行,笑死
監獄廢淡·曾國熙 2024-07-19 18:04:32
你唔好同我講幾千蚊乜乜柒柒啦 公價7折有冇貨??必須上到14樓做到保養既 我幫襯你買10隻
思守熊桃櫻 2024-07-19 18:05:45
啲人唔識以自己好識,冇錯工藝係一個賣點,但同樣工藝有brand同冇brand個價可以差勁撚遠,但一個好既工藝同一個差啲既工藝如果佢地都係brand可以係一樣價錢,呢套已經證明左係個brand重要過工藝啦,佢地邏輯唔夠仲要拗
思守熊桃櫻 2024-07-19 18:06:44
你咁勁咪自己搵囉,洗人介紹咩
監獄廢淡·曾國熙 2024-07-19 18:11:03
假表仲要識人先買到 你都癲得幾勻循
仲難買過真錶咁你整假錶個意義係邊?
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