召集LIHKG所有單車jj (6)

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2017-04-25 21:54:48
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鬚根
13 日前
第一回: 召集LIHKG所有單車jj
https://lihkg.com/thread/98137/page/1
第二回: 召集LIHKG所有單車jj (2)
https://lihkg.com/thread/144650/page/1
第三回: 召集LIHKG所有單車jj (3)
https://lihkg.com/thread/165110/page/1
第四回: 召集LIHKG所有單車jj (4)
https://lihkg.com/thread/179656/page/1
第五回: 召集LIHKG所有單車jj (5)
https://lihkg.com/thread/198726/page/1

基本資料,介紹,相關網站

Step1
Competitivecyclist:
呢個網站將會直接聯左你去量度自己既身形,記住揀返自己係買RB定MTB定TT
最終結果亦會話返你知自己未來買既車大概會係乜野幾何係合理
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/Store/catalog/fitCalculatorBike.jsp?INT_ID=IB12809#type

Step2
現時既車架普遍會分為破風架、上山架同埋舒適架,材料上主流亦分為鋁同碳。
鋼/鈦係RB同MTB主流車廠中相對比較少見,所以暫不討論。
以Giant呢間廠為例,Propel系列係破風架;TCR係上山架;Defy係舒適架
三種車架各有特色同考慮因素。

破風架:
一般破風架既騎乘姿勢係最向前趴,相對地要求比較好既柔軟度,而且亦比同級上山架重身少少,亦係唔同測試當中比較唔受氣阻影響(踩得慢同短距離其實就無乜影響)。

上山架:
一般上山架騎乘姿勢係比較挺直山,係上山既時候會保持一個相對好發力既姿勢,而且呢類型車架亦都比較輕身,外型上可能會無所謂破風架咁「型棍」。

舒適架:
留待比較熟既巴絲補充!

Step3
咁了解完乜架乜架之後,終歸都要諗錢既問題,咁你就要考量你自己既筆直去到邊,究竟係得3-6000、7000-14000定還是更多呢?

若然你係得三幾千貨仔,買二手就會比較適合你,因為同樣價錢多數可以買D好少少既零件同車架,而部份成車試完之後放售亦可以平手離場,即使你唔再踩或者想升級買一手亦都可以用少D無謂錢。至於多過七千以上,萬零蚊以後呢D位呢,你就可以考慮買架一手車。
Merida同Giant呢兩間廠,其實相當適合筆直唔係特別多既你。

3000-6000:基本上係呢到得到既標準答案係叫你收架Giant SCR1/SCR2,因為抵玩
7000-14000:咁上下基本上Meria既Reacto同Scultura配普通D既件都埋到單架喇
Giant既話大部份SLR同Advanced級都可以負擔到
至於你話14000以上甚至更多,你都咁向左走向右走多錢,睇到岩心水岩樣先拎上黎問下啦,不過標準答案都係「買! 」
2017-04-25 21:56:30
車廠品牌:
Argon18:https://www.argon18bike.com/en
Aster:http://www.asterbikes.com
Axman 台灣明系: http://www.axman.com.tw/
BMC:http://www.bmc-switzerland.com/int-en
Bianchi:http://www.bianchi.com/global/home/home.aspx
Basso:http://www.bassobikes.com/
Cinelli:http://cinelli.it/en
Cannondale:http://www.cannondale.com/nam_en
Canyon:https://www.canyon.com/en-hk
Carrera:http://www.carrera-podium.it/en
Cervelo:http://www.cervelo.com/en
CHAPTER2:https://www.facebook.com/CHAPTER2Bikes
Cipollini: http://www.mcipollini.com/en
Colnago:http://colnago.com/?lang=am
Cube:https://www.cube.eu/cube-bikes
Ceepo:http://www.ceepo.com
Dare:http://dare-bikes.com/?lang=zh-hant
De Rosa:http://www.derosanews.com/english
Ducati:http://www.ducati.com/index.do(Ducati 有單車,要入去搵先睇到)
Felt:http://www.feltbicycles.com
Fuji:http://www.fujibikes.com.tw
Focus:https://www.focus-bikes.com
Eddy merckx:http://www.eddymerckx.com/products
Gios:http://www.gios.it
Giant:http://www.giantcyclingworld.com/web/bikes.php
GT:http://www.gtbicycles.com
Kona:http://www.konaworld.com
KHS:http://khsbicycles.com
Kuota:http://www.kuotacycle.it/int-en
Kung攻(大陸):http://www.kungracing.com
Look:http://www.lookcycle.com/en/int.html
Lynskey:https://lynskeyperformance.com
Litespeed:http://litespeed.com
Louis Garneau:https://garneau.com/int/en
Masi:https://masibikes.com
Merida:http://www.merida.tw
Moots:http://moots.com
Nicolai:http://www.nicolai-bicycles.com/en
Orbea:https://www.orbea.com
Performer+Trigon+Bridgestone:http://www.performer.com.tw/index.html (直接入performer 果邊就ok)
PlanetX:http://www.planetx.co.uk
Pinarello:http://www.pinarello.com/en?set_language=en
Ridley:https://www.ridley-bikes.com/hk/en
Raleigh:https://www.raleighusa.com
Rikulau台灣雲豹:http://www.rikulau.com/rikulau_chinese/index.php
Schwinn:http://www.schwinn.com/
Specialized:http://www.specialized.com/hk/en-ap/home
Speedone:http://www.speedonebike.com
Speedx:https://shop.speedx.com/cn
Surly:http://surlybikes.com
Salsa:http://salsacycles.com
Santa Cruz:https://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-US
Scott:https://www.scott-sports.com/us/en/sports/bike
SlideAway:http://www.slideaway.com.tw
Stevens:http://www.stevensbikes.de/2017/index.php
Trek:https://www.trekbikes.com
Time:http://www.time-sport.com
Tommasini:http://www.tommasini.com/eng/
Wilier:http://www.wilier.com/en
VOLANDO:http://www.volando.com.tw/brand.php
2017-04-25 21:57:20
三大套件廠商:
Shimano:http://bike.shimano.com
旗下等級排列:Dura-Ace>Ultegra>105>Tiagra>Sora>Claris
其中Dura-Ace及Ultegra提供Di2電子轉波系統版本

Sram:https://www.sram.com/sram
旗下等級排列:Red>Force>Rival>Apex
其中Red將於2016年初提供E-Tap,即獨家無線轉波系統

Campagnolo:http://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en
旗下等級排列:Super Record>Record>Chorus>Athena>Veloce
其中Super Record、Record及Chorus提供EPS電子轉波系統版本

次要套件商

Mircoshift:http://www.microshift.com.tw
台灣套件商, 出三寶,可用SRAM 同SHIMANO 大盤飛輪配

Rotor:http://rotorbike.com
出左套UNO ...油壓變速加煞車..

FSA - Full Speed Ahead:http://www.fullspeedahead.com
出左SET 電變套件


網購:
CRC:http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/hk/en
Wiggle:http://www.wiggle.co.uk/cycle
單車快遞:http://www.cyclingexpress.com
Bike24:http://www.bike24.com
2017-04-25 21:57:42
引自B-LJJ_(共用) 巴打嘅落斜心得

的確冇手套 包兩層把布
同埋落斜唔駛hold 到支把實晒, hold 住下把, 前臂同地面平行, 手唔駛hold 到實, 你感覺到你隻手啱啱hi 到支把就得, 屎忽同樣道理, 雙腳俾少少力企落對踏度, 屎忽感覺到啱啱hi 到個saddle, 攞啱方向就由得架車自己去, 必要時輕輕修正, 唔駛同架車鬥力, 架車行起左有慣性, 速度越快慣性越大架車其實越定; 入彎, 雙手hold 得支把firm 少少, 依然唔係同佢鬥力, 攞正個方向, 向彎心隻腳喺12 點另一隻腳踩實6 點, 將體重放喺向彎心隻手同踩實6 點隻腳, 重心稍為向彎心移, 方法有兩個: 1. 向彎心隻腳膝頭向彎心方向擺. 2. 屎忽向彎心方向移少少成份人向彎心擺少少; 將視線集中喺你想架車去既方向, 望遠少少; 最重要係要brake 既話入彎前好俾定, 入彎後要再俾brake 既話都只限於輕輕印落去就好, 唔好揸波咁一野揸落去, 唔係你會派得好開心
試多幾次熟練左落斜就會又安全又好玩


梅子林震撚到傻狗也不屌
2017-04-25 21:58:03
各巴絲打戰車列表

戰車LIST:https://goo.gl/rNcrtq
戰車LIST加名:https://goo.gl/80rf0U
2017-04-25 22:01:12
仆街無哂defy 3貨,唔通要轉投contend 1懷抱?
2017-04-25 22:01:20
基本公路車訓練方式
(好多人有好多種唔同既訓練,唔一定死跟其中一種)

by 矮仔落樓梯

Interval Training 有好多種
但不外乎FTP Ride, Cadence Drill, Sprint Flat-out 幾種
可以mix&match
有好多都係係GCN學返黎,但可以因應自己情況同踩嘅路調整

以我用開嘅interval為例
FTP Ride 即係針對提升帶氧界限功率嘅訓練, 最簡單嘅方法係直接踩FTP,休息,FTP,休息之類嘅pattern
又或者做"Sweet Spot", 即係80%~95% FTP
另外有種叫over/under,即係90%同110% FTP 輪流做
FTP系列interval 對於爬坡能力有幫助

Cadence Drill 即係針對係相同輸出嘅下使用唔同cadence嘅能力
60,70,80,90,100,110,120,130一格格升上去,再落返黎,然後加高功率再黎過
再於唔同情況適合唔同Cadence, Cadence Drill 訓練嘅係腿肌肉力量同速度去適應唔同環境, 對平路均速相當有效

Flat-out, 或者通常叫做sprint session 係以短至10,30秒無氧衝刺同休息做間隔嘅訓練
冇咩好講,即係訓練你衝刺加速嘅能力,比賽用多

頭先提過可以mix&match, 好多時候係FTP Ride 入面都會加啲Flat-out 入去令件事冇咁悶,同埋令自己能力更加全面
又或者over/under用同一齒比但係over用高cadence, under用自然cadence之類
好多配搭好多玩法

當然唔好唔記得加warm up warm down 同記得拉筋
早兩三年踩車冇乜點練過踩平路上28都keep唔到耐
今年2月開始用interval 操車
依家唔洗點俾力就去到30以上
爬沙田坳道法藏寺上札山亭一腳到avg8kmh
雖然仲係雞腳,不過同以前比進步好多
2017-04-25 22:01:36
仆街無哂defy 3貨,唔通要轉投contend 1懷抱?

contend 千萬唔好
2017-04-25 22:04:29
吹水佬lm
2017-04-25 22:16:00
年頭有一晚踩香港島,
踩到近淺水灣先發現原來有咁多單車友夜晚環島
2017-04-25 22:17:31
仆街無哂defy 3貨,唔通要轉投contend 1懷抱?

contend 千萬唔好

何解?
2017-04-25 22:18:59
ching踩開邊?
2017-04-25 22:20:40
新po留名
2017-04-25 22:21:11
年頭有一晚踩香港島,
踩到近淺水灣先發現原來有咁多單車友夜晚環島

個陣住hall無野做試過去跟班hall友一齊環

最後都係覺得單拖踩過癮d
2017-04-25 22:26:13
年頭有一晚踩香港島,
踩到近淺水灣先發現原來有咁多單車友夜晚環島

個陣住hall無野做試過去跟班hall友一齊環

最後都係覺得單拖踩過癮d



一大班踩要大家都差唔多先好玩
尤其是半夜出車,中途等人好辛苦
2017-04-25 22:44:47
年頭有一晚踩香港島,
踩到近淺水灣先發現原來有咁多單車友夜晚環島

個陣住hall無野做試過去跟班hall友一齊環

最後都係覺得單拖踩過癮d



一大班踩要大家都差唔多先好玩
尤其是半夜出車,中途等人好辛苦

同意,等人或被人等真係好辛苦
2017-04-25 22:45:16
衣物牌子連結

Rapha: https://www.rapha.cc/
Specialized: https://www.specialized.com/
Castelli: https://www.castelli-cycling.com/
Santini SMS: https://www.santinisms.it/it/
La Passione :http://www.lapassione.cc/
DHB(Wiggle 自己牌子,好似係)http://www.wiggle.co.uk/dhb/cycle/clothing/
Assos: https://www.assos.com/
Skins: https://www.skins.net/intl
Giro: http://www.giro.com/as_en/
Ale: https://www.alebikewear.com/
Endura: http://www.endurasport.com/
Sportful: https://www.sportful.com/
Stolengoat: https://stolengoat.com/
POC: http://www.pocsports.com/eu/home/
Ornot: https://www.ornotbike.com/
Le coq sportif: http://www.lecoqsportif.com.hk/
Northwave: http://northwave.com/en/
Gore: http://www.goreapparel.com/gore-bike-wear/
Cafe Du Cycliste: http://www.cafeducycliste.com/
Altura: http://www.altura.eu/
WAST(台): https://www.facebook.com/wast.tw/
CCN: http://www.ccn-sportswear.com/en
Champion System: http://www.champ-sys.com.tw/
Evoc:http://www.evocsports.com/
Craft: http://www.craftsportswear.com/
De Marchi: http://www.demarchi.com/en/index.php
shimano:http://www.shimano.com/en/
Pearl Izumi: http://www.pearlizumi.com/
Atlas(台): http://www.atlas-sport.com.tw/
45NRTH:http://45nrth.com/ (通常大家都無需要呢個牌子,因為通常零下20度左右以下先岩用既牌子)
Zerorh+: https://www.zerorh.com/
Vaude: https://www.vaude.com/en-GB/Products/Clothing/(網站DNS好似瓜左)
Scott: https://www.scott-sports.com/
Prologo:http://www.prologotouch.com/prologoTouch/product-category/gloves/
(得手套)
HIRZL:http://www.hirzl.com/index.php/en/ (只做手套牌子)
Nalini:http://www.nalini.com/
Giant: https://www.giantcyclingworld.com/bike.php
BBB:https://bbbcycling.com/en/
Bontrager:https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/company/our_brands/bontrager/
Bianchi: http://www.bianchiusa.com/ (佢有好多唔同產品,但都只會係舖頭出現)

族繁不及備載by 鬚根
2017-04-25 22:47:48
年頭有一晚踩香港島,
踩到近淺水灣先發現原來有咁多單車友夜晚環島

個陣住hall無野做試過去跟班hall友一齊環

最後都係覺得單拖踩過癮d



一大班踩要大家都差唔多先好玩
尤其是半夜出車,中途等人好辛苦

同意,等人或被人等真係好辛苦

喺山頂等咗廿分鐘先齊人,涷到死
2017-04-25 22:52:59
衣物牌子連結

Rapha: https://www.rapha.cc/
Specialized: https://www.specialized.com/
Castelli: https://www.castelli-cycling.com/
Santini SMS: https://www.santinisms.it/it/
La Passione :http://www.lapassione.cc/
DHB(Wiggle 自己牌子,好似係)http://www.wiggle.co.uk/dhb/cycle/clothing/
Assos: https://www.assos.com/
Skins: https://www.skins.net/intl
Giro: http://www.giro.com/as_en/
Ale: https://www.alebikewear.com/
Endura: http://www.endurasport.com/
Sportful: https://www.sportful.com/
Stolengoat: https://stolengoat.com/
POC: http://www.pocsports.com/eu/home/
Ornot: https://www.ornotbike.com/
Le coq sportif: http://www.lecoqsportif.com.hk/
Northwave: http://northwave.com/en/
Gore: http://www.goreapparel.com/gore-bike-wear/
Cafe Du Cycliste: http://www.cafeducycliste.com/
Altura: http://www.altura.eu/
WAST(台): https://www.facebook.com/wast.tw/
CCN: http://www.ccn-sportswear.com/en
Champion System: http://www.champ-sys.com.tw/
Evoc:http://www.evocsports.com/
Craft: http://www.craftsportswear.com/
De Marchi: http://www.demarchi.com/en/index.php
shimano:http://www.shimano.com/en/
Pearl Izumi: http://www.pearlizumi.com/
Atlas(台): http://www.atlas-sport.com.tw/
45NRTH:http://45nrth.com/ (通常大家都無需要呢個牌子,因為通常零下20度左右以下先岩用既牌子)
Zerorh+: https://www.zerorh.com/
Vaude: https://www.vaude.com/en-GB/Products/Clothing/(網站DNS好似瓜左)
Scott: https://www.scott-sports.com/
Prologo:http://www.prologotouch.com/prologoTouch/product-category/gloves/
(得手套)
HIRZL:http://www.hirzl.com/index.php/en/ (只做手套牌子)
Nalini:http://www.nalini.com/
Giant: https://www.giantcyclingworld.com/bike.php
BBB:https://bbbcycling.com/en/
Bontrager:https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/company/our_brands/bontrager/
Bianchi: http://www.bianchiusa.com/ (佢有好多唔同產品,但都只會係舖頭出現)
Arden: http://ardenbike.com/
OSS Bike wear : http://ossbike.com/
Gioradano: http://www.giordano.bike/
Campagnolo: https://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/ (好似有D帽賣)
族繁不及備載by 鬚根
2017-04-25 23:08:07
衣物牌子連結

Rapha: https://www.rapha.cc/
Specialized: https://www.specialized.com/
Castelli: https://www.castelli-cycling.com/
Santini SMS: https://www.santinisms.it/it/
La Passione :http://www.lapassione.cc/
DHB(Wiggle 自己牌子,好似係)http://www.wiggle.co.uk/dhb/cycle/clothing/
Assos: https://www.assos.com/
Skins: https://www.skins.net/intl
Giro: http://www.giro.com/as_en/
Ale: https://www.alebikewear.com/
Endura: http://www.endurasport.com/
Sportful: https://www.sportful.com/
Stolengoat: https://stolengoat.com/
POC: http://www.pocsports.com/eu/home/
Ornot: https://www.ornotbike.com/
Le coq sportif: http://www.lecoqsportif.com.hk/
Northwave: http://northwave.com/en/
Gore: http://www.goreapparel.com/gore-bike-wear/
Cafe Du Cycliste: http://www.cafeducycliste.com/
Altura: http://www.altura.eu/
WAST(台): https://www.facebook.com/wast.tw/
CCN: http://www.ccn-sportswear.com/en
Champion System: http://www.champ-sys.com.tw/
Evoc:http://www.evocsports.com/
Craft: http://www.craftsportswear.com/
De Marchi: http://www.demarchi.com/en/index.php
shimano:http://www.shimano.com/en/
Pearl Izumi: http://www.pearlizumi.com/
Atlas(台): http://www.atlas-sport.com.tw/
45NRTH:http://45nrth.com/ (通常大家都無需要呢個牌子,因為通常零下20度左右以下先岩用既牌子)
Zerorh+: https://www.zerorh.com/
Vaude: https://www.vaude.com/en-GB/Products/Clothing/(網站DNS好似瓜左)
Scott: https://www.scott-sports.com/
Prologo:http://www.prologotouch.com/prologoTouch/product-category/gloves/
(得手套)
HIRZL:http://www.hirzl.com/index.php/en/ (只做手套牌子)
Nalini:http://www.nalini.com/
Giant: https://www.giantcyclingworld.com/bike.php
BBB:https://bbbcycling.com/en/
Bontrager:https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/company/our_brands/bontrager/
Bianchi: http://www.bianchiusa.com/ (佢有好多唔同產品,但都只會係舖頭出現)
Arden: http://ardenbike.com/
OSS Bike wear : http://ossbike.com/
Gioradano: http://www.giordano.bike/
Campagnolo: https://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/ (好似有D帽賣)
B'TWIN: http://www.btwin.com/
Jackbroad :(炒款就唔貼link了)
Monton:http://www.monton.tw/
shutt velo rapide: https://www.shuttvr.com/
Sram: https://www.sram.com/ (有出立雜野,但唔會放出黎)


族繁不及備載by 鬚根
2017-04-25 23:10:10
lm
2017-04-25 23:11:27
2017-04-25 23:15:26
Pas Normal Studios: http://www.pasnormalstudios.com/

鬚根手足點解contend唔好
2017-04-25 23:18:48
lm
2017-04-25 23:21:02
Pas Normal Studios: http://www.pasnormalstudios.com/

鬚根手足點解contend唔好

我問你幾條問題先
1你踩左車幾耐,有無接觸過RB?
2你諗住平時點踩?
3你高度如何?

Contend 我覺得唔湯唔水

一邊有SCR,另一邊有舒服既DEFY
點解唔揀大家一開始既SCR 先?
DEFY 係屬於RELAX FIT 點既長途車
CONTEND 就前DEFY 後TCR...心諗,比較怪,同埋上Giant 個官網個geometry 一向都寫到唔清唔楚
你揀定路線好d
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