【波譎雲詭】國際時事政治選舉集中理性討論區

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2017-11-29 12:57:42
Brexit: UK divorce bill offer 'worth up to 55bn euros'

The UK has offered a larger potential "divorce bill" to the EU - which could be worth between 40bn and 55bn euros (£35bn-£49bn), the BBC understands.

BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg said the offer was communicated to Brussels after last week's crucial cabinet meeting.

There has been no final agreement on a number but the larger offer was given a "broad welcome" by Brussels, she said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42161346

500億euro

EU惡過黑社會
2017-11-29 15:15:34
A year ago, France's conservatives appeared headed for the presidency. Now the French right is more fractured than at almost any point in the modern-day Fifth Republic, leaving one clear winner: President Emmanuel Macron, a centrist.

Over the weekend, a group of Macron-friendly lawmakers cemented their split from the centre-right The Republicans party, forming a new party, Agir (Act). In a further blow to The Republicans, three other party heavyweights defected to Macron's Republic on the Move party.

This comes at a time the far-right National Front party is riven by internal divisions and fighting a new rival movement set up by one of its own. In two weeks, The Republicans will elect a new party chief. The task of whoever wins will be to heal divisions and rebuild a party blown apart by Macron's election triumph.
2017-11-29 17:16:01
The European chief Brexit negotiator on Wednesday said he hoped to report to the EU in coming days about an agreement with Britain on the financial terms of its withdrawal from the bloc.
2017-11-29 20:16:09
The European chief Brexit negotiator on Wednesday said he hoped to report to the EU in coming days about an agreement with Britain on the financial terms of its withdrawal from the bloc.

錢銀野都係比較易搞個堆item
好想知ireland個border點搞
2017-11-29 20:36:32
The European chief Brexit negotiator on Wednesday said he hoped to report to the EU in coming days about an agreement with Britain on the financial terms of its withdrawal from the bloc.

錢銀野都係比較易搞個堆item
好想知ireland個border點搞

我相信最後會有妥協方案,例如一地兩檢
2017-11-29 22:28:15
Bosnian Croat leader Slobodan Praljak dies after taking 'poison' in UN war crimes court, Croatian media reports

Ex-Bosnian Croat General Slobodan Praljak drank what he said was poison after the Hague war crimes tribunal upheld his sentence. Croatian media subsequently reported that Praljak died in the hospital.

http://www.dw.com/en/bosnian-croat-leader-slobodan-praljak-dies-after-taking-poison-in-un-war-crimes-court-croatian-media-reports/a-41576770
2017-11-29 22:30:39
Bosnian Croat leader Slobodan Praljak dies after taking 'poison' in UN war crimes court, Croatian media reports

Ex-Bosnian Croat General Slobodan Praljak drank what he said was poison after the Hague war crimes tribunal upheld his sentence. Croatian media subsequently reported that Praljak died in the hospital.

http://www.dw.com/en/bosnian-croat-leader-slobodan-praljak-dies-after-taking-poison-in-un-war-crimes-court-croatian-media-reports/a-41576770

WTF
2017-11-29 22:51:07
Bosnian Croat leader Slobodan Praljak dies after taking 'poison' in UN war crimes court, Croatian media reports

Ex-Bosnian Croat General Slobodan Praljak drank what he said was poison after the Hague war crimes tribunal upheld his sentence. Croatian media subsequently reported that Praljak died in the hospital.

http://www.dw.com/en/bosnian-croat-leader-slobodan-praljak-dies-after-taking-poison-in-un-war-crimes-court-croatian-media-reports/a-41576770

WTF


好有紐倫堡大審判訊的感覺
2017-11-30 08:29:28
The digital currency dropped more than 18 percent from a record high of $11,388.33 to current levels around $9,292 on Wednesday, according to CoinDesk.

The former chief economist of the World Bank wants bitcoin banned.

"Bitcoin is successful only because of its potential for circumvention, lack of oversight," Joseph Stigliz, currently a professor at Columbia University, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television today, as the cryptocurrency reached new all-time highs this week.
2017-11-30 09:18:50
The White House is defending President Trump's retweets of videos from a fringe British nationalist group that purportedly show Muslims engaging in acts of violence.

https://abcn.ws/2AiJuml
2017-11-30 09:50:42
Bosnian Croat leader Slobodan Praljak dies after taking 'poison' in UN war crimes court, Croatian media reports

Ex-Bosnian Croat General Slobodan Praljak drank what he said was poison after the Hague war crimes tribunal upheld his sentence. Croatian media subsequently reported that Praljak died in the hospital.

http://www.dw.com/en/bosnian-croat-leader-slobodan-praljak-dies-after-taking-poison-in-un-war-crimes-court-croatian-media-reports/a-41576770

WTF


好有紐倫堡大審判訊的感覺

都唔知嬲定笑好
正義被彰顯定undermine
2017-11-30 12:37:49
The White House is defending President Trump's retweets of videos from a fringe British nationalist group that purportedly show Muslims engaging in acts of violence.

https://abcn.ws/2AiJuml


又係不能說的事實
侵侵retweets果d全部係發生緊唔係抹黑,一或係因為佢retweet果個人既身份問題 如果係中立團體叫大家關注穆斯林犯罪問題會唔會無咁大反應呢
2017-11-30 12:47:10
The White House is defending President Trump's retweets of videos from a fringe British nationalist group that purportedly show Muslims engaging in acts of violence.

https://abcn.ws/2AiJuml


又係不能說的事實
侵侵retweets果d全部係發生緊唔係抹黑,一或係因為佢retweet果個人既身份問題 如果係中立團體叫大家關注穆斯林犯罪問題會唔會無咁大反應呢

[img]圖片網址[/img]
係左膠心目中, 穆斯林做乜都唔叫犯罪, 係文化差異姐
2017-11-30 13:01:46
The White House is defending President Trump's retweets of videos from a fringe British nationalist group that purportedly show Muslims engaging in acts of violence.

https://abcn.ws/2AiJuml


又係不能說的事實
侵侵retweets果d全部係發生緊唔係抹黑,一或係因為佢retweet果個人既身份問題 如果係中立團體叫大家關注穆斯林犯罪問題會唔會無咁大反應呢

[img]圖片網址[/img]
係左膠心目中, 穆斯林做乜都唔叫犯罪, 係文化差異姐

BBC果啲即時label做 anti Islam video 我 片又係啲Islam 自己拍,內容係真實發生佢地自己做,冇編輯,講到propaganda video 到咁
2017-11-30 13:08:32
The White House is defending President Trump's retweets of videos from a fringe British nationalist group that purportedly show Muslims engaging in acts of violence.

https://abcn.ws/2AiJuml


又係不能說的事實
侵侵retweets果d全部係發生緊唔係抹黑,一或係因為佢retweet果個人既身份問題 如果係中立團體叫大家關注穆斯林犯罪問題會唔會無咁大反應呢

[img]圖片網址[/img]
係左膠心目中, 穆斯林做乜都唔叫犯罪, 係文化差異姐

BBC果啲即時label做 anti Islam video 我 片又係啲Islam 自己拍,內容係真實發生佢地自己做,冇編輯,講到propaganda video 到咁

其實無咩意思
成日抹黑donald trump咪只會reinforce佢班支持者
白左永遠覺得呢啲係文化差異,白人係原罪
2017-11-30 14:24:04
The White House is defending President Trump's retweets of videos from a fringe British nationalist group that purportedly show Muslims engaging in acts of violence.

https://abcn.ws/2AiJuml


又係不能說的事實
侵侵retweets果d全部係發生緊唔係抹黑,一或係因為佢retweet果個人既身份問題 如果係中立團體叫大家關注穆斯林犯罪問題會唔會無咁大反應呢

[img]圖片網址[/img]
係左膠心目中, 穆斯林做乜都唔叫犯罪, 係文化差異姐

BBC果啲即時label做 anti Islam video 我 片又係啲Islam 自己拍,內容係真實發生佢地自己做,冇編輯,講到propaganda video 到咁

其實無咩意思
成日抹黑donald trump咪只會reinforce佢班支持者
白左永遠覺得呢啲係文化差異,白人係原罪


最主要係British First唔係好似UKIP只係反移民,而且係會有直接行動,例如闖入清真寺等,而主要成員都有因hate speech而定罪。而侵侵自己講過話retweet就係endorsement 等的時候,當然會引人關注。

同時荷蘭政府已經澄清咗其中有一段片

// The credibility of the last video was immediately undermined when the the Dutch embassy in the US said the perpetrator of the violent act in the video was born and raised in the Netherlands. //

而且部分前成員離開National First 後成立National Action 並被英國政府視為恐怖組織都令人對BF抱有更大反感,雖然兩者不一定有關。

其實都係身份問題,佢係一個普通有錢佬鳩up係一回時,係美國總統又係另一回事
2017-11-30 14:33:11
The White House is defending President Trump's retweets of videos from a fringe British nationalist group that purportedly show Muslims engaging in acts of violence.

https://abcn.ws/2AiJuml


又係不能說的事實
侵侵retweets果d全部係發生緊唔係抹黑,一或係因為佢retweet果個人既身份問題 如果係中立團體叫大家關注穆斯林犯罪問題會唔會無咁大反應呢

[img]圖片網址[/img]
係左膠心目中, 穆斯林做乜都唔叫犯罪, 係文化差異姐

BBC果啲即時label做 anti Islam video 我 片又係啲Islam 自己拍,內容係真實發生佢地自己做,冇編輯,講到propaganda video 到咁

其實無咩意思
成日抹黑donald trump咪只會reinforce佢班支持者
白左永遠覺得呢啲係文化差異,白人係原罪


最主要係British First唔係好似UKIP只係反移民,而且係會有直接行動,例如闖入清真寺等,而主要成員都有因hate speech而定罪。而侵侵自己講過話retweet就係endorsement 等的時候,當然會引人關注。

同時荷蘭政府已經澄清咗其中有一段片

// The credibility of the last video was immediately undermined when the the Dutch embassy in the US said the perpetrator of the violent act in the video was born and raised in the Netherlands. //

而且部分前成員離開National First 後成立National Action 並被英國政府視為恐怖組織都令人對BF抱有更大反感,雖然兩者不一定有關。

其實都係身份問題,佢係一個普通有錢佬鳩up係一回時,係美國總統又係另一回事


咁若果侵侵retweet既都係muslim犯罪內容,但原post個身份唔係好似BF咁敏感會唔會無咁大件事呢?
2017-11-30 14:37:10
沙地都公開處決判教、通姦、同性戀者,如果引述會唔會係racist
2017-11-30 14:42:27
The White House is defending President Trump's retweets of videos from a fringe British nationalist group that purportedly show Muslims engaging in acts of violence.

https://abcn.ws/2AiJuml


又係不能說的事實
侵侵retweets果d全部係發生緊唔係抹黑,一或係因為佢retweet果個人既身份問題 如果係中立團體叫大家關注穆斯林犯罪問題會唔會無咁大反應呢

[img]圖片網址[/img]
係左膠心目中, 穆斯林做乜都唔叫犯罪, 係文化差異姐

BBC果啲即時label做 anti Islam video 我 片又係啲Islam 自己拍,內容係真實發生佢地自己做,冇編輯,講到propaganda video 到咁

其實無咩意思
成日抹黑donald trump咪只會reinforce佢班支持者
白左永遠覺得呢啲係文化差異,白人係原罪


最主要係British First唔係好似UKIP只係反移民,而且係會有直接行動,例如闖入清真寺等,而主要成員都有因hate speech而定罪。而侵侵自己講過話retweet就係endorsement 等的時候,當然會引人關注。

同時荷蘭政府已經澄清咗其中有一段片

// The credibility of the last video was immediately undermined when the the Dutch embassy in the US said the perpetrator of the violent act in the video was born and raised in the Netherlands. //

而且部分前成員離開National First 後成立National Action 並被英國政府視為恐怖組織都令人對BF抱有更大反感,雖然兩者不一定有關。

其實都係身份問題,佢係一個普通有錢佬鳩up係一回時,係美國總統又係另一回事


咁若果侵侵retweet既都係muslim犯罪內容,但原post個身份唔係好似BF咁敏感會唔會無咁大件事呢?

如果原po唔係BF,應該就唔會用咁重字眼既,但都係要回歸根本
因為最根本既問題就係,條片講既係咪事實先
如果係事實,你可以話以donald trump既身分唔應該retweet呢種片
但依家...
2017-11-30 14:44:15
The White House is defending President Trump's retweets of videos from a fringe British nationalist group that purportedly show Muslims engaging in acts of violence.

https://abcn.ws/2AiJuml


又係不能說的事實
侵侵retweets果d全部係發生緊唔係抹黑,一或係因為佢retweet果個人既身份問題 如果係中立團體叫大家關注穆斯林犯罪問題會唔會無咁大反應呢

[img]圖片網址[/img]
係左膠心目中, 穆斯林做乜都唔叫犯罪, 係文化差異姐

BBC果啲即時label做 anti Islam video 我 片又係啲Islam 自己拍,內容係真實發生佢地自己做,冇編輯,講到propaganda video 到咁

其實無咩意思
成日抹黑donald trump咪只會reinforce佢班支持者
白左永遠覺得呢啲係文化差異,白人係原罪


最主要係British First唔係好似UKIP只係反移民,而且係會有直接行動,例如闖入清真寺等,而主要成員都有因hate speech而定罪。而侵侵自己講過話retweet就係endorsement 等的時候,當然會引人關注。

同時荷蘭政府已經澄清咗其中有一段片

// The credibility of the last video was immediately undermined when the the Dutch embassy in the US said the perpetrator of the violent act in the video was born and raised in the Netherlands. //

而且部分前成員離開National First 後成立National Action 並被英國政府視為恐怖組織都令人對BF抱有更大反感,雖然兩者不一定有關。

其實都係身份問題,佢係一個普通有錢佬鳩up係一回時,係美國總統又係另一回事


咁若果侵侵retweet既都係muslim犯罪內容,但原post個身份唔係好似BF咁敏感會唔會無咁大件事呢?


只少May姐唔洗出聲,唔會涉及另一個國家已經係另一回事,只少BBC唔洗十幾個post講呢單野。

如果佢retweet Milo的話,美國內部應該唔會差好遠,只係自己國內野
2017-11-30 15:32:48


又係不能說的事實
侵侵retweets果d全部係發生緊唔係抹黑,一或係因為佢retweet果個人既身份問題 如果係中立團體叫大家關注穆斯林犯罪問題會唔會無咁大反應呢

[img]圖片網址[/img]
係左膠心目中, 穆斯林做乜都唔叫犯罪, 係文化差異姐

BBC果啲即時label做 anti Islam video 我 片又係啲Islam 自己拍,內容係真實發生佢地自己做,冇編輯,講到propaganda video 到咁

其實無咩意思
成日抹黑donald trump咪只會reinforce佢班支持者
白左永遠覺得呢啲係文化差異,白人係原罪


最主要係British First唔係好似UKIP只係反移民,而且係會有直接行動,例如闖入清真寺等,而主要成員都有因hate speech而定罪。而侵侵自己講過話retweet就係endorsement 等的時候,當然會引人關注。

同時荷蘭政府已經澄清咗其中有一段片

// The credibility of the last video was immediately undermined when the the Dutch embassy in the US said the perpetrator of the violent act in the video was born and raised in the Netherlands. //

而且部分前成員離開National First 後成立National Action 並被英國政府視為恐怖組織都令人對BF抱有更大反感,雖然兩者不一定有關。

其實都係身份問題,佢係一個普通有錢佬鳩up係一回時,係美國總統又係另一回事


咁若果侵侵retweet既都係muslim犯罪內容,但原post個身份唔係好似BF咁敏感會唔會無咁大件事呢?

如果原po唔係BF,應該就唔會用咁重字眼既,但都係要回歸根本
因為最根本既問題就係,條片講既係咪事實先
如果係事實,你可以話以donald trump既身分唔應該retweet呢種片
但依家...

如果侵係特登RT黎等人注意英國而家文字獄幾勁我覺得係成功,俾佢RT果個女人



言論自由起Islam面前係含撚
2017-11-30 16:29:40


又係不能說的事實
侵侵retweets果d全部係發生緊唔係抹黑,一或係因為佢retweet果個人既身份問題 如果係中立團體叫大家關注穆斯林犯罪問題會唔會無咁大反應呢

[img]圖片網址[/img]
係左膠心目中, 穆斯林做乜都唔叫犯罪, 係文化差異姐

BBC果啲即時label做 anti Islam video 我 片又係啲Islam 自己拍,內容係真實發生佢地自己做,冇編輯,講到propaganda video 到咁

其實無咩意思
成日抹黑donald trump咪只會reinforce佢班支持者
白左永遠覺得呢啲係文化差異,白人係原罪


最主要係British First唔係好似UKIP只係反移民,而且係會有直接行動,例如闖入清真寺等,而主要成員都有因hate speech而定罪。而侵侵自己講過話retweet就係endorsement 等的時候,當然會引人關注。

同時荷蘭政府已經澄清咗其中有一段片

// The credibility of the last video was immediately undermined when the the Dutch embassy in the US said the perpetrator of the violent act in the video was born and raised in the Netherlands. //

而且部分前成員離開National First 後成立National Action 並被英國政府視為恐怖組織都令人對BF抱有更大反感,雖然兩者不一定有關。

其實都係身份問題,佢係一個普通有錢佬鳩up係一回時,係美國總統又係另一回事


咁若果侵侵retweet既都係muslim犯罪內容,但原post個身份唔係好似BF咁敏感會唔會無咁大件事呢?


只少May姐唔洗出聲,唔會涉及另一個國家已經係另一回事,只少BBC唔洗十幾個post講呢單野。

如果佢retweet Milo的話,美國內部應該唔會差好遠,只係自己國內野


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老實講真係普京最開心
搞散北約同歐盟
打烏克蘭已成真
有乜事打埋波的三國
再連橫東歐幾個疑歐政府
佢盤棋係捉得幾靚
2017-11-30 22:00:12
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The Chinese Envoy, who just returned from North Korea, seems to have had no impact on Little Rocket Man. Hard to believe his people, and the military, put up with living in such horrible conditions. Russia and China condemned the launch.
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