白兵係咪已經走火入魔

frankly佢講嘅嘢冇咩重大錯誤，但最大問題係避重就輕
攞哂最嚇到人嘅side effects出嚟講，好處隻字不提
warfarin嗰part更加係攞嚟講，如果真係有醫生開warfarin嚟醫 hypertension佢可以考慮下向醫委會投訴

書恕我冇咁得閒睇，但就嗰份paper可以講兩句
(Blood Pressure Changes in 1610 Subjects With and Without Antihypertensive Medication During Long-Term Fasting)

佢嘅論據可以證明斷食 / 減肥有用，而現代醫學確實support呢樣嘢
lifestyle modifications同pharmacotherapy不嬲係相輔相成
但佢講到食藥有問題，「唔搵原因就降低佢一定奶嘢」，就係偏頗

最新嘅WHO pharmacological treatment of hypertension guideline recommendations係綜合咗14份systematic reviews所得出嘅結論
"The anticipated benefits of a lower blood pressure (BP) target (140 SBP in the general population and 130 SBP in a high-risk population) were reduction in mortality, cardiovascular mortality, stroke, myocardial infarction (MI) and heart failure events. The anticipated harms were mostly not serious side-effects, and some were a surrogate outcome, such as rise in creatinine that may not be clinically relevant. On average, treatment was associated with a reduction in deaths and cardiovascular events that ranged from 5 to 10/1000 and harms that ranged from 20 to 30/1000. The benefits were a reduction in severe events with significant morbidity and mortality whereas the harms were mostly not clinically significant."
用「奶嘢」嚟形容呢啲benefits，鬧佢痴線簡直係understatement

做healthcare / 想普及healthcare information嘅，how you present同what you present一樣重要
要確保病人make an informed decision，避重就輕同misinformation係差唔多咁仆街

不過有兩點值得講
1. 有部分醫生唔夠強調lifestyle嘅重要性，冇urge某啲有modifiable risk factors嘅病人去做食藥以外嘅嘢，確實唔理想

2. 藥同lifestyles唔會one-size-fits-all，醫生同病人喺能力範圍內應該試唔同嘅方法，睇下邊個最適合（當然香港夠唔夠資源搞係另一個問題）

咁疫苗咪科學家、醫生整出嚟，你打左幾針？

質疑專業人士有咩問題？ 疫苗研發時間過短、有後遺症、後遺症嚴重過肺炎，大家有目共睹。

白兵的確唔係醫生或相關專業，咁有人唔信無可厚非。但講來講去點解你唔直接話白兵錯咩？ 你直接反駁白兵咪得囉，問題係成個post 真係好少人反駁內容。

咁白兵引用嘅論文有問題，你一係指出佢嘅論文有咩問題，一係引用另外嘅論文反駁，但你無咁做，人哋咪覺得你9up.

樓主pin this， 追左咁耐post，終於有人議事論事。

食雙氧水d friend

白佢老母臭閪啦
白卡就白卡啦

好少人反駁即係有，但你當睇唔到

我就好簡單，信乜醫生都好過信地產狗，唔洗講其他。如果阿豬阿狗鳩up一句就要有人聽，咁個世界仲洗運作？

就算毒針係科學家整出嚟，都唔代表信佢然後出事嘅機率會大過信地產狗，就係咁簡單。根本冇人有時間同能力去鑽研晒所有人類現階段嘅知識，信專家依然係最合理嘅做法。

你有冇學話logic㗎？而家白卡兵＆fans係argument同邏輯有問題，都唔valid 仲講乜鬼fact

講真第一眼見撚到佢條撚樣,個撚款咁柒樣已經覺得唔可信
你見邊個醫生個樣會打扮成咁?

呢個留言都咁多負評

請指出白兵唔嘅fact、 argument、同邏輯有咩問題。

如果你唔答，我就完全封鎖你，費事再同你傾，你講嘅嘢好無質素。

未講完，唔好講到科學家&醫生係一個個體，其中有人研發疫苗 有人整毒針，但仲有好多嘅專業係醫其他病，有毒針就講到醫生都唔撚睇，唔屌你弱智屌邊個？

輪都未輪到地產狗喺醫學方面有話語權啦

白兵有句話高血壓本身係無問題，個成因先係最重要呢句本身已經錯，高血壓本身就算搵唔到成因都會對血管造成傷害，佢成條片都係邏輯混亂

快啲block

我前面已經用咗例子去講佢嘅邏輯有乜問題， 你條白痴仔連argument 都唔知係乜嘅話我都唔想教你，我唔係老師

in case 仲有柒頭入嚟唔追post搏屌

很好呢，良好討論風氣，針對事而唔針對人。

光之繼承者我求左佢好耐，佢都唔肯答我白兵講嘅fact, argument 同logic 有咩問題，我唯有完全封鎖，耳根清靜。

雖然佢質疑白兵有冇專業資格講健康問題係合理，但佢無辦法就白兵嘅內容反駁

依條白兵真心仆街，上面巴打quote哂文獻話佢引用錯野真心respect🫡 其實好多上年紀既人，或者年青人都係齋睇唔會考究個fact, 有病既人聽完信左佢就真係死得人多

佢係施生d馬仔？

最仆街係有人想fact check都無從入手

你哋班傻鳩以為啲醫生一定啱？佢哋都係睇吓你嘅症狀去推測你咩病咋 如果你有啲rare啲或者複雜啲嘅病佢哋都唔撚識睇呀 個個醫生都係一個部門推俾另一個㗎咋 或者就係求其開住啲藥吊住你條命先 你有事入急症先會理吓你㗎

只係因為大部分人睇親醫生都係傷風感冒 搞唔著你 你先唔知原來西醫咁撚流 同咁撚無醫德 勁嘅醫生一係開clinic 一係就大粒嘢 你以為日日有得睇？有錢先有得睇㗎 其實都就嚟同大陸睇齊香港人對呢行可唔可以唔好咁有驕傲感

有病唔信醫生信youtuber
依d人死咗仲好

得罪講句 醫生只係藥廠二流sales.

點會無從入手
求其舉個例，小麥(Gluten) 對糖尿病嘅影響
是但搵篇Meta-Analysis 都得
https://www.google.com/search?q=gluten%20t2dm%20meta%20analysis&tbm=

Low-certainty evidence suggested that a lower compared with a higher gluten intake may be associated with a slightly increased risk to develop type 2 diabetes - a major cardiovascular risk factor.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35199850/

呢條先啱