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2019-10-16 13:38:44
OP: https://lihkg.com/thread/1645071/page/1

陳彥霖背景+失蹤過程整理/Background info of Chan Yin Lam + How she went missing

by 秋來秋去/Autumn comes, Autumn goes


單以全裸呢一點已經可以排除自殺可能
所以呢個post會以他殺方向調查
Just the fact that the body was found naked is enough to disprove that it wasn't a suicide case,
so this post will investigate this case as a homicide.



根據FB 陳彥霖應該係住元朗 曾就讀位於元朗既博愛醫院鄧佩瓊紀念中學 而家讀緊位於將軍澳既VTC轄下青年學院(15歲可能讀到中三輟學轉去讀?) 並且標示為戀愛中
According to her Facebook profile, Chan Yin Lam lived in Yuen Long, and studied at Pok Oi Hospital Tang Pui King Memorial College in Tuen Mun. She was studying at VTC Youth College in Tseung Kwan O (perhaps enrolled after F.3 at the age of 15?), and indicated that she was in a relationship



有幾個post係關於示威活動
There were a few posts about protests.



再睇番失蹤過程 佢係美孚最後岀現 並聲稱番緊屋企(元朗) 但因為不明原因番左去將軍澳學校campus 並且留低左電話身分證學生證
Looking at how she went missing, she was last seen in Mei Foo, and claimed to be going home (to Yuen Long). But for reasons unknown, she returned to the VTC Youth College Tseung Kwan O campus and left her mobile, HKID card, and student ID behind.

由此可以推斷 佢離開campus時只有兩種可能性 1.打算短暫離開 連電話都唔帶 2.離開並非岀於自願
We can deduce that there can only be two reasons why she left the campus:
1. She intended to be away only temporarily, so there is no need for her to bring along her mobile. OR 2. She did not leave voluntarily.



再睇番campus既地理位置 佢位於將軍澳半山區既翠林邨 距離寶琳等市區都有一段距離 要用小巴岀入 而發現屍體地點為油塘魔鬼山對岀海面(唔肯定係咪大紅圈果個area 只係大概位置)
Then we look at where the campus is located - at Tsui Lam Estate, the mid-levels of Tseung Kwan O. It is quite a distance from urban areas such as Po Lam, and is only accessible by minibus. They discovered her body in the sea opposite Devil's Peak in Yau Tong (approximately in the area marked by the bigger red circle)



而將軍澳最接近海既地方為將軍澳站同康城之間海皮(小紅圈) 距離campus係有相當距離
The body of water closest to Tseung Kwan O lies between the TKO and LOHAS Park MTR stations (see small red circle), which are both quite a distance away from the campus.

做個小小總結
Allow me to summarise.

陳彥霖因為不明原因而無番屋企而去左將軍澳 並可能於非自願情況下離開campus 而落水位置可能位於將軍澳/康城 之後隨水流漂到油塘 落水時間方面未能肯定 但有可能並非於19日當日
For unknown reasons, Chan went to TKO without heading home as she had said, and she likely left the campus against her will. The spot where she went in the waters would have been in TKO/LOHAS Park. The current might have carried her body to Yau Tong. The exact time the body went into the water cannot be ascertained, but it might not have been on the 19th.

要解開謎團 我建議有幾個突破點
To solve the puzzle, I have a few breakthrough points

1. 佢fb標示為戀愛中 係咪有男朋友? 佢男朋友有可能知道佢番學校既原因
1. Chan Yin Lam's Facebook profile says she's in a relationship, so does she have a boyfriend? He might know why she went to the campus.

2. 學校campus cctv會唔會見到佢係咩情況下離開?有咩人同佢一齊離開?
2. Could the CCTVs on-campus record her as she was leaving the premises? Did someone go with her?

3. 鑒於campus地理位置 佢離開時好大機會係乘坐交通工具 如果佢唔係俾人夾上私家車 而係自己離開 咁佢好大機會係坐小巴/巴士去寶琳市區
3. Based on the geographical location of the campus, it's likely that Chan Yin Lam left by taking public transportation. If she was not forced into a private vehicle, then it's very likely that she took either a minibus or bus to Po Lam.

BTW 唔係想吹查案風 請幫手推行動post 但係今次呢單真係有調查既必要 暫時未見到有證據證明佢曾經被捕 未必關popo事 但係點都好 幫同路人絲打搵番真相
BTW, I am not instigating investigation. But please help push this post as this case really needs investigating. So far, we don't have any evidence pointing towards an arrest so it might not concern the police. But anyway, let's help unearth the truth for our sister.

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Disclaimers:
1. Views expressed in OP do not necessarily reflect ours. We try our best to curate and translate trending contents on #LIHKG for you.
2019-10-16 13:45:49
OP: https://lih.kg/1654893

[有圖] 陳彥霖事件補充/[With pic] Additional info to Chan Yin Lam incident

by 可琳/Ho Lam


借ac出post
利申 本人熱愛生命 不會自殺 誓要搵出真相
我所講既全部都係已經fc同我所知道既事實
Posted with borrowed account
Disclaimer: I enjoy my life. I won't commit suicide. I swear to find out the truth.
Everything I say has been fact-checked.

8月11日
陳彥霖出咗旺角參與811之後失蹤
直到9月12日蒲頭 佢話自己入咗一個月女童院
出到黎之後話想過新生活 所以開多一個新電話同ig
11 Aug
Chrissy Chan Yin Lam joined the 811 march in Mongkok and has been missing since then
She appeared on 12 September and claimed that she had been sent to Children and Juvenile Home for 1 month
Upon release, she started using a new phone number and created a new Instagram account, explaining that she would like to start a new life.

9月19日
第3日返學 佢放學之後同一班同學搭到去美孚站
同行同學話佢收到學校電話 話佢漏咗電話係學校
佢就沿線搭返去調景嶺返學校拎電話
當日佢約咗另一個朋友係9月20日 係佢上完庭後見面
但之後就再搵唔到佢
19 Sep
The third day of school. After school, she travelled to Mei Foo Station with a group of schoolmates
Her schoolmates said, she had received a phone call from the school, saying that she left her phone at school
She then took the same MTR line to Tiu Keng Leng to retrieve her phone from the school
On that day (19 Sep), she told another friend that they will be meeting each other on 20 Sep after going to the court
But then no one has seen her afterwards

9月20日
之前佢媽咪去咗旅行 20號先返到黎香港先知唔見咗個女
就開始搵
20 Sep
Chan's mother was previously on vacation. It was on the 20th that she realised that her daughter had gone missing.
She then started looking for Chan.

9月21日
佢屋企人出咗尋人啟事 亦有朋友去佢會出現既地方搵佢
同日有報夢巴開post
21 Sep
Her family posted a missing person notice, and her friends searched in areas that she frequently appear.
On the same day, a LIHKGer created a post about his "dream"

9月22日
發現浮屍
22 Sep
A body was found floating in the water.

9月26日
佢屋企人收到警方通知話浮屍證實係陳彥霖叫佢屋企人去認屍 同時警方既報告出咗話冇性侵痕跡同自殺冇可疑
同日佢屋企人提出要求再解剖
26 Sep
The police notified her family that the body floating in the water on 22 Sep was found to be Chrissy Chan, and they are asked to identify the corpse. At the same time, the police report stated no indications lead to possible raping, and that no suspicious circumstances occurred around her death. Hence, the police dismissed it as a suicide.
Her family demanded another post-mortem examination on the same day.

9月27日
再次解剖 因為有人話佢曾經吸毒 所以會驗埋毒理
解剖完就放咗係殮房
27 Sep
Another autopsy was carried out. Apparently, Chan had prior experiences with drugs, so her body had to be subjected to a post-mortem toxicology examination.
Her body was then stored in the mortuary.
10月10日
約咗靈堂火化
屋企人係殮房拎取遺體後直接上出殯車去火化

其他資料可以睇其他巴絲既整合post

我同陳彥霖素未謀面 只係覺得15歲既佢的起心肝想改變想過新生活既時候 慘遭毒手好可惜
唔想佢死得不明不白
一個人既力量真係好有限
尤其是係背後有好多人百般阻撓想真相石沉大海
我地更加唔可以放棄

陳彥霖只得十五歲

最後狗狗既相少不免



給陳媽媽: 睇你既反應我知你好愛彥霖 我唔清楚你係比人㩒聲定係有咩難言之隱
但事件發展到咁樣已經冇可能再低調處理
人死不能復生希望你節哀順變
但我亦都希望可以查出真相令你女兒得到安息

我想係尋求真相既同時確保到佢身邊既人都平安

以上係我所知道既事 希望真相可以盡快水落石出
而小妹妹亦都可以安息
2019-10-16 13:52:51
(Editor's note: Oops. Pressed the post button too soon before I finished pasting the translated texts over. So here we go again. Sorry for the confusion )

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10月10日
約咗靈堂火化
屋企人係殮房拎取遺體後直接上出殯車去火化
10 Oct
Booked cremation at mourning hall
The cadaver was loaded onto a hearse to be brought to the crematorium directly after her family had identified the body

其他資料可以睇其他巴絲既整合post
Other details can be found in posts by other brothers and sisters.

我同陳彥霖素未謀面 只係覺得15歲既佢的起心肝想改變想過新生活既時候 慘遭毒手好可惜
唔想佢死得不明不白
一個人既力量真係好有限
尤其是係背後有好多人百般阻撓想真相石沉大海
我地更加唔可以放棄
I don't personally know Chrissy, but I feel very sorry for this fifteen-year-old girl, who was killed just after she had decided to turn her life around for the better.
I don't want her death left unsolved.
One person has limited strength,
especially when forces behind closed doors are trying to hide the truth like a rock sinking into the abyss.
But this is exactly why we can't give up.

陳彥霖只得十五歲
Chrissy was only 15 years old.

最後狗狗既相少不免



給陳媽媽: 睇你既反應我知你好愛彥霖 我唔清楚你係比人㩒聲定係有咩難言之隱
但事件發展到咁樣已經冇可能再低調處理
人死不能復生希望你節哀順變
但我亦都希望可以查出真相令你女兒得到安息
To Chan's mother: From your reaction, I know that you loved Yin Lam a lot. I am not sure whether you have been asked to keep quiet, or if you have other reasons as to why you can't speak out,
But we can't simply keep this under wraps after everything that has happened.
Please accept our sincere condolences. Although there is no way to bring the dead back to life,
I do have faith that the truth will come out, and that your daughter will eventually rest in peace.

我想係尋求真相既同時確保到佢身邊既人都平安
All I want is the truth, and that people who were close to Chrissy will be safe.

以上係我所知道既事 希望真相可以盡快水落石出
而小妹妹亦都可以安息
Above are all the facts that I know, and I hope that the truth can be revealed as soon as possible
So that little Yin Lam can rest in peace

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Disclaimers:
1. Views expressed in OP do not necessarily reflect ours. We try our best to curate and translate trending contents on #LIHKG for you.
2. We are not associated with the LIHKG forum in whichever ways. We are a volunteer group whose operation is completely independent of the LIHKG forum.
2019-10-16 18:44:52
支持
2019-10-16 23:45:10
Pish
2019-10-17 13:21:18
根本淋病月匪用ge 方法就係要你暴力衝擊d 龜!啲龜先可以打柒你上報紙,你睇完又出去打尻d 龜!有藉口暗啞底戒嚴同宵禁,國際就覺得香港人暴力!人權法先有機會打得甩!
激將法呀各位,冷靜呀真係,龜唔係唔收拾,只係未係時候。淋病等地,你地打死佢都無意義,一定要制裁佢地,慢慢睇住佢地比美國佬玩弄先過癮!要佢地生生世世都比人唾棄,對死左ge 咁多個義士有意義。再講美國佬要搞尻支那,你估共產黨擺得耐? 到時你地將佢點樣,根本全香港無人會反對!
It's Bloody Carrie's strategy to turn you to violence. Only if you do so, they can put photos of you being beaten on newspaper, make you feel angry, and beat the dogs back! Then, they will have enough reasons to launch martial law and curfew.
Hey, this is the use of reverse psychology. Stay calm, please. I'm not suggesting us to leave the dogs alone, but just the right timing hasn't come yet. It's meaningless to beat up people like Bloody Carrie and her slaves. We must punish them by imposing sanctions on them. We must watch how the Americans would punish them! They have to be shamed in generations to come, and then we can pay tribute to those martyrs. If Americans are to take revenge on China, how long do you think the CCP can stay? By then, no one in Hong Kong will object to whatever actions you do to the CCP.

香港人要學識記仇,唔可以再咁善忘,依家好多兄弟為香港而犧牲,你地再咁中計,義士們會返黎屌柒你地!清醒呀年輕人!
Hongkongers have to learn to bear grudges. We can't be forgetful. There are a lot of brothers who sacrificed themselves for Hong Kong. If you trapped yourselves into their tricks, the martyrs would curse on you! Wake up, youngsters!

唔好中計
要令人權法通過
警犬綠龜遲d 先收拾佢地
遊行集會要非暴力
裝修都要睇時機
反支反共要鬥智鬥力
大家記低所有死左嘅兄弟
過左人權法再幫佢地報仇
香港人加油!
Don't trapped yourselves
We have to let the Act pass
We can revenge on the dogs later
Demonstrations and assemblies have to be nonviolent
We have to choose a right timing for refurbishment
Both courage and wisdom are needed for anti-CCP and anti-China campaigns
We must remember all the brothers who died for us
When the Act is passed, we should take revenge for them
Hongkongers, fight on!

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Disclaimers:
1. Views expressed in OP do not necessarily reflect ours. We try our best to curate and translate trending contents on #LIHKG for you.
2. We are not associated with the LIHKG forum in whichever ways. We are a volunteer group whose operation is completely independent of the LIHKG forum.
2019-10-17 13:23:49
2019-10-17 13:31:56
OP: https://lihkg.com/thread/1653360/page/1

如果呢個post都上唔到熱門,我真係對連登死心/If this post doesn't become popular then I would lose all my hopes towards LIHKG

by Gay礎建設/A Fundamental Construction


呢排實在太亂太多資訊,同埋連登嘅風向越來越不堪入目,有見及此,邀請各路英雄好漢,一齊檢討各大戰線現存問題及未來進展,以下係少少個人意見
It's been chaotic lately with too much information floating around, plus LIHKG's vibe has been complete rubbish. Therefore, I sincerely invite all respectable heroes from all walks of life to join me and discuss the various problems of the existing battle fronts as well as their future developments. Below are just my two cents

1 周末街頭抗爭/1. Street Battles on Weekends
大遊行:已經唔可能攞到不反對通知書,成本越來越高,每次都有大量前線手足被捕,遊行完亦伴隨大搜捕,難返屋企,意義已經不大,如非民陣吹大雞,不建議留戀大遊行,可以用主題式集會替代大遊行
陣地戰:攞唔到實際成效,傷唔到暴警,同樣大量手足被捕,需要改善同釐清目標
Large-scale Protest Marches: It's become impossible to obtain the 'notice of no objection' and the costs associated with organizing a march are escalating (price for insurance). Many bros and sis have been arrested at the frontline each time. An extensive arrest would always take place after the protest marches, with no way to go home hence the diminishing significance. Perhaps we should not put too much weigh on protest marches unless the Civil Human Rights Front organizes them. Instead, we may substitute thematic assemblies for protest marches.
Positional Warfare: It achieved no actual results, and the police were never defeated. Instead, many bros and sis would get arrested, so we need to clarify our aims and improve our strategies.

2 日常抗爭/2. Daily Protests
中午快閃遊行:漸見起色,動員快,中環幾次快閃都成功,暴警對著晒恤衫嘅白領仍有顧忌,而且唔敢係working hour大戰,值得擴大規模
快閃拆鐵裝修塞路:成效非常顯著,然而畫面暴力,文宣未跟得上,和理非亦需要時間接受,衍生黑裝修、紅裝飾的提議,需檢討,值得做
罷工:曾經歷失敗,普遍不樂觀,但其實大家都知道大罷工絕對係政府嘅春袋,值得研究,需時籌備,短時間唔適宜搞罷工,但長遠來講罷工係必然手段,大家應該積極預備
Mid-Day Flash Mob Protests: It's gradually showing positive results, and it doesn't take much effort to mobilize people. A few had taken place in Central, and they have all been successful. It appears that the police would rather not deal with the white collars on top of not wanting to create a big scene during working hours. Therefore, it's worthwhile for us to scale up these mid-day flash mob protests.
Flash Mobs to Build Barracades Using Metal Fences: They are usually very effective, but appear violent on screen. Also, marketing materials might not be able to catch up, and the it would take time for our peaceful civilians to accept them. "Black Refurbishments" (Vandalism) and "Red Decorations" (Graffitiing) are worth doing but need reappraisal.
Strike: Had failed in the past, and overall it's not an optimistic option. However, we all know that a grand-scale strike would be like kicking the government's balls, so it's worth our time to do some maths about it. It's going to take time to organize one, so in the short run, a strike is not preferable. But in the long term, a grand-scale strike is a way we should consider using, so let's be optimistic and get ourselves prepared in the meantime.

3 文宣及網絡戰線/3. Marketing Materials and Cyber Battle Front
連登:大量五毛同風向撚,建議連登仔唔好隨意推post,善用不推文回覆
Twitter、Reddit:可以再多啲人參與,記住我哋唔係主導角色,正如Blizzard同NBA等事件,我哋可以推波助瀾,但關鍵都係美國民眾本身走向
文宣戰:極度缺乏,整文宣嘅人少,share文宣都少咗,記得釐清目標,文宣係要鞏固淺黃/和理非嘅支持,同提高淺黃/和理非嘅行動力
LIHKG: There is a large number of Fifty-Cents and Two-Faced Bastards, so I suggest for LIHKGers to comment without pushing
Twitter, Reddit: More people should join, but please remember that we are not in a leading role. We can comment and/or retweet things such as Blizzard and NBA, but the American civilians are the critical component in this exercise.
Marking Materials Battling: We are seriously deprived of it, and there aren't enough people working on/sharing/retweeting marketing materials. We must be clear of our expectations. We need to gain support from and heighten the motivation of the pro-democracy and peaceful sectors.

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(Editor's note: scroll down for part 2 )
2019-10-17 13:34:24
4 美國戰線(加國際輿論)/4. The American Battle Front (plus World Public Opinions)
人權法:人權法一再加辣,通過後可以對狗官和暴警施加明顯壓力,然而不應過份幻想,主線仍然係香港
特朗普:特朗普在美國戰線嘅角色其實從來不重要,關鍵係民間同國會嘅風向,唔好再理Trump講咩,積極遊說國會同係民間做輿論
國際輿論:Keep住有外媒關注就得,同理,唔好覺得歐美社會可以做香港救世主
The human rights and democracy act: They have sharpened the act. It would put a lot of pressure on the stupid government officials and violent police when it gets passed by the Senate. But let's not expect too much from it as we, Hongkongers, are the leaders in this battle.
Trump: Trump's role in the Americal Battle Front has never been necessary. Let's not put too much attention to Trump's words. Instead, channel our energy on actively lobbying the Senators as the American public, and their congress is the most important to our movement.
International Public Opinions: Let's keep the attention of the international media, and don't think that West would be a saviour to Hong Kong.

5 個人展望/5. My Personal Point of View
一、要贏一定要將抗爭帶入日常,林鄭最驚就係呢樣,暴警點搞都係平日夜晚或者周末,如果星期一至五working hour香港無法正常運作,呢個係對林鄭最大嘅壓力。短期內擴大平日快閃遊行至觀塘、新蒲崗等工商重心,作為周末大遊行嘅安全替代品,發起按章工作等超合作運動,務求習慣日常抗爭,為大罷工鋪路。個人建議:逢星期一全民口罩呀,星期二黃店爆買日,星期三罷搭黨鐵日,星期五快閃遊行日
1. Carrie Lam fears that protesting would become an integral part of Hong Kong's everyday life. The violent police can do whatever they want during the weeknight, as well as on the weekends. But there isn't much they can do during working hours on weekdays without causing too much disruption. This would place a great deal of pressure on Carrie Lam. In the short run, let's substitute flash mob protestings in the heart of different industrial districts such as Kwun Tong and San Po Kong instead of weekend protest marches. Organizing "highly cooperative exercises" such as work-to-rule and blend that into our daily protests would help lay the path to a grand-scale strike one day. Personal suggestions: Everybody Wear A Mask on Mondays, Crazy Patrionizing of Pro-Democracy Shops on Tuesdays, Forget the MTR on Wednesday, and Flash Mob Protests on Fridays.

二、和理非升級,唔係大家諗個種武力升級,而係好玩又有效,例如和理shop唔好淨係美心門口禁飛,應該拉一百個和理非入去企滿成間鋪,齋企塞到佢無辦法運作,又或者靜坐係黨鐵商場嘅出入口,阻止人入去幫襯,逼佢閂門
2. Upgrading our Peacekeepers' roles. I am not talking about transforming them into vigilantes, but to make their actions fun and effective. For example, "Shop with You" could be more impressive than instead of queuing tickets at Maxim's. When we have a hundred of our peaceful keepers and take up all the space inside the restaurants by standing there, we interrupt their operation. We can also have our peacekeepers sit in silence at the entrances of all MTR shopping malls, blocking the traffic of patrons until they close the mall.

三、開拓新戰線,之前講過大學有新戰線,可以睇下
【緊急】運動突破點:全新戰線
https://lih.kg/ajMxgcU
歡迎大家一齊brainstorm其他新戰線
3. Develop new battlefronts. Let's have a look at what new battlefronts that the university students have come up with.
[URGENT] The movement's breakthrough point: All New Battlefronts
https://lih.kg/ajMxgcU
Let's do some brainstorming together and come up with other new battlefronts

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2019-10-17 13:35:12
四、快閃進化,塞路可以配合三罷係日常返工時間做,裝修繼續保留(個人認為所有黨資企業都應該裝修,美心唔算),拆鐵就再觀望下先,可以考慮清晨路軌緊急維修,尤其東鐵好多露天地面路段
4. Flash mobs need to evolve, such as barricading during working hours on weekdays in addition to a Triple-Strike. The refurbishment must be continued (my personal view is that renovation should continue in businesses owned by the CCP, excluding Maxim's). We should hold off on dismantling the rails. On the other hand, we may consider Emergency Repairs in Early Mornings, particularly the many uncovered sections of the East Rail.

五、中長遠而言,繼續罷搭罷買建立黃色經濟圈,積極籌備三罷作為長遠最終武器
5. In the medium to long term, let's build a Yellow Economy Zone, patronizing only pro-democracy businesses. Let's actively prepare for the Triple-Strike as a weapon to use in the longrun.

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