計劃進修PhD/Research討論區 (9) 以有涯隨無涯 殆已

其實msc 好唔好入joint program?

有個歐洲2年msc program joint左法國、德國、瑞士 三個地方。

但走黎走去，會唔會同prof既attachment唔夠多？

我覺得你講個個Joint Programme好抵屌
Stratsbourg Basel Freiburg 其實好近
三地之間travel隨時容易過between三大
就network同flexibility黎睇 已經好正
再加上programme有差唔多一半non europeans
仲有Basel有Novartis, Roche加其他藥廠
隨身係industry做thesis又得
個人覺得Basel個名最響 thesis project可以試下

巴打好熟，瞬間知道我講緊邊個program仲提供咁多資料

我而家唯一猶豫既係Strasbourg個ranking太低（雖然life sci subject ranking唔錯），而張cert淨係印Strasbourg個名

有冇得睇佢地d graduate 出路?
問秘書可能有

網站冇寫，我問下

不過我諗master rank幾多應該唔太重要，除非係top 15/30 名校

Results
They have been awarded a master degree in neuroscience: 90%
They had to stop their training for personal/economical reasons: 2.9%
They left to get a job: 2.9%
They left to continue their clinical job: 2.9%
They left to continue another master training: 1.3%
Where are they now ?
They are presently doing a PhD: 85%
They were awarded and exert a clinical activity: 10%
They were awarded and are still looking for a job or PhD proposal: 5%

巴打都諗住報呢個program?

我唔係neuro 但歐洲近瑞士既area都略有所聞咁
我今年會去英國DPhil computational & structural bio

其實msc 好唔好入joint program?

有個歐洲2年msc program joint左法國、德國、瑞士 三個地方。

但走黎走去，會唔會同prof既attachment唔夠多？

我覺得你講個個Joint Programme好抵屌
Stratsbourg Basel Freiburg 其實好近
三地之間travel隨時容易過between三大
就network同flexibility黎睇 已經好正
再加上programme有差唔多一半non europeans
仲有Basel有Novartis, Roche加其他藥廠
隨身係industry做thesis又得
個人覺得Basel個名最響 thesis project可以試下

巴打好熟，瞬間知道我講緊邊個program仲提供咁多資料

我而家唯一猶豫既係Strasbourg個ranking太低（雖然life sci subject ranking唔錯），而張cert淨係印Strasbourg個名

法國大學ranking係國際舞台係唔高，但有得解 始終branding冇擺咁多資源 （德國大學都係，應該deserve更高ranking）
延伸閱讀：http://theconversation.com/why-do-french-universities-lag-behind-in-international-rankings-58197

如果你想17年開始master 哩個programme似乎幾好
but我見佢deadline又extend左 感覺上好似報名人數唔多
不過如果你想18年開始，咁你依家報既option又多番d既
講真你有expected first既話可以aim高d
例如：Goettingen (陳雲母校 ) https://www.gpneuro.uni-goettingen.de
Master都有錢收
但個邊好想綁住學生讀埋PhD 但好多學生當然想攞MSc然後在aim higher
當然可以考慮下瑞士 (我係ETH依家)
瑞士PhD人工高到喊

通常biosciences都係得standard rate，但實收已經有HKD 27000 per month
當然，生活費係高，但保證比起德國overall quality of life係高d


postdoc人工係高到嚇死人

anyway但我識人最後去左Goettingen instead of ETH
唔知係咪neuro佢地真係好勁喇

瑞士真係好好J
做死一世postdoc都濟啦屌

有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?

做乜鳩

瑞士真係好好J
做死一世postdoc都濟啦屌

我lab個postdoc
係Cambridge轉過黎
依家高人工過佢cambridge個PI

瑞士真係好好J
做死一世postdoc都濟啦屌

我lab個postdoc
係Cambridge轉過黎
依家高人工過佢cambridge個PI

cls 高價打工仔 又唔洗煩咁多r funding野

其實msc 好唔好入joint program?

有個歐洲2年msc program joint左法國、德國、瑞士 三個地方。

但走黎走去，會唔會同prof既attachment唔夠多？

我覺得你講個個Joint Programme好抵屌
Stratsbourg Basel Freiburg 其實好近
三地之間travel隨時容易過between三大
就network同flexibility黎睇 已經好正
再加上programme有差唔多一半non europeans
仲有Basel有Novartis, Roche加其他藥廠
隨身係industry做thesis又得
個人覺得Basel個名最響 thesis project可以試下

巴打好熟，瞬間知道我講緊邊個program仲提供咁多資料

我而家唯一猶豫既係Strasbourg個ranking太低（雖然life sci subject ranking唔錯），而張cert淨係印Strasbourg個名

有冇得睇佢地d graduate 出路?
問秘書可能有

網站冇寫，我問下

不過我諗master rank幾多應該唔太重要，除非係top 15/30 名校

Results
They have been awarded a master degree in neuroscience: 90%
They had to stop their training for personal/economical reasons: 2.9%
They left to get a job: 2.9%
They left to continue their clinical job: 2.9%
They left to continue another master training: 1.3%
Where are they now ?
They are presently doing a PhD: 85%
They were awarded and exert a clinical activity: 10%
They were awarded and are still looking for a job or PhD proposal: 5%

巴打都諗住報呢個program?

我唔係neuro 但歐洲近瑞士既area都略有所聞咁
我今年會去英國DPhil computational & structural bio

有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?

做乜鳩

是咁的 今日同老細傾PhD application, 佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低，相反玩management既behavioral science 會更有錢途，更加易tenure 因為management 多top tier 好似AMJ AMR. 但改變影響太大，因為我始終比較鍾意玩individual level psycho decision making多過OB marco, 但係又要為更遠諗 Uncle J你點睇

Croucher經驗求分享
唔睇proposal咁睇咩

當然proposal係重要
我指是到最後interview時 panel 問你既野其實好general (但可能scholarship同fellowship interview既問法會唔同啦）

panel幾個professor可能冇一個係你個field
所以grill唔到你好多 (關於個project方面）

interview個陣佢問我關於我個field既history (crystallography)
然後解釋下我個research點貢獻社會

講到尾啦 proposal要認真寫 寫到申請grant咁樣最好
我覺得selection係based on你份proposal有幾認真
入到interview stage反而可以諗下點包裝自己

一d數字：
官方話我知success rate 20% (其實幾高）
每年scholar同fellow各十個左右 年年唔同
今年香港interview round有>30 candidates (scholarship+fellowship)
英國round（5月先係）會有12個
由此可推算 入到interview round之後success rate 50/50

巴打 有興趣想知proposal有咩要注意

Croucher爭係accept STEM field application

屌

Croucher proposal 愈明校愈好
唔係太出名ge 學校機會細 d

同埋應該係3 份一 technology, 3份+1 science 同 +3份1 medic

有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?

做乜鳩

是咁的 今日同老細傾PhD application, 佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低，相反玩management既behavioral science 會更有錢途，更加易tenure 因為management 多top tier 好似AMJ AMR. 但改變影響太大，因為我始終比較鍾意玩individual level psycho decision making多過OB marco, 但係又要為更遠諗 Uncle J你點睇

佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低

Really?

點低法

有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?

做乜鳩

是咁的 今日同老細傾PhD application, 佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低，相反玩management既behavioral science 會更有錢途，更加易tenure 因為management 多top tier 好似AMJ AMR. 但改變影響太大，因為我始終比較鍾意玩individual level psycho decision making多過OB marco, 但係又要為更遠諗 Uncle J你點睇

佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低

Really?

點低法

起碼差一個range, 最重要係tenure 因為都係睇你有幾多篇A management field多過behavioral psycho field, 令到相對比psycho prof容易拎tenure

不過想讀 ge 真係要諗諗
唔係想做 prof 其實讀 phd 好悶

最慘係
Academic 呢行好黑暗
出紙都係睇老細
Double blind review 都好
一眼就知邊個出

最on 9係
好多時 conference 同 journal review
D 老細都係掉比 d 細ge 做
我以前一年都做10 份8 份
通常都係睇頭睇尾算

之後d 人出紙都係抄抄下。
Idea 改少少又掉出來

Thanks for your information

Gottingen我第一round已被rejected

呢間U ranking唔高 （120左右），但佢d Msc program競爭大到痴線，我都聽過好多人唔去top school，反而去呢間。可能因為佢係max Planck既partner institute

承上喇 好多德國U都ranking唔太高
Goettingen 係科學歷史上好重要既地方，可能有historical fame 啦
max planck都可能係一個因素

兩年前apply過佢地molecular biology個Master
去左interview收左
但係Goettingen個感覺真係好悶
都係鍾意大城市

Thanks for your information

Gottingen我第一round已被rejected

呢間U ranking唔高 （120左右），但佢d Msc program競爭大到痴線，我都聽過好多人唔去top school，反而去呢間。可能因為佢係max Planck既partner institute

承上喇 好多德國U都ranking唔太高
Goettingen 係科學歷史上好重要既地方，可能有historical fame 啦
max planck都可能係一個因素

兩年前apply過佢地molecular biology個Master
去左interview收左
但係Goettingen個感覺真係好悶
都係鍾意大城市

哥廷根出過novel prize既人數全世界頭十名，不過俾納粹黨趕盡殺絕後，就不復當年勇了
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Göttingen_people
個list真係嚇死人

有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?

做咩

Thanks for your information

Gottingen我第一round已被rejected

呢間U ranking唔高 （120左右），但佢d Msc program競爭大到痴線，我都聽過好多人唔去top school，反而去呢間。可能因為佢係max Planck既partner institute

承上喇 好多德國U都ranking唔太高
Goettingen 係科學歷史上好重要既地方，可能有historical fame 啦
max planck都可能係一個因素

兩年前apply過佢地molecular biology個Master
去左interview收左
但係Goettingen個感覺真係好悶
都係鍾意大城市

哥廷根出過novel prize既人數全世界頭十名，不過俾納粹黨趕盡殺絕後，就不復當年勇了
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Göttingen_people
個list真係嚇死人

有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?

做乜鳩

是咁的 今日同老細傾PhD application, 佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低，相反玩management既behavioral science 會更有錢途，更加易tenure 因為management 多top tier 好似AMJ AMR. 但改變影響太大，因為我始終比較鍾意玩individual level psycho decision making多過OB marco, 但係又要為更遠諗 Uncle J你點睇

佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低

Really?

點低法

起碼差一個range, 最重要係tenure 因為都係睇你有幾多篇A management field多過behavioral psycho field, 令到相對比psycho prof容易拎tenure

Tenure requirement唔知。不過有econ phd同學最尾搵左marketing/management school。
然後講marketing grad的人數少好多，變相容易搵工。
你讀左一輪behavioral野，其實都要諗下想點樣發展你讀過的野。要再pure啲定apply啲?

多年前已經有位巴打 (好似係咀香園）
講美國psycho 前境一般
佢自己都由social psy 跳左去econ 定management 做faculty



利申：我成日都話psycho 遲走俾biology, neuroscience 食晒成個field!

有無巴打係或者有做management/business field paper?

做乜鳩

是咁的 今日同老細傾PhD application, 佢見到我個list成堆psycho就話係美國前途好暗淡人工低，相反玩management既behavioral science 會更有錢途，更加易tenure 因為management 多top tier 好似AMJ AMR. 但改變影響太大，因為我始終比較鍾意玩individual level psycho decision making多過OB marco, 但係又要為更遠諗 Uncle J你點睇

讀psycho搵ap position搵management都得姐
同埋 你讀phd諗乜鳩錢途 諗錢就唔好讀啦

其實msc 好唔好入joint program?

有個歐洲2年msc program joint左法國、德國、瑞士 三個地方。

但走黎走去，會唔會同prof既attachment唔夠多？

我覺得你講個個Joint Programme好抵屌
Stratsbourg Basel Freiburg 其實好近
三地之間travel隨時容易過between三大
就network同flexibility黎睇 已經好正
再加上programme有差唔多一半non europeans
仲有Basel有Novartis, Roche加其他藥廠
隨身係industry做thesis又得
個人覺得Basel個名最響 thesis project可以試下

巴打好熟，瞬間知道我講緊邊個program仲提供咁多資料

我而家唯一猶豫既係Strasbourg個ranking太低（雖然life sci subject ranking唔錯），而張cert淨係印Strasbourg個名

有冇得睇佢地d graduate 出路?
問秘書可能有

網站冇寫，我問下

不過我諗master rank幾多應該唔太重要，除非係top 15/30 名校

Results
They have been awarded a master degree in neuroscience: 90%
They had to stop their training for personal/economical reasons: 2.9%
They left to get a job: 2.9%
They left to continue their clinical job: 2.9%
They left to continue another master training: 1.3%
Where are they now ?
They are presently doing a PhD: 85%
They were awarded and exert a clinical activity: 10%
They were awarded and are still looking for a job or PhD proposal: 5%

巴打都諗住報呢個program?

我唔係neuro 但歐洲近瑞士既area都略有所聞咁
我今年會去英國DPhil computational & structural bio

發現之前同人傾個idea有人pub左一鳩毛一樣既野
Model一鳩毛一樣 同埋本身想做theory+experiment
佢又係咁做

發現之前同人傾個idea有人pub左一鳩毛一樣既野
Model一鳩毛一樣 同埋本身想做theory+experiment
佢又係咁做

諗到個 idea 但無人做過先係奇怪

不過想讀 ge 真係要諗諗
唔係想做 prof 其實讀 phd 好悶

最慘係
Academic 呢行好黑暗
出紙都係睇老細
Double blind review 都好
一眼就知邊個出

最on 9係
好多時 conference 同 journal review
D 老細都係掉比 d 細ge 做
我以前一年都做10 份8 份
通常都係睇頭睇尾算

之後d 人出紙都係抄抄下。
Idea 改少少又掉出來

你係邊個國家？
行行都有佢地既規則
覺得做academia就一定好高尚既真係too simple too naive

不過想讀 ge 真係要諗諗
唔係想做 prof 其實讀 phd 好悶

最慘係
Academic 呢行好黑暗
出紙都係睇老細
Double blind review 都好
一眼就知邊個出

最on 9係
好多時 conference 同 journal review
D 老細都係掉比 d 細ge 做
我以前一年都做10 份8 份
通常都係睇頭睇尾算

之後d 人出紙都係抄抄下。
Idea 改少少又掉出來

你係邊個國家？
行行都有佢地既規則
覺得做academia就一定好高尚既真係too simple too naive

你可以選擇做高尚
但唔好expert 其他人都會