【語重心長】投資新手或者唔想再做傻散嘅入一入嚟(6)

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2025-01-23 14:14:25
QQQ回報根本唔值個風險

可唔可解解釋背後理論?
2025-01-23 18:59:46
想問樓主係咪用ib 月供?
2025-01-23 19:15:45
Futures同樣會爆倉
只不過好似低多少少
5-10% maintenance margin
2025-01-23 21:05:35
唔係好明 manage futures 既操作
長期黎講,manage futures係咪唔會有利息既?同埋個價格大勢都唔係向上
只係股市債市大跌既時候會做到對沖既作用?
2025-01-23 22:26:18
https://wholesale.banking.societegenerale.com/en/prime-services-indices/

呢個就係SG index, DBMF 同埋其他managed futures 嘗試跟嗰個
25年升左200%
平均一年4-5%
仲有其他hedge fund index 都係類似
2025-01-23 22:27:55
Managed futures 既目的係比起cash 有更高return
Portable alpha 都係講緊呢樣野
2025-01-23 22:33:35
當你買左60% RSSB
你已經買左60% world stock 60% bond
剩返嗰40%你買Managed futures 係可以提高回報,因為呢40%比起cash有更高return
2025-01-23 22:35:40
雖然呢啲產品係近期先比散戶買到,但係呢個概念已經有幾十年,大多數退休基金都係用緊呢一招
2025-01-23 22:46:29
唔該曬師兄回覆
我見唔少人用KMLM買managed futures
但佢22年大升完又跌番落黎
係唔係因為佢成立時間唔夠長
所以先未反映到個長期升勢?
驚自己有野搞錯左
2025-01-23 23:05:06
Managed futures 最好買幾隻
KMLM呢個產品跟既方法(200天線)已經幾十年,只係近期先可以俾散戶買,佢唔係跟SG index
呢兩年見到佢升得多先再買嗰啲,咪又係chase performance
2025-01-23 23:07:43
雖然我自己買CTA都係chase Performance
2025-01-23 23:46:37
理論就VOO/QQQ篇文都講得七七八八,實際做個backtest睇下你就明

QQQ係回報好高呀,但喺同樣波動之下可以有組合(第二個)回報高過佢。兼且風險唔係淨係睇波動,你個人心理坐唔坐得定,你睇埋max drawdown 同Ulcer index,第二個組合根本完勝,我肯定冇人全倉QQQ爆完科網股泡沫之後坐定定十幾年

仲有sequence risk呢?我個backtest咁啱由95年開始,叫做科網股泡沫之後掃咗十幾年QQQ平貨,最尾十年爆升條數先望落去咁靚仔啫。如果調返轉,你由70年供三十年Nasdaq 1000,係00年退休咁點搞?做多十年嘢等佢升返?點解我設計投資組合嘅時候唔揀一個會穩定啲上升嘅組合,唔使俾啲投資回報時機控制返我嘅人生計劃轉頭?

月供$10000,扣咗通漲
唔好跟入面嘅組合,用咗好大槓桿
https://testfol.io/?s=hs52qZCseZk
2025-01-23 23:53:30
你觀點同呢個人有啲類似

https://youtu.be/Xeu7KEa6IOk?si=IkVtM6Qx5S4hRYNU
2025-01-24 00:21:26
2025-01-24 00:35:44
其實正常有讀過 finance 101嘅人都唔會建議QQQ,不過都明點解啲人咁鍾意QQQ, 唔使槓桿,簡單易明就可以放大beta
2025-01-24 00:35:53
lm
2025-01-24 00:37:28
2025-01-24 00:43:01
Chase performance is human nature.
2025-01-24 00:48:14
當大家討論得如火如茶之際,提提大家,VOO 和SSO又預備破頂,大家加咗倉未?
2025-01-24 00:50:13
Always in the market.
I am very risk adverse, only have 6x% in equity.
2025-01-24 01:21:47
無知一問,唔計通脹同唔睇返咁多年嘅往績嘅話其實長遠點解全球股市/大市一定會升?

純粹想股災嗰陣心態好啲
2025-01-24 01:25:57
Managed futures係一大類利用futures為工具嘅策略嚟,不限於但主要用trend following / momentum, 透過 long / short好多唔同嘅市場(stock, bond, yield, currencies, commodities, etc)嚟賺錢,算係主動策略嚟

長期嚟講係唔會有利息,long/short會大致cancel out

係大致向上的,不過managed futures 靠嘅係策略,唔似股票同債券天生就識賺錢,所以都幾建議如果managed futures 比例較高就買多幾個,分散返單一manager / strategy risk


個長期trend顯著嘅市就會賺到錢,股災/債災係一個例子。好似近排得閒又話加息得閒又話唔加,個trend係咁轉咪蝕錢

留意trend following嘅 return distribution係比較positively skewed, 所以除咗極端市況,平時都唔太賺到錢,hedge就係咁運作。兼且個極端市況要喺比較長期嘅嗰種先有用,如果你係想hedge against 2020年3月嗰種急跌要deep out of money option先幫到你



最後留意 managed futures 嘅ETF派息都偏高,要留意稅嘅問題

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2025-01-24 01:28:16
冇得同 cash 比啦,個risk nature差咁遠
2025-01-24 01:29:48
係咁運作的,志在股災/債災嗰陣會升然後用嚟rebalance
2025-01-24 01:31:09
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