唔通靚女就可以係工程界打橫行?

隔離谷傳﹕
HKIE回覆咗個投訴人，要求投訴人提供個人資料、提供證據以證明一棟從未存在過嘅樓何解未存在過等，比個投訴人串爆

Dear HKIE Secretariat,

My name is Au Kai Chan. I am an engineering practitioner in Hong Kong. If you find this “Identity” unacceptable, please provide the definition of 'Identity' for complainants according to the HKIE Disciplinary Regulations or other HKIE written policy.

My 'Contact' is the email address from which I am sending this message to you. Similarly, if you find this 'Contact' information unacceptable, please provide the definition of 'Contact' for complainants according to the HKIE Disciplinary Regulations or the definition of 'Contact' under Hong Kong Legislation.

Regarding her deceitfully obtained CEng and MCIBSE qualifications by providing false information about a project and company name, please see the attached document. She used the false information in the attachment and a forged company letter to trick Professor Wang Shengwei into signing. Afterwards, she has shown this document to others and taught them how to deceive CEng and MCIBSE qualifications using this method. By the way, the attachment we submitted complies with the Cap.486 Personal Data (Privacy) Ordinance.

As for providing evidence to prove that she “invented” a non-existent project, how do you expect me to prove that a fictional building does not exist in reality? Do you want me to visit the site of the “invented” building for an on-site investigation? As a professional institution, can your response show some common sense? Since she claims her involvement in the project was on-site construction and management, wouldn't it be easier for you to ask her to indicate the project's location or provide relevant photos or information? Moreover, as a professional institution, don't you have the ability to check the information or related records she submitted to ECUK and HKIE?

Clearly, she has violated HKIE "The Ordinance and Constitution” Article 13 (5) “improper conduct” - the making of any false representation or untrue or misleading statement in applying for election or transfer to any class of membership of the Institution or inclusion on the Register. You have a responsibility to initiate an investigation into this incident.

Regarding the incident of her obtaining a Senior Manager position at Hysan through fraudulent documentation, Ir Keith Yue (Chairman of the Building Services Division for Session 2023/2024) is the best witness, as he holds all the evidence and is fully aware of the incident. Of course, this premise only holds true if he still possesses basic human decency, respects the engineering profession, and is 'Proud to be Engineers’.

Of course, whether to handle this report or not is entirely up to you. However, I can tell you that, taking The Medical Council of Hong Kong disciplinary inquiries as an example, even without the aforementioned evidence and relying solely on the information provided in the previous email, it would be sufficient to convene an in-house disciplinary inquiries and issue a public statement revoking her professional qualifications. As a professional institution, I am extremely disappointed with your unprofessional response.

Regards,

AK Chan

附google translate版本﹕

尊敬的香港工程師學會秘書處：

我叫歐啟燦。 我是香港的一名工程從業者。 如果您認為此“身份”不可接受，請根據香港工程師學會紀律條例或其他香港工程師學會書面政策，為投訴人提供“身份”的定義。

我的“聯繫人”是我向您發送此消息的電子郵件地址。 同樣，如果您認為此“聯繫方式”信息不可接受，請根據香港工程師學會紀律條例或香港法例對“聯繫方式”的定義，提供投訴人對“聯繫方式”的定義。

關於她通過提供虛假項目和公司名稱信息騙取CEng和MCIBSE資格的情況，請參閱所附文件。 她利用附件中的虛假信息和偽造的公司信函誘騙王教授簽字。 隨後，她將這份文件拿給其他人看，並教他們如何利用這種方法騙取CEng和MCIBSE資格。 順便說一句，我們提交的附件符合《個人資料（私隱）條例》第486章的規定。

至於提供證據證明她“發明”了一個不存在的項目，你讓我如何證明虛構的建築在現實中不存在？ 要不要我去“發明”建築現場實地考察一下？ 作為專業機構，您的回應能否體現一些常識？ 既然她聲稱自己參與該項目是現場施工和管理，那麼你讓她指出項目地點或提供相關照片或信息不是更容易嗎？ 而且，作為一個專業機構，難道你們沒有能力檢查她向ECUK和HKIE提交的信息或相關記錄嗎？

顯然，她違反了香港工程師學會《條例及章程》第13（5）條“不當行為”，即在申請選舉或轉任該學會任何級別的會員或加入該學會的會員時，作出任何虛假陳述或不真實或誤導性的陳述登記冊。您有責任對此事件發起調查。

對於她以虛假文件取得希慎高級經理職位的事件，Keith Yue工程師（2023/2024屆屋宇裝備部主席）是最好的證人，因為他掌握所有證據，對事件瞭如指掌。 當然，這個前提只有在他仍然具備基本的人類尊嚴、尊重工程職業、並且“以成為工程師為榮”的情況下才成立。

當然，是否處理這份報告完全取決於你。 不過，我可以告訴你，以香港醫務委員會紀律研訊為例，即使沒有上述證據，僅憑上一封電子郵件提供的資料，也足以召開內部紀律研訊。並發表公開聲明，撤銷其專業資格。 作為一個專業機構，我對你們不專業的回應感到非常失望。

問候，

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