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猶太教：基督教邪教呀，你有冇睇過佢哋教義呀？完全曲解Tanakh（舊約聖經）。
個個宗教教派都話自己個解法啱，人哋錯㗎啦。因為我個解法同你唔同就邪？因你舊約解法夠唔同猶太教，咁你又邪啦喎？
個個宗教教派都話自己個解法啱，人哋錯㗎啦。因為我個解法同你唔同就邪？因你舊約解法夠唔同猶太教，咁你又邪啦喎？
本是同根生 
公道講，摩門教(LDS)未算係邪教，不過佢衍生出來的摩門教基本教義派（FLDS)好多人都認為係邪教。
不過，佢地有咩分別，都係交番俾摩門教既巴打介紹
不過，佢地有咩分別，都係交番俾摩門教既巴打介紹
我識呢個網站嘅網主，身邊都唔少朋友同佢一齊長大。只能講呢個網站嘅資料只分兩類：
一類就係一知半解嘅歷史資料，例如佢只會提創教先知娶個14歲做佢多妻老婆，但佢無提過呢段婚姻係個女仔嘅爸爸主動提出，無提過個女仔係了解同埋同意，無提過歷史證據證明佢哋呢段婚姻從未完婚（無性關係），無提過呢位14歲女仔大個咗後寫過好幾本書支持同解釋摩門教嘅一夫多妻唔係外人想像嘅淫亂關係。
另一類就係將摩門教同共濟會拉上關係，但前題無任何證據證明共濟會係同邪惡有任何關係。
再講，自願同意、無犯法、婚前守貞、婚後守貞嘅一夫多妻點邪法？如果一個宗教嘅因為有過一夫多妻嘅歷史就等於邪，咁基督教都邪啦，亞伯拉罕、摩西、大衛呢啲先知無一夫多妻咩？
一類就係一知半解嘅歷史資料，例如佢只會提創教先知娶個14歲做佢多妻老婆，但佢無提過呢段婚姻係個女仔嘅爸爸主動提出，無提過個女仔係了解同埋同意，無提過歷史證據證明佢哋呢段婚姻從未完婚（無性關係），無提過呢位14歲女仔大個咗後寫過好幾本書支持同解釋摩門教嘅一夫多妻唔係外人想像嘅淫亂關係。
另一類就係將摩門教同共濟會拉上關係，但前題無任何證據證明共濟會係同邪惡有任何關係。
再講，自願同意、無犯法、婚前守貞、婚後守貞嘅一夫多妻點邪法？如果一個宗教嘅因為有過一夫多妻嘅歷史就等於邪，咁基督教都邪啦，亞伯拉罕、摩西、大衛呢啲先知無一夫多妻咩？
你係咪摩門教徒?
係，起我底，開過你問我答
咁我建議你地開返個網站去反擊佢
一般人好易比佢洗腦
一般人好易比佢洗腦
On9仔先信教
連白卡kenny都知假架on9
連白卡kenny都知假架on9
我都想，但講真而家真係未有時間搞呢啲 長遠可能會搞嘅。
外國其實好多解釋教會嘅youtuber channels, 例如呢個channel
https://youtu.be/YcTW6t2obe0
另外老實講，如果一個人會去一個反摩門教嘅網站去了解摩門教而唔係直接搵摩門教去了解（邊到有摩門教嘅教堂同傳教士，隨便上網search下有），咁個人都有啲搞笑啦係咪？
正如一個人睇完戰慄的聖經嘅網站就以為自己認識基督教
https://truthbible.net/
長遠可能會搞嘅。外國其實好多解釋教會嘅youtuber channels, 例如呢個channel
https://youtu.be/YcTW6t2obe0
另外老實講，如果一個人會去一個反摩門教嘅網站去了解摩門教而唔係直接搵摩門教去了解（邊到有摩門教嘅教堂同傳教士，隨便上網search下有），咁個人都有啲搞笑啦係咪？
正如一個人睇完戰慄的聖經嘅網站就以為自己認識基督教
https://truthbible.net/
FLDS
一夫N妻
亂淪 強姦（包括十六歲以下）逼婚
Netflix有紀錄片
一夫N妻
亂淪 強姦（包括十六歲以下）逼婚
Netflix有紀錄片
基督教有曾經視一夫多妻係教義？聖經係有記載一d人物曾經有幾個老婆，但聖經/基督教曾經明確曾經讚賞/主張一夫多妻（除左兄終弟及的律法間接地鼓勵左，但背後係為保障遠古時代寡婦的生活）？申命記明確要王不可多納妃嬪，只係有王唔守。保羅亦講明執事只作一人的丈夫，已經講明一夫一妻先係神喜悅的（其實守獨身事奉神都係神喜悅）。應該拉埋黎講？
洗左腦既情況下既所謂自願同意，仲係唔係自願同意？如果係，咁FLDS 同攝理教果班女仔都係「自願同意」？
可摸耳講多d你教會點justify JS同BY既一夫多妻行為？JS冇性關係咁BY呢？
利申：耶L
洗左腦既情況下既所謂自願同意，仲係唔係自願同意？如果係，咁FLDS 同攝理教果班女仔都係「自願同意」？
可摸耳講多d你教會點justify JS同BY既一夫多妻行為？JS冇性關係咁BY呢？
利申：耶L
柒婆話天堂留咗位畀佢
如果以現實角度睇
每當一啲人佢地權力地位等於(神)
已經肯定係邪惡架啦
冇一個人能夠等同(神)呢樣野
因為呢啲人根本冇呢個神嘅能力
更加冇可能有佢地所形容神嘅智慧
所以可以肯定係騙局嚟
每當一啲人佢地權力地位等於(神)
已經肯定係邪惡架啦
冇一個人能夠等同(神)呢樣野
因為呢啲人根本冇呢個神嘅能力
更加冇可能有佢地所形容神嘅智慧
所以可以肯定係騙局嚟
主冇話人只可以一夫一妻
先講基督教部份
咁要睇你點為之教義啦，如果有晒規範寫咗落出埃及記都唔叫教義咁我都可以argue一夫多妻唔係摩門教教義。事實上摩門教的確唔視一夫多妻為必要嘅教義。
出埃及記:21:10 若另娶一個，那女子的吃食，衣服，並好合的事，仍不可減少。
而聖經係明確反對一夫多妻呢個論點都係近代基督教先有，睇返新教運動嘅主要發起人之一嘅Martin Luther點睇：
Martin Luther, the founder of the Protestant Reformation, wrote: "I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture. If a man wishes to marry more than one wife he should be asked whether he is satisfied in his conscience that he may do so in accordance with the word of God. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter."
假設你啱，神對婚姻嘅睇法真係好似你講咁，咁好自然嘅問題就係點解亞伯拉罕、摩西、大衛等呢啲同神咁親近嘅人會娶多過一個。神唔直接同佢哋講？我認為更合理嘅解釋係神喺大部份情況下係希望一夫一妻（which摩門教係同意），但喺特別嘅情況下係容許一夫多妻。呢個解釋更接近聖經嘅記載。
講摩門教部份
另外你可能唔知，Book of Mormon係反對神無准許嘅多妻制，但我估你啲牧師唔會同你講或者牧師喺反摩門教前根本就無睇過Book of Mormon。
Book of Mormon雅各書2章：
27因此，我的弟兄們，請聽我說，並聽從主所說的話：你們中間任何人都只能有一個妻子，不可納妾； 28因為我，主神，喜悅婦女的貞潔，淫亂在我眼中是一種憎行；萬軍之主這樣說。 29因此，萬軍之主說：這人民要遵守我的誡命，否則這地必因他們的緣故受咒詛。 30萬軍之主說，因為我若要為自己興起後裔，我會命令我的人民；否則他們就要聽從這些話
洗腦論個到其實無咩意思，第一點為之洗咗腦真係有排拗。我都唔會話因為你畀基督教洗咗腦所以睇唔到聖經喺撒母耳記下到耶和華親自將掃羅嘅妻s交到大衛懷裡。
事實上反摩門教成日提嘅14歲女仔（Helen Mar Kimball）喺長大後都有寫書好清楚解釋摩門教嘅一夫多妻係點，如果你要argue佢大咗都keep住畀人洗腦，咁真係咩都唔使討論
https://www.amazon.com/William-Columbus-Ferril/dp/B008CA3EKS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1678515476&refinements=p_27%3AHelen+Mar+Kimball+Whitney&s=books&sr=1-1
其實我唔明點解要justify，聖經都禁止，所以喺宗教層面上無犯法。183x年嘅美國都無禁止，所以喺法律層面上無犯法。另外有相對上完整嘅歷史記錄，證明係自願嘅。唔少多妻者都有寫書同接受訪問解釋。係教外人無花過心機去深入研究，只純好表面咁睇所以有誤解啫。
最後，只要段婚姻係各方同意同自願嘅話，請問夫妻之間有性行為嘅問題喺邊？我特別提到14歲個個無性行為係針對返Helen嘅case。
先講明，所有歷史證據都指向創教人無同下面講嘅三類人發生性行為。
1. 未成年嘅年輕妻子（不論係今生婚姻或來生嘅婚姻）
2. 本身有老公單純係為死後來生所印證嘅來生婚姻妻子
3. 非今世合法婚姻嘅任何女性
咁要睇你點為之教義啦，如果有晒規範寫咗落出埃及記都唔叫教義咁我都可以argue一夫多妻唔係摩門教教義。事實上摩門教的確唔視一夫多妻為必要嘅教義。
出埃及記:21:10 若另娶一個，那女子的吃食，衣服，並好合的事，仍不可減少。
而聖經係明確反對一夫多妻呢個論點都係近代基督教先有，睇返新教運動嘅主要發起人之一嘅Martin Luther點睇：
Martin Luther, the founder of the Protestant Reformation, wrote: "I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture. If a man wishes to marry more than one wife he should be asked whether he is satisfied in his conscience that he may do so in accordance with the word of God. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter."
假設你啱，神對婚姻嘅睇法真係好似你講咁，咁好自然嘅問題就係點解亞伯拉罕、摩西、大衛等呢啲同神咁親近嘅人會娶多過一個。神唔直接同佢哋講？我認為更合理嘅解釋係神喺大部份情況下係希望一夫一妻（which摩門教係同意），但喺特別嘅情況下係容許一夫多妻。呢個解釋更接近聖經嘅記載。
講摩門教部份
另外你可能唔知，Book of Mormon係反對神無准許嘅多妻制，但我估你啲牧師唔會同你講或者牧師喺反摩門教前根本就無睇過Book of Mormon。
Book of Mormon雅各書2章：
27因此，我的弟兄們，請聽我說，並聽從主所說的話：你們中間任何人都只能有一個妻子，不可納妾； 28因為我，主神，喜悅婦女的貞潔，淫亂在我眼中是一種憎行；萬軍之主這樣說。 29因此，萬軍之主說：這人民要遵守我的誡命，否則這地必因他們的緣故受咒詛。 30萬軍之主說，因為我若要為自己興起後裔，我會命令我的人民；否則他們就要聽從這些話
洗腦論個到其實無咩意思，第一點為之洗咗腦真係有排拗。我都唔會話因為你畀基督教洗咗腦所以睇唔到聖經喺撒母耳記下到耶和華親自將掃羅嘅妻s交到大衛懷裡。
事實上反摩門教成日提嘅14歲女仔（Helen Mar Kimball）喺長大後都有寫書好清楚解釋摩門教嘅一夫多妻係點，如果你要argue佢大咗都keep住畀人洗腦，咁真係咩都唔使討論
https://www.amazon.com/William-Columbus-Ferril/dp/B008CA3EKS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1678515476&refinements=p_27%3AHelen+Mar+Kimball+Whitney&s=books&sr=1-1
其實我唔明點解要justify，聖經都禁止，所以喺宗教層面上無犯法。183x年嘅美國都無禁止，所以喺法律層面上無犯法。另外有相對上完整嘅歷史記錄，證明係自願嘅。唔少多妻者都有寫書同接受訪問解釋。係教外人無花過心機去深入研究，只純好表面咁睇所以有誤解啫。
最後，只要段婚姻係各方同意同自願嘅話，請問夫妻之間有性行為嘅問題喺邊？我特別提到14歲個個無性行為係針對返Helen嘅case。
先講明，所有歷史證據都指向創教人無同下面講嘅三類人發生性行為。
1. 未成年嘅年輕妻子（不論係今生婚姻或來生嘅婚姻）
2. 本身有老公單純係為死後來生所印證嘅來生婚姻妻子
3. 非今世合法婚姻嘅任何女性
聖經都無禁止
點解會有舊約同新約
點解我地唔係果D民族要信同一個主？
點解我地唔係果D民族要信同一個主？
想搞清楚先答，呢個係問喺我哋摩門教眼中點解有新舊約？同埋點解明明係猶太人嘅宗教但其他民族要信？
我諗大部分主流既女性都唔會願意跟其他女性共享一位丈夫。如果第二set婚姻只要果位丈夫同果位女人（which suppose第三者）同意就冇問題冇需要justify，有考慮大婆既感受？
而你地同意常態婚姻應該係一夫一妻，這很好。咁你地又係如何理解JS同BY既「非常態」？
而你地同意常態婚姻應該係一夫一妻，這很好。咁你地又係如何理解JS同BY既「非常態」？
你講起Helen，即刻search一search，以下係唔係佢本書既內容？我係一個網站見到，咁熟口熟面既？睇到有d毛管戙
“I heard him [Joseph Smith] teach and explain the principle of celestial marriage. After which he said to me, “If you will take this step, it will ensure your eternal salvation and exaltation and that of your father’s household and all of your kindred.” This promise was so great that I willingly gave myself to purchase so glorious a reward”
Source: Helen Mar Kimball Whitney, “Autobiography, 30 March 1881,” MS 744, CHL. Typescript and copy of holograph reproduced in Jeni Broberg Holzapfel and Richard Neitzel Holzapfel, eds., A Woman’s View: Helen Mar Whitney’s Reminiscences of Early Church History (Provo, Utah: Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University, 1997), 482–87.
“I heard him [Joseph Smith] teach and explain the principle of celestial marriage. After which he said to me, “If you will take this step, it will ensure your eternal salvation and exaltation and that of your father’s household and all of your kindred.” This promise was so great that I willingly gave myself to purchase so glorious a reward”
Source: Helen Mar Kimball Whitney, “Autobiography, 30 March 1881,” MS 744, CHL. Typescript and copy of holograph reproduced in Jeni Broberg Holzapfel and Richard Neitzel Holzapfel, eds., A Woman’s View: Helen Mar Whitney’s Reminiscences of Early Church History (Provo, Utah: Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University, 1997), 482–87.
Again一知半解嘅歷史
This quotation is sometimes cited by critics as solid evidence that the Prophet promised exaltation to at least one of his plural wives and her family if they would agree to the marriage. Typically omitted from such accounts is the fact that one year later Helen clarified that she may not have understood everything correctly: “I confess that I was too young or too ‘foolish’ to comprehend and appreciate all” that Joseph Smith then taught.
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Contemporaneous evidence from more mature family members who were better positioned to “comprehend and appreciate” the Prophet’s promises to Helen demonstrates that her statement reflects her misunderstanding of the blessings predicated on this sealing.
Just weeks after Helen Mar’s plural wedding to Joseph Smith, Helen’s father, Heber C. Kimball, in a July 10, 1843, letter to her from Pittsburg, expressed concern for her soul, reminding her that salvation in the next life would depend on how she lived this life: “My child, remember the care that your dear father and mother have for your welfare in this life, that all may be done well, and that in view of eternal worlds, for that will depend upon what we do here, and how we do it.”
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source: https://josephsmithspolygamy.org/plural-wives-overview/helen-mar-kimball/
This quotation is sometimes cited by critics as solid evidence that the Prophet promised exaltation to at least one of his plural wives and her family if they would agree to the marriage. Typically omitted from such accounts is the fact that one year later Helen clarified that she may not have understood everything correctly: “I confess that I was too young or too ‘foolish’ to comprehend and appreciate all” that Joseph Smith then taught.
13
Contemporaneous evidence from more mature family members who were better positioned to “comprehend and appreciate” the Prophet’s promises to Helen demonstrates that her statement reflects her misunderstanding of the blessings predicated on this sealing.
Just weeks after Helen Mar’s plural wedding to Joseph Smith, Helen’s father, Heber C. Kimball, in a July 10, 1843, letter to her from Pittsburg, expressed concern for her soul, reminding her that salvation in the next life would depend on how she lived this life: “My child, remember the care that your dear father and mother have for your welfare in this life, that all may be done well, and that in view of eternal worlds, for that will depend upon what we do here, and how we do it.”
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source: https://josephsmithspolygamy.org/plural-wives-overview/helen-mar-kimball/