其實點解凡爾賽條約對德國咁苛刻?

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2020-08-02 19:40:29
法國輸左雖然係冇左個霸權
但德國o係凡爾賽官登基呢樣野就太過屈辱
仲嚴重過拎左洛林
如果單純拎左洛林可能冇咁大件事
法國唔整番條凡爾賽條約玩你就有鬼
2020-08-02 19:50:17
關個借口咩事,你搶得人野人地點都會想搶返
唔會話個借口合理就唔想報仇
2020-08-02 20:40:43
其實有講法係法國淨係識得投降依個meme
好大程度上係因為2003年法國唔支持打伊拉克
所以美國人攞返二戰極速投降出嚟講
基本上係情感凌駕事實
2020-08-03 00:40:25
真係太肉酸 普法注定一戰啦
2020-08-03 01:11:56
點解德國次撚次都打輸
2020-08-03 01:20:41
「德國」依個國家又真係打兩次輸兩次嘅
不過兩次都係世界大戰咁姐

認真的話 唔好計HRE整體咁亂
淨計普魯士本身 都係贏多過輸好多 雖然有啲「奇蹟」成份
統一德國前更加係連贏三場丹麥 奧地利同法國
2020-08-03 08:01:39
如果單計WW的話
德國地理位置已經註定左佢會比人兩面夾擊
2020-08-03 08:06:06
針對德國係因為1870年普法戰爭法國佬輸左
普魯士串到係法國嘅皇宮進行登基同立國儀式
所以你明啦
而且事後法國代表回國之後,比國民屌鳩佢放過德國,逼乜下台
你就知當時幾深仇大恨
2020-08-03 08:07:18
你睇返維也納會議就知唔關fuck 唔fuck up 事
2020-08-03 08:19:19
樓上覆錯

想覆呢個

如果單計WW的話
德國地理位置已經註定左佢會比人兩面夾擊
2020-08-03 08:24:01
奧匈成個散左
匈牙利無左六成領土
奧地利由幾百年歐洲大佬變左廢小國都唔叫炒得多?
德意志帝國冇左既地少好多啦
係凡爾賽條約擺到明法國佬要清舊數報復
2020-08-03 08:38:24
呢個地區真係好靚
野食又好食到痴媽筋
2020-08-03 08:40:13
2020-08-03 08:51:36
程度題已經好難 仲加上追溯成百年歷史⋯
2020-08-03 09:43:12
佢清算奧匈係做到好撚足
佢用同一個做法對德國仲點會有二戰
當然可能係一個更碎既中歐直接俾蘇聯赤化
2020-08-03 09:49:45
2020-08-03 10:24:54
凡爾賽條約用當時標準黎睇唔算苛刻

德國同俄國簽嘅和約仲苛刻啦
何況假如德國贏左,佢地打算提出嘅和約條件應該比凡爾賽有過之無不及
2020-08-03 10:26:42
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Ruhr

occupation of Ruhr係1923-25年嘅事
你係咪記錯左時序?
2020-08-03 10:33:02
仲有比人笑輸比越共
明明二戰極速投降係明智
2020-08-03 10:38:57
德國賠款其實後來通過多次談判cut左好多

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_reparations
Due to the lack of reparation payments by Germany, France occupied the Ruhr in 1923 to enforce payments, causing an international crisis that resulted in the implementation of the Dawes Plan in 1924. This plan outlined a new payment method and raised international loans to help Germany to meet its reparation commitments. Despite this, by 1928 Germany called for a new payment plan, resulting in the Young Plan that established the German reparation requirements at 112 billion marks (US$26.3 billion) and created a schedule of payments that would see Germany complete payments by 1988. With the collapse of the German economy in 1931, reparations were suspended for a year and in 1932 during the Lausanne Conference they were cancelled altogether. Between 1919 and 1932, Germany paid less than 21 billion marks in reparations.

更加唔好提違反條約 靜靜雞rearmament
2020-08-03 10:42:46
yep

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_reparations
Due to the lack of reparation payments by Germany, France occupied the Ruhr in 1923 to enforce payments, causing an international crisis that resulted in the implementation of the Dawes Plan in 1924. This plan outlined a new payment method and raised international loans to help Germany to meet its reparation commitments. Despite this, by 1928 Germany called for a new payment plan, resulting in the Young Plan that established the German reparation requirements at 112 billion marks (US$26.3 billion) and created a schedule of payments that would see Germany complete payments by 1988. With the collapse of the German economy in 1931, reparations were suspended for a year and in 1932 during the Lausanne Conference they were cancelled altogether. Between 1919 and 1932, Germany paid less than 21 billion marks in reparations.
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