Leveraged ETF 討論區 (4)

Outliers

1001 回覆
8 Like 0 Dislike
FX戰士くるみ 2021-11-14 05:20:51
你可以用債etf去令成個portfolio變得更穩定
例如all in QLD 其實不及35% TQQQ 30% QLD 35% TMF
但係後者就算跌市都可以保證portfolio唔受大影響
FX戰士くるみ 2021-11-14 05:43:59
有冇計過將你cash pool一半/全部放入TLT/TMF會點
放入upro即規則不變
FX戰士くるみ 2021-11-14 05:50:09
駁佢放內銀做乜唔放美銀
FX戰士くるみ 2021-11-14 05:57:04
好片 d配圖好舒服
唯一有問題既係佢論證ARK個feedback loop既時候
佢引用既時段係成個市一齊爆升既時候 你果幾隻跟住升好難代表到乜野
ARK本身揀既股亦都偏向volatile 大市升既時候呢堆股升得比大市更多亦為正常
要將呢d factor拎走曬先有辦法數到個feedback loop影響幾大
FX戰士くるみ 2021-11-14 06:26:46
At the end of the day我個結論就係佢跑唔贏200% QQQ 所以我選擇TQQQ/TMF
FX戰士くるみ 2021-11-14 06:55:34
我有諗過如果個個都咁諗 個市場咪會對科創/startup好不利
FX戰士くるみ 2021-11-14 09:35:17
真正頭啖湯IPO之前就入左啦 輪唔到我地
RABU連 2021-11-14 10:25:51
咁多位早晨
諗住TQQQ得咁少數據,連08年都冇包,就想自己用返nasdaq 100 backward simulation返之前嘅數字出唻做portfolio test

首先就將每日nasdaq 100個變化同返實際TQQQ嘅變化比較,咁多年嘅平均difference只有+0.09%
中間有啲extreme values但因為有時個changes真係好細,所以個相對difference會好大咁我都接受到
到呢度睇落都ok啦,基本冇計錯數先

問題就唻嘞,實際backward simulation之後再比較返TQQQ個實際價,每日嘅% difference就好難睇(圖)
唔好講+-3%,甚至係有段長時間都keep住-5%以上…
雖然平均difference只係-3.1%,叫做接受到,但如果每日個走勢係咁嘅話,對一個path dependent嘅portfolio我諗都係冇咩價值,不堪用了
有冇巴打出手

FX戰士くるみ 2021-11-14 10:56:07
有冇減番0.95%管理費
另一個誤差來自swap既利息
你去睇佢report就知道 佢同唔同銀行簽swap要比一筆利息
雖然係risk free rate但係錢黎 長遠會有0.5~1%誤差
呢個rate每間銀行每次簽都可以改變
我聽番黎既就係呢筆成本係唔會計入每年0.95%入面
(你諗下TQQQ有210% asset係swap 個rate由0.35~0.9%不等
當佢係0.5%好啦 0.5% * 210% = 1.05%已經回到本啦)
而係透過製造/消滅ETF股票既過程入面manipulate個價令到現價會反映埋呢一筆費用
不過聽落好唔make sense 因為佢prospectus冇提過呢d野
但我搵唔到更好既解釋 網上有人問但係冇人解

但如果呢筆費用係存在既話 300% QQQ對TQQQ既溢價應該係一路向上至係 除非佢中間可以做到負息既swap
逆插玫瑰 2021-11-14 11:05:17
屌,坐緊隻OOTO
FX戰士くるみ 2021-11-14 11:06:30
1.05%已經回唔到本啦*
--------
btw如果你得5%誤差已經唔錯
Hedgiefunie個simulation入面佢既simulated UPRO係呢十年都係-3%到
而且條curve走法同你差唔多
https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=272007&start=1050#p4426310
之後果十幾頁都係討論simulation 我就冇心機睇曬啦但巴打可以參考下
FX戰士くるみ 2021-11-14 11:16:22
https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=272640&p=4426315#p4424417

更舊既data會受佢地參考既拆息率對象所影響 (LIBOR vs fed rate etc)
另一個問題係weekend會白食個rate
---
I think I finally got to the bottom of this. LETFs just do NOT resell their swaps (or futures) entire positions at the end of the day ...This may involve some buying/selling of their regular index positions as well as some buying/selling of their swap/future positions, but this is an INCREMENTAL process.
...
The indirect implication of such incremental considerations is that, at the end of the week (or before a holiday), the LETF keeps its position with swaps/futures, according to the targeted market exposure. And then over the week-end/holidays, well, the borrowing costs keep adding up.
...
I actually verified it by comparing the MSCI USA Leveraged 2X data series to the theoretical 2x leveraged model...when using a LIBOR/overnight data series while forcing the non-trading days to zero borrowing costs, this just doesn't match. When using a LIBOR/overnight data series while leaving the rates as is for non-trading days, funny, it matches perfectly. Same applies to S&P 500 Leveraged/Inverse 2x data series (I'll discuss special considerations about the regular S&P 500 leveraged series in the next post). And as I'll explain later, this also better matches the LETF actuals. A solid reasoning confirmed by empirical data from multiple independent sources, I think we're on solid ground here.
Ju88 2021-11-14 12:23:54
加息嘅時候 債ETF都跌?
荃蒼tqqq 2021-11-14 12:23:57
大把有錢人唔係咁諗,專門投資初創,窮撚跟住有錢人走就夠
FX戰士くるみ 2021-11-14 12:38:38
https://lih.kg/bdofjnV
https://lih.kg/uGqRJRX
td;lr 加息對長期息口會造成短期波動而長期影響不大
同時提供防守力(跌市穩定portfolio/購買力)既作用不變
FX戰士くるみ 2021-11-14 13:10:20
冇直接寫但係annual report到swap agreement個notional amount係固定既
所以應該用USD
吹水台自選台熱 門最 新手機台時事台政事台World體育台娛樂台動漫台Apps台遊戲台影視台講故台健康台感情台家庭台潮流台美容台上班台財經台房屋台飲食台旅遊台學術台校園台汽車台音樂台創意台硬件台電器台攝影台玩具台寵物台軟件台活動台電訊台直播台站務台黑 洞