[討論]點睇藥劑師

回應返樓主
係呢一刻pharm嘅最大作用係幫手check吓drug-drug interaction同坐counter做吓counselling
不過愈來愈多地方用electronic prescription, 電腦自己check埋

未來睇吓pharm可唔可以向clinical發展吓，真係上Ward audit吓啲藥，俾吓alternative choice

但係首先要上面有錢分到俾pharm

clinical可以點發展？政府批唔批錢，第一時間考慮ｇｅ肯定唔係藥劑師。

所以先話藥劑師係 overtrained and underutilized。Interaction checker一定唔夠database做；counselling 又唔夠GP黎。做medical sales就岩岩好，但如果你係老細，都唔會請個藥劑畢業去sale佢D藥啦。

自己覺得pharm前景真係麻麻, 似乎會畀AI取代, 不過呢
https://www.replacedbyrobot.info/
oxford 個study又話唔易被replace

有無行內人講下?

PS 香港做HCP慘過食屎

ＴＬ；ＤＲ
我諗佢指ＧＥ取代係講緊成個工業都冇左。
即係咁，大學＝藥廠＝藥劑師...etc.,係環環相扣，好難打斷其中一個關係。
只係個Ｄｅｍａｎｄ冇以前咁高，ＲＯＬＥ又俾人搶埋，咁同「取代」有乜兩樣

個人覺得係好似無人駕駛車咁
出事邊個揹飛

真係慘，藥劑師的存在用黎揹飛

根本上 係香港 成個醫療體系入面 只需要醫生
其他HCP Allied health 都係多餘

Yes, 一日唔改變 一日都發唔到圍

當年asso讀呢瓣
搵唔到野做
轉行做physical lab

當年asso讀呢瓣
搵唔到野做
轉行做physical lab

asso. 就咪拎出黎講啦

今日講少少。

藥劑師確實係可以用做健康大使，推廣健康資訊，但係大眾點睇藥劑師呢？

Public perception - 1

［１］Public perception on the role of community pharmacists in self-medication and self-care in Hong Kong

Abstract
... 68% agreed that they would consult a pharmacist before using OTC product but only 45% agreed that pharmacists could play a leading role in self-care. ...

...The role of pharmacists in Hong Kong, however, mainly focuses on medication management and is much more limited 例如中醫 compared to many western countries....

...Those who did not agree believed that pharmacists should not take the leading role (n = 325; 67.1%) and were not familiar with the role of pharmacists (n = 80, 16.6%). ...

個人覺得係好似無人駕駛車咁
出事邊個揹飛

真係慘，藥劑師的存在用黎揹飛

仲有俾姑娘打電話嚟問嘢

Public perception - 2

［２］Public’s perception and satisfaction on the roles and services provided by pharmacists – Cross sectional survey in Sultanate of Oman

我唔係係中東讀書，不過呢地Ｄ人好似好睇得起藥劑師

3.1. Perception

The median perception score based on all questions related to perception was 44 (IQR 5) out of a possible maximum score of 55 which represents a good score. Even though vast majority of the participants considered pharmacists as an expert in matters related to drugs, nearly 47% of them considered them to be mere vendors/dispensers of drugs; Table 2. Majority (62%) of the participants indicated that the pharmacists could provide extended services such as health screening services; blood pressure monitoring, blood sugar monitoring.

3.2. Satisfaction

The median satisfaction score based on all questions related to satisfaction was 34 (IQR 7) out of a possible maximum score of 45 which represents a moderate score. A good number of participants were concerned about the privacy at the pharmacy counter as well as the time spent by the pharmacists for each patient; Table 3. But, 63.6% of participants stated that they were satisfied with the relationship that pharmacists maintain with them.

Public perception - 3

［３］Job satisfaction, organisation commitment and retention in the public workforce: a survey among pharmacists in Malaysia.

The mean job satisfaction and organisational commitment score were 58.09 (standard deviation (SD) 11.83) and 53.46 (SD 6.65) respectively out of a maximum possible score of 90.

［４］Quantitative study evaluating perception of general public towards role of pharmacist in health care system of Pakistan.

...In developed countries, studies showed that pharmacists were willing to provide evidence based advice to people. It also showed that patients believed that they were at lower risk if they were able to meet with a pharmacist
regularly, and the pharmacist was identified as the predominant source of information for medicines... (4-6).

［５］How to enhance public health service utilization in community pharmacy?: general public and health providers' perspectives.

...Over the past decade, effort has been put into changing the role of the community pharmacists (PHs) from that of a drug compounder/supplier toward
a provider of public health services, along with high expectations on how community pharmacies can best be used.1,2...

...Reviews of the general public’s attitudes toward community pharmacy
services indicate that the pharmacy is not universally recognized as a source of general health information. They appear to view pharmacies as a source of prescribed and over-the-counter medicines and advice regarding minor health problems.10-12

醫藥分家香港難做到其中一個原因係煩，你試下d人睇完醫生叫佢去藥房執藥，香港人唔暴動都似
利申，buy 醫藥分家

回應返樓主
係呢一刻pharm嘅最大作用係幫手check吓drug-drug interaction同坐counter做吓counselling
不過愈來愈多地方用electronic prescription, 電腦自己check埋

未來睇吓pharm可唔可以向clinical發展吓，真係上Ward audit吓啲藥，俾吓alternative choice

但係首先要上面有錢分到俾pharm

clinical可以點發展？政府批唔批錢，第一時間考慮ｇｅ肯定唔係藥劑師。

所以先話藥劑師係 overtrained and underutilized。Interaction checker一定唔夠database做；counselling 又唔夠GP黎。做medical sales就岩岩好，但如果你係老細，都唔會請個藥劑畢業去sale佢D藥啦。

咁講啦，行唔行clinical其實講到底咪又係上面班大醫生覺得有冇需求

咁係咪而家冇需求？我諗需求係有，只係d醫生唔aware

between呢到睇黎冇乜人有性趣討論呢範

回應返樓主
係呢一刻pharm嘅最大作用係幫手check吓drug-drug interaction同坐counter做吓counselling
不過愈來愈多地方用electronic prescription, 電腦自己check埋

未來睇吓pharm可唔可以向clinical發展吓，真係上Ward audit吓啲藥，俾吓alternative choice

但係首先要上面有錢分到俾pharm

clinical可以點發展？政府批唔批錢，第一時間考慮ｇｅ肯定唔係藥劑師。

所以先話藥劑師係 overtrained and underutilized。Interaction checker一定唔夠database做；counselling 又唔夠GP黎。做medical sales就岩岩好，但如果你係老細，都唔會請個藥劑畢業去sale佢D藥啦。

咁講啦，行唔行clinical其實講到底咪又係上面班大醫生覺得有冇需求

咁係咪而家冇需求？我諗需求係有，只係d醫生唔aware

between呢到睇黎冇乜人有性趣討論呢範

需求係有，醫生亦都有留意，問題你搞醫藥分家即係搵醫生份糧黎搞。要數醫藥分家的好處壞處多多都有，不過講完都係不了了之。

醫藥分家香港難做到其中一個原因係煩，你試下d人睇完醫生叫佢去藥房執藥，香港人唔暴動都似
利申，buy 醫藥分家

你睇公立醫院個醫生診完症即刻俾藥你？

回應返樓主
係呢一刻pharm嘅最大作用係幫手check吓drug-drug interaction同坐counter做吓counselling
不過愈來愈多地方用electronic prescription, 電腦自己check埋

未來睇吓pharm可唔可以向clinical發展吓，真係上Ward audit吓啲藥，俾吓alternative choice

但係首先要上面有錢分到俾pharm

clinical可以點發展？政府批唔批錢，第一時間考慮ｇｅ肯定唔係藥劑師。

所以先話藥劑師係 overtrained and underutilized。Interaction checker一定唔夠database做；counselling 又唔夠GP黎。做medical sales就岩岩好，但如果你係老細，都唔會請個藥劑畢業去sale佢D藥啦。

咁講啦，行唔行clinical其實講到底咪又係上面班大醫生覺得有冇需求

咁係咪而家冇需求？我諗需求係有，只係d醫生唔aware

between呢到睇黎冇乜人有性趣討論呢範

需求係有，醫生亦都有留意，問題你搞醫藥分家即係搵醫生份糧黎搞。要數醫藥分家的好處壞處多多都有，不過講完都係不了了之。

講緊醫院啦，醫藥分家個範圍比較喺community入面

醫院入面係寧願終日打落黎問d超有質素嘅問題，都唔會放一個人喺上面

至於醫藥分家，其實我都唔明點解社會唔太多人buy，班醫生淨係藥錢已經袋到

醫藥分家香港難做到其中一個原因係煩，你試下d人睇完醫生叫佢去藥房執藥，香港人唔暴動都似
利申，buy 醫藥分家

你睇公立醫院個醫生診完症即刻俾藥你？

落藥房交單攞飛，好彩嘅睇下一個鐘後可能出到門口

Public perception - 4

１）懶得再搵落去，但係目前黎睇，公眾對藥劑師ge印象係因應返個地區政策。

２）好幸運地搵到Public perception ... in Hong Kong，但係

＂Less than half of the (497/1102; 45.1%) respondents agreed that pharmacists could play a leading role in patient self-care of chronic diseases, whereas 492 (44.6%) disagreed and 113 (10.3%) were neutral.＂

回應返樓主
係呢一刻pharm嘅最大作用係幫手check吓drug-drug interaction同坐counter做吓counselling
不過愈來愈多地方用electronic prescription, 電腦自己check埋

未來睇吓pharm可唔可以向clinical發展吓，真係上Ward audit吓啲藥，俾吓alternative choice

但係首先要上面有錢分到俾pharm

clinical可以點發展？政府批唔批錢，第一時間考慮ｇｅ肯定唔係藥劑師。

所以先話藥劑師係 overtrained and underutilized。Interaction checker一定唔夠database做；counselling 又唔夠GP黎。做medical sales就岩岩好，但如果你係老細，都唔會請個藥劑畢業去sale佢D藥啦。

咁講啦，行唔行clinical其實講到底咪又係上面班大醫生覺得有冇需求

咁係咪而家冇需求？我諗需求係有，只係d醫生唔aware

between呢到睇黎冇乜人有性趣討論呢範

需求係有，醫生亦都有留意，問題你搞醫藥分家即係搵醫生份糧黎搞。要數醫藥分家的好處壞處多多都有，不過講完都係不了了之。

講緊醫院啦，醫藥分家個範圍比較喺community入面

醫院入面係寧願終日打落黎問d超有質素嘅問題，都唔會放一個人喺上面

至於醫藥分家，其實我都唔明點解社會唔太多人buy，班醫生淨係藥錢已經袋到

我又唔係香港醫院做，點答你？而且有on-site pharmacist，基本上藥劑師真係可以ａｐｐｌｙ到佢ｇｅ知識去ｉｎｔｅｒｖｅｎｅ，換句話說，淨係係醫院個setting 先做？

至於醫藥分家，你睇返第一頁ｇｅ話，最主張個爭論係有冇cut overall health expenditure。社會唔多人buy? 邊到睇返黎？

回應返樓主
係呢一刻pharm嘅最大作用係幫手check吓drug-drug interaction同坐counter做吓counselling
不過愈來愈多地方用electronic prescription, 電腦自己check埋

未來睇吓pharm可唔可以向clinical發展吓，真係上Ward audit吓啲藥，俾吓alternative choice

但係首先要上面有錢分到俾pharm

clinical可以點發展？政府批唔批錢，第一時間考慮ｇｅ肯定唔係藥劑師。

所以先話藥劑師係 overtrained and underutilized。Interaction checker一定唔夠database做；counselling 又唔夠GP黎。做medical sales就岩岩好，但如果你係老細，都唔會請個藥劑畢業去sale佢D藥啦。

咁講啦，行唔行clinical其實講到底咪又係上面班大醫生覺得有冇需求

咁係咪而家冇需求？我諗需求係有，只係d醫生唔aware

between呢到睇黎冇乜人有性趣討論呢範

需求係有，醫生亦都有留意，問題你搞醫藥分家即係搵醫生份糧黎搞。要數醫藥分家的好處壞處多多都有，不過講完都係不了了之。

講緊醫院啦，醫藥分家個範圍比較喺community入面

醫院入面係寧願終日打落黎問d超有質素嘅問題，都唔會放一個人喺上面

至於醫藥分家，其實我都唔明點解社會唔太多人buy，班醫生淨係藥錢已經袋到

我又唔係香港醫院做，點答你？而且有on-site pharmacist，基本上藥劑師真係可以ａｐｐｌｙ到佢ｇｅ知識去ｉｎｔｅｒｖｅｎｅ，換句話說，淨係係醫院個setting 先做？

至於醫藥分家，你睇返第一頁ｇｅ話，最主張個爭論係有冇cut overall health expenditure。社會唔多人buy? 邊到睇返黎？

樓上somewhere都話啦，香港人覺得跑兩場煩
屌如果大環境係buy真係會拖到而家都做唔到咩

醫藥分家香港難做到其中一個原因係煩，你試下d人睇完醫生叫佢去藥房執藥，香港人唔暴動都似
利申，buy 醫藥分家

你睇公立醫院個醫生診完症即刻俾藥你？

落藥房交單攞飛，好彩嘅睇下一個鐘後可能出到門口

遞張紙俾藥劑師都煩，我有個更好的方法。

回應返樓主
係呢一刻pharm嘅最大作用係幫手check吓drug-drug interaction同坐counter做吓counselling
不過愈來愈多地方用electronic prescription, 電腦自己check埋

未來睇吓pharm可唔可以向clinical發展吓，真係上Ward audit吓啲藥，俾吓alternative choice

但係首先要上面有錢分到俾pharm

clinical可以點發展？政府批唔批錢，第一時間考慮ｇｅ肯定唔係藥劑師。

所以先話藥劑師係 overtrained and underutilized。Interaction checker一定唔夠database做；counselling 又唔夠GP黎。做medical sales就岩岩好，但如果你係老細，都唔會請個藥劑畢業去sale佢D藥啦。

咁講啦，行唔行clinical其實講到底咪又係上面班大醫生覺得有冇需求

咁係咪而家冇需求？我諗需求係有，只係d醫生唔aware

between呢到睇黎冇乜人有性趣討論呢範

需求係有，醫生亦都有留意，問題你搞醫藥分家即係搵醫生份糧黎搞。要數醫藥分家的好處壞處多多都有，不過講完都係不了了之。

講緊醫院啦，醫藥分家個範圍比較喺community入面

醫院入面係寧願終日打落黎問d超有質素嘅問題，都唔會放一個人喺上面

至於醫藥分家，其實我都唔明點解社會唔太多人buy，班醫生淨係藥錢已經袋到

我又唔係香港醫院做，點答你？而且有on-site pharmacist，基本上藥劑師真係可以ａｐｐｌｙ到佢ｇｅ知識去ｉｎｔｅｒｖｅｎｅ，換句話說，淨係係醫院個setting 先做？

至於醫藥分家，你睇返第一頁ｇｅ話，最主張個爭論係有冇cut overall health expenditure。社會唔多人buy? 邊到睇返黎？

樓上somewhere都話啦，香港人覺得跑兩場煩
屌如果大環境係buy真係會拖到而家都做唔到咩

醫藥分家香港難做到其中一個原因係煩，你試下d人睇完醫生叫佢去藥房執藥，香港人唔暴動都似
利申，buy 醫藥分家

你睇公立醫院個醫生診完症即刻俾藥你？

落藥房交單攞飛，好彩嘅睇下一個鐘後可能出到門口

睇一次公立醫院門診真係用成日
睇醫生要等
睇完約排期/抽血要等
交藥單要等
拿藥又要等

最灰係opd個醫生去左eot
喺出面白坐

屌咁多人用藥名嘅做user

醫藥分家香港難做到其中一個原因係煩，你試下d人睇完醫生叫佢去藥房執藥，香港人唔暴動都似
利申，buy 醫藥分家

你睇公立醫院個醫生診完症即刻俾藥你？

落藥房交單攞飛，好彩嘅睇下一個鐘後可能出到門口

遞張紙俾藥劑師都煩，我有個更好的方法。

Sor, 講得唔清楚，i mean如果apply落私立嗰啲都係咁做的話

醫藥分家香港難做到其中一個原因係煩，你試下d人睇完醫生叫佢去藥房執藥，香港人唔暴動都似
利申，buy 醫藥分家

你睇公立醫院個醫生診完症即刻俾藥你？

落藥房交單攞飛，好彩嘅睇下一個鐘後可能出到門口

遞張紙俾藥劑師都煩，我有個更好的方法。

Sor, 講得唔清楚，i mean如果apply落私立嗰啲都係咁做的話

Anyway 我buy 醫藥分家，某程度上藥劑師對藥係清楚過醫生，同埋有啲病根本就唔需要睇醫生，藥劑師都可以handle, 我係外國生活都習慣呢種模式