政府干預的確係左派
但政府干預係講緊wealth redistributiom
同極權政府有關係但唔相等
人權平等本身係比較左
但依家通常美國左右都支持人權
但左係講equal outcome
右係講equal right
我發現連登仔真係唔識分左翼同右翼
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大把低能兒唔識分左翼 左派
問題係左右翼思想根本好清晰,無咩可以討論,而家係屌緊D人係唔係都標籤人左膠
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左翼支持自由平等 右翼支持傳統及社會階級
一般而言支持自由平等既通常會搞多啲抗爭 所以被視為激進啲 好多人就自然將左翼同激進行為掛勾
但美國唔同 因為自由平等行動已經搞左好多年 甚至有唔少人濫用平等名號 e.g. 女權 所以開始出現激進既右派 即係特朗普 佢就係想放番社會經濟同繁榮重上正軌 唔好一味比班支持自由平等既大愛左膠話事
其實美國既話睇黨名就已經分到 民主黨(左派)追求自由 共和黨(右派)支持繁榮
一般而言支持自由平等既通常會搞多啲抗爭 所以被視為激進啲 好多人就自然將左翼同激進行為掛勾
但美國唔同 因為自由平等行動已經搞左好多年 甚至有唔少人濫用平等名號 e.g. 女權 所以開始出現激進既右派 即係特朗普 佢就係想放番社會經濟同繁榮重上正軌 唔好一味比班支持自由平等既大愛左膠話事
其實美國既話睇黨名就已經分到 民主黨(左派)追求自由 共和黨(右派)支持繁榮
你講緊嘅free speech係講緊邊一group人嘅free speech先
hate speech本身令某啲特定群體噤聲㗎
所以你唔禁止hate speech,其實都係以少數群體嘅free speech作為代價
btw，compelled speech單嘢你係講緊加拿大bill c-16？
條法例無話過你用錯gender pronoun就會坐監啊
https://www.cba.org/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=be34d5a4-8850-40a0-beea-432eeb762d7f
//For those compelled to speak and act in truth, however unpopular, truth is included in those defences.
Nothing in the section compels the use or avoidance of particular words in public as long as they are not
used in their most extreme manifestations with the intention of promoting the level of abhorrence,
delegitimization and rejection that produces feelings of hatred against identifiable groups.
Those concerned that they could be criminalized for their repugnant or offensive ideas fail to
understand a crucial distinction in the law. As the Supreme Court of Canada has explained:
The distinction between the expression of repugnant ideas and expression which exposes
groups to hatred is crucial to understanding the proper application of hate speech
prohibitions. Hate speech legislation is not aimed at discouraging repugnant or offensive
ideas. It does not, for example, prohibit expression which debates the merits of reducing the
rights of vulnerable groups in society. It only restricts the use of expression exposing them
to hatred as a part of that debate. It does not target the ideas, but their mode of expression
in public and the effect that this mode of expression may have.1//
hate speech本身令某啲特定群體噤聲㗎
所以你唔禁止hate speech,其實都係以少數群體嘅free speech作為代價
btw，compelled speech單嘢你係講緊加拿大bill c-16？
條法例無話過你用錯gender pronoun就會坐監啊
https://www.cba.org/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=be34d5a4-8850-40a0-beea-432eeb762d7f
//For those compelled to speak and act in truth, however unpopular, truth is included in those defences.
Nothing in the section compels the use or avoidance of particular words in public as long as they are not
used in their most extreme manifestations with the intention of promoting the level of abhorrence,
delegitimization and rejection that produces feelings of hatred against identifiable groups.
Those concerned that they could be criminalized for their repugnant or offensive ideas fail to
understand a crucial distinction in the law. As the Supreme Court of Canada has explained:
The distinction between the expression of repugnant ideas and expression which exposes
groups to hatred is crucial to understanding the proper application of hate speech
prohibitions. Hate speech legislation is not aimed at discouraging repugnant or offensive
ideas. It does not, for example, prohibit expression which debates the merits of reducing the
rights of vulnerable groups in society. It only restricts the use of expression exposing them
to hatred as a part of that debate. It does not target the ideas, but their mode of expression
in public and the effect that this mode of expression may have.1//
我覺得呢種equal outcome同埋equal right嘅二元對立有啲誤導
首先唔見得依家嘅左翼會要求所有人收入相等啦嘛
佢地通常都係講緊某啲群體可能響工作等待遇上同主流群體有落差
所以先ask for equal outcome
響呢個層面
其實左翼都係支持equal right㗎
只不過右翼覺得法律條文上保障咗平等權利就ok
左翼就認為要響落實埋先得
係formal VS substantive
首先唔見得依家嘅左翼會要求所有人收入相等啦嘛
佢地通常都係講緊某啲群體可能響工作等待遇上同主流群體有落差
所以先ask for equal outcome
響呢個層面
其實左翼都係支持equal right㗎
只不過右翼覺得法律條文上保障咗平等權利就ok
左翼就認為要響落實埋先得
係formal VS substantive
到底連登仔點由打倒地產霸權演化到支持neoliberalism 
係架啦 左右又唔識分
唔啱心水就屈咗係左膠先
父權女權又撈亂
明明係父權思想又搞錯走去屌係女權錯
平時睇完真係得啖笑
唔啱心水就屈咗係左膠先
父權女權又撈亂
明明係父權思想又搞錯走去屌係女權錯
平時睇完真係得啖笑
因為宗主國都係
咁真係要討論既話
起碼要知左右翼係可以分政治上同經濟上
利申政治偏左 經濟偏右
起碼要知左右翼係可以分政治上同經濟上
利申政治偏左 經濟偏右
你會唔會係預先假設左人地學西方？
舉例，我經濟上支持低稅率、保守理財
但支持兩性平權
又係「學西方學唔足」？
舉例，我經濟上支持低稅率、保守理財
但支持兩性平權
又係「學西方學唔足」？
所以中共係咪應該係右派
其實政治光譜有4個面向，大陸係右authorization
淨係講左右會比大陸呃左
支共係掛住左派名既極右政權
唔係咩叫「支國特色社會主義」
唔係咩叫「支國特色社會主義」
因為有人亂用右翼法西斯標籤人
其實右派都有兩種一種係libertarian
一種係conservative
呢個要分清楚
一種係conservative
呢個要分清楚