以前學急救教拍背脊都有講成人可以用,因為對方可能係肥胖或孕婦
我自己試過見有人噎親,拍背幫佢吐返啲菜出黎
其實我覺得都係要睇番research evidence 囉.
等於如果有條友噎親, 你攞隻手盲目咁去"了"佢個喉嚨, 其實好大機會會將啲嘢越推越入. 但係都有機會可能好彩嘅話你可以將啲嘢"了"返出嚟, 咁一兩個case成功唔代表個個都應該咁做嘅
以前學急救教拍背脊都有講成人可以用,因為對方可能係肥胖或孕婦
我自己試過見有人噎親,拍背幫佢吐返啲菜出黎
唔識唔好衝到出黎柒拍乜撚嘢背如果真係拍背就死撚咗啦拍背邊有錯?
on99 咁大個人少少常識都無
正確急救唔係拍背
不如你叫佢用筷子喺個頭上面大叫骨落丫戇鳩
"Severe choking: back blows and abdominal thrusts
Where choking is severe, the person will not be able to speak, cry, cough or breathe. Without help, they will eventually become unconscious.
To help an adult or child over one year old:
Stand behind the person and slightly to one side. Support their chest with one hand. Lean the person forward so that the object blocking their airway will come out of their mouth, rather than moving further down.
Give up to five sharp blows between the person's shoulder blades with the heel of your hand. (The heel is between the palm of your hand and your wrist).
Check if the blockage has cleared.
If not, give up to five abdominal thrusts (see below)."
-NHS, 2015
Link
https://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/2301.aspx?categoryid=72
怕你on99唔識字
先拍5下背 如果未清除異物就進行5次推腹法
其實每個地方嘅practice唔一定一樣.
等於我嗰陣響英國學basic life support, 佢地都冇教我摸pulse.
但係 American heart Association 果套係有教摸pulse. 大家嘅rationale唔同
我嗰陣喺英國學呢, 嗰條友就同我講話摸pulse 唔係一個好reliable嘅方法去assess個patient, 佢話因為佢話有啲人可能係好肥呀定點, 話其實你未必真係可以次次好definate 咁摸到. 果陣啲導師教就係用耳仔痴埋去patient 個口度, 睇下佢有冇呼吸同埋睇chest movement喎. 有懷疑就即刻cpr囉
但係你呀american heart association 果一套係如果你有pulse, 但係冇呼吸的話你係做rescue breathing 之嘛.
咁佢個assumption 係你可以準確地assess 到每一個人嘅脈搏囉....
咁講真呢d 野, 我又覺得冇話邊個啱曬㗎喎, 睇你咩角度去睇嗰件事嘅啫 . 大家practice唔同
上面太大段唔quote其實冇話唔得。不過風險大左之嘛 (我覺得)。
以前試過係a&e見到patient有pulse都照搓左一陣喎
收啦一早就廢咗呢啲打冷鐘 時間停止嘅19 鳩嘢啦成日攞國際學校比 諗下人地啲學生咩質素 一般官校啲學生又咩質素,如果冇打冷鐘,真係揾狗理你
人地外國學校國際學校使撚撚狗噉撚啲學生咩
依家主流香港學校擺到明就工廠式管理
教畜人同制度都僵化, 冇嚟人性化
係值得批評
重有識教就唔使咁強調罰則
嚇到班學生趕頭趕命咁衝去啦
根本就係學校唔撚識教
學生係人唔係童工奴隸呀
理論上來講.......fracture ribs應該入於CPR本身己經有的risk 來...上面太大段唔quote其實冇話唔得。不過風險大左之嘛 (我覺得)。
以前試過係a&e見到patient有pulse都照搓左一陣喎
竟然香港有醫生夠膽?
如果rib # 會入邊個數
你一個high quality cpr 襟落去起碼個深度要五cm, 平均差唔多一秒要㩒1.5至兩下其實斷肋骨真係唔出奇.
同埋你去搓人嘅時候, 其實係冇時間俾你響度慢慢度位又諗呢樣又諗嗰樣, 因為做一個resuscitation嘅時候compression係好重要, 盡量都唔應該令到compression同compression之間嘅時間相隔太長
利申: 9up
理論上來講.......fracture ribs應該入於CPR本身己經有的risk 來...上面太大段唔quote其實冇話唔得。不過風險大左之嘛 (我覺得)。
以前試過係a&e見到patient有pulse都照搓左一陣喎
竟然香港有醫生夠膽?
如果rib # 會入邊個數
你一個high quality cpr 襟落去起碼個深度要五cm, 平均差唔多一秒要㩒1.5至兩下其實斷肋骨真係唔出奇.
同埋你去搓人嘅時候, 其實係冇時間俾你響度慢慢度位又諗呢樣又諗嗰樣, 因為做一個resuscitation嘅時候compression係好重要, 盡量都唔應該令到compression同compression之間嘅時間相隔太長
利申: 9up
你9up段野係arm ge..
但aha bls/acls都係無pulse先搓
HA醫院既staff都係要bls training
上到court會唔會俾人問點解start cpr先
利申都係9up
究竟應該推腹先定cpr先
唔推就粒野塞住airway
推左先就可能延遲急救時間
利申無追post