TSMC美國廠終於封頂

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2024-02-25 20:33:54
呢單野係美國班工人知道呢單project一定會做
咪係度扭屎忽花
美國政府講明要起,班工人先咁玩姐
擺明係delay架啦 咪慢慢起囉
反正有其他地方 最主要係驚台灣俾人打 炸爛左無其他地方可以整姐
2024-02-25 21:33:15
而家講緊國家戰略資源
未來嘅戰爭靠曬粒U,唔會再派人上前線送死
萬一趕唔切攻台前走,俾中國拎到台積電就有排煩
所以大義當前,唔該美國班人權撚讓路
2024-02-25 21:34:27
似係比美國政府夾住要開
2024-02-25 22:09:03

當年美國搞爆日本匯價同股市
日本又拎到政治利益
美國又達成經濟目的
雙贏喎師兄
2024-02-25 22:15:39
藍嘅知識分子你就話唯利是圖唔計,黃絲大把冇讀書嘅中老坑、讀唔成書嘅細蚊仔就知識分子比例高
2024-02-25 22:45:31
啲廠唔明文同你嘈呀


不過用腳投票啫,2010-2020開得成嘅得22間。
但全世界晶圓廠需求有加無減
所以係去哂第度開都唔去美國
2024-02-25 22:50:49
鬼佬何只OT唔睬你
辦公時間都唔好俾咁多野佢做呀最好
而且佢地好多國家過咗某個工時出多咗糧就交多好多稅 所以佢地寧願唔撚柒做
2024-02-25 23:04:41
所以話上面好多人仲係用香港思維諗嘢

覺得美國工人可以做完一份再做秘撈

佢地覺得人地報稅簡單到香港咁,真係好似香咁多勞多得
極On9
2024-02-25 23:11:43
照你咁講,問題在美國工人的稅收問題,不在工會度。
2024-02-25 23:15:14
稅收問題係令佢地根本唔會打算多勞多得。

但無人話係單一問題

工會問題增加勞資談判難度,加勞工本身Motivation低,再加政府審批特別繁複
全部都係問題。
2024-02-25 23:26:29
有無統計因罷工/工會而停工幾多日?
2024-02-25 23:36:17
>你今天係蝕底,他旦美國唔會待薄你
你呢一個思維好支
2024-02-25 23:38:38
或者調翻轉,你今天唔配合,聽日佢咪再為難下你咁
討好當地政客不嬲都好緊要架啦
2024-02-25 23:45:12
因為鬼佬習慣用外國奴
2024-02-25 23:49:01
師兄請教下,共通點係邊?
2024-02-25 23:50:59
討好工會=lobbying fee
政客允許廠係度,係想利益工人,有税收,就有票
工會唔滿意,就算有廠D人有工作,都叫工人唔投呢個叫tsmc黎設廠既政客,政客無票/少左D票
滿足工會,工會唔投訴,政客有票;至少政客唔洗俾人嘈
咁佢咪係議會幫你爭取多個有利你既法案
2024-02-26 00:09:42
師兄係文盲?
2024-02-26 00:24:48
其實唔會因為事關所謂國家安全/中美競爭就唔洗討好當地勢力/考慮其他野,
不論係工會,定係工會支持既政客。
國會通過特別法案去唔理工會環保當然有方法,咁點解佢唔咁做?
2024-02-26 01:36:14
70年前矽谷咪係咁玩囉,
後尾轉型做IOT/Design,
咁型咪唔好入黎離開廠囉,
間廠得果40b, 要聯邦政府資助你15b
另外又要州政府資助你3b

入到嚟開廠又扮撚晒嘢,
想用外勞黎減低個人工
怨婦咁樣
2024-02-26 02:04:59
咪講到TSMC好想去咁

又要驚又要人嚟但又唔係方便
2024-02-26 02:52:55
1) 美國唔係共產黨,你可以選擇唔起廠
2) 你起廠都可以唔申請資助,冇人揸支槍迫你
3) Intel 都係咁起廠,人地完全冇問題,得你喺度怨婦咁嘈
4) 全個美國既建造業都係玩工會,唔係單獨針對你一個
5)另外,Samsung 都係Texas起緊廠,但人地完全做足功課,係得你間TSMC 先係咁垃圾

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyshih/2023/11/16/three-takeaways-from-samsungs-new-fab-in-taylor-texas/

We have heard foreign companies complain about how long it takes to build new facilities in the U.S. Building something of the scale of the Taylor is an extraordinarily complex process.

If materials arrive late or a building inspection approval is behind schedule, a lot of people end up waiting, costing hours or days before you can start making product and earning revenue. While I’m sure there were countless problems every day, you could feel the push to keep on schedule – it was palpable.

The company maintains a significant buffer of production materials on site to insulate themselves from supply chain disruptions, and you could see it staged carefully

Samsung clearly values having the city of Taylor as a partner. “We meet with them at least weekly. Most frequently, it's every day on inspection planning; we didn't have a single delay in any of our permits,” I was told.

In comparing permitting and inspections being done on time, the team at Taylor has reached parity with Korea in preventing any delays. The city reviews tens of thousands of permitting drawings with a turnaround typically less than a month. As my guide explained, “It's not just that the city needs to do their part, we need to make sure that we are structured so that we're ready to respond to every request we get from the city … we want to make sure that those design packages or those permits aren't sitting with us, we have to turn those as quickly as possible.”
2024-02-26 02:59:29
另外 Reddit 班人都覺得係TSMC 既問題

TSMC delays 3nm Arizona fab by a year, cites lack of U.S. subsidies and waning demand

https://www.reddit.com/r/phoenix/s/jD5MyZPiHf
2024-02-26 04:28:24
係,可唔可以講清楚少少?
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