[你問我儘量答] 係倫敦做左UX design 4-5年

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2020-09-13 00:10:23
2020-09-28 15:17:11
師兄我最近讀緊D UX research course
入面提到SUS, SEQ 依類research 方法
我想問工作實際上係唔係真係會用 / 基於依類research method 改進黎用?

定係, 只係純academic, 實際上根本唔係戈回事?

Thank you
2020-09-30 12:57:56
師兄我都係美國做緊UXUI
不過依加做緊間細既agency, 好想同你交流下!

Btw 今日開左個ux telegram group, 請入黎指教下啲後輩~
t.me/uxhongkong
2020-11-21 13:13:28
師兄有啲野想請教你 我宜家都做左2年幾ui ux designer 2年前係香港讀左個interactive media嘅degree 入面主要教ui ux嘅

我黎緊想去英國果邊讀過Master再搵工 自己就想讀多d UX 嘅野 但係我又好怕其實同degree 讀嘅野冇乜分別
於是就諗緊會唔會讀一啲Ergonomics/Human Factors 或者 HCI 但係又怕自己讀唔黎 因為冇理科底 師兄你有冇咩意見呀
2020-12-17 04:18:34
推下post
2020-12-17 04:41:37
喂hello sorry呀岩岩呢幾個月做嘢好chur差唔多日日OT(多嘢做+個人無work life balance + 有時日頭hea左 = gg)

我唔熟其他u喎
連登咁多勁人不如我拋磚引玉睇下有無其他人講下

Brunel 我識人之前係度讀digital service design嘅master
感覺對比係UCL係無咁多資源,無同其他機構partnership
(例如ucl係會有d bbc嘅designer黎下睇下大家做嘅嘢,有d research project 同佢地part,之前了解social technical system 我地去過london underground d office參觀)
同埋間大學唔係係central london
題外話:我最近呢10個月同緊佢地個書院個榮譽乜乜乜(fellows中文係乜我唔識翻譯)做緊project,佢地兩個係行內都幾出名嘅兩個designer

Loughborough 我知佢地design 係出名嘅。
有service design / innovation management 果d 讀
同埋都好似有d機會俾你同d唔同機構partner
(可能係我識果個人自己爭取到啦)

City 同ucl都係central london
都係會有同d 唔同機構partner

我自己打完上面呢堆嘢都覺得唔係好幫到手 sor
2020-12-17 04:49:09
學術問題,我喜歡!!

我自己畢左業之後一直都係做agency / consultancy side
可能inhouse 情況唔同啦

我自己黎講master有用過
做嘢無用過 搵唔到機會用
未去到一個位要用到SUS (好多時我都係做緊mvp d人會想make sure 個product 個大方向要搞掂左先,遲d先搞usability,which is true)
同埋有左個score 咁又點?個action point 係乜?
個客比較想知“咁即係點呀??”

我由於要做mvp / concept generation 果d所以我比較係做prototype testing (整個invision click得嘅prototype俾d人用下然後observe下問下嘢)然後joint底d point,summarise下d recommendation咁樣樣

如果你係d 重delivery (舊嘢要go live) or 你喺d usablity agency度做我諗應該要用多d 呢類嘅methodology。
2020-12-17 04:56:12
遲左兩個月見到
group已join
多多指教
2020-12-17 04:57:07
點解大家都覺得我係師兄
2020-12-17 05:01:01
我個UCL course就係HCI呀
有ergonomics,HCI module (唔知依家重有無,你可以check check)
我好多同學都唔是理科底(之前係design degree or 有d 完全唔關事嘅科 or 有d人轉行),都ok
可能有少少位會吃力掛
問下同學問下老師就ok啦
(反而對英文有信心唔好驚更重要)
2020-12-17 05:09:22
唔好諗太多「同degree讀嘅嘢無分別」
讀master係用黎:
- 攞沙紙
- 用呢一年黎搵intern做住先
- join d 學生先join 得嘅活動 / 比賽
- join 下hackathon / design jam
- 係你個master project 度做d 你知道你到時返工唔會有機會做嘅另類project
- take d 得意嘅course (例如我take 左個physical computing module,用laser cutting 整左個 arduino 視障人士相機。我依家返工畫緊wireframe都會FF想再做呢d嘢
- 幫你融入英國生活,明白英國文化
- 識人 (你要預左有部分時間係去同d coursemate去pub / student bar 9 hea架喇,或者去大學d免費event 飲免費酒。利申我唔飲得,好多時我都係飲水/果汁)
2020-12-18 02:36:43
多謝巴打解答
咁你覺得讀完HCI 所學嘅嘢係之後工作認唔應用到 因為我諗緊究竟讀HCI 定係再深造UX Design 同Service Design 果方面 會對第時做ux designer 有用啲
2020-12-18 02:39:19
嗚師兄你OT都咁用心應我 感動
2020-12-18 05:35:00
都好睇你個人個性格同埋專長適合乜嘅

我依家個team嘅前輩ss將ux designer嘅技能分成4個dimension
strategy
user research
information architecture (iA)
interaction design (ixD)

咁我攞我自己嘅skill set做例子啦。
以我嘅background(psy)黎講,我係user research強啦 (or at least this is what I tell people/people tends to think)
iA 就係d成個網架構嘅嘢啦,個網d嘢點layout(有d似幫人執屋咁,令黎到你個網/product嘅人搵到佢地要嘅嘢)
interaction design 就係比較係screen design上嘅嘢,d嘢係果版點擺,點解要咁擺,之類(我自己覺得我呢方面無咩信心但係我前輩覺得我ok....咁OK囉)
同埋我嘅graphic design / ui係好屎嘅
唉黎緊要redesign 自己個portfolio係branding/ui呢方面好無信心

而依家大家都講緊要T shape designer呀嘛
即係週身刀,有一兩把利嘅
咁你咪諗下依家你邊把刀最利囉
又諗下你有d咩無囉

利果d刀咁你可以繼續磨利佢囉
要磨利果d刀又唔係只係靠讀書嘅
可以透過我list 左讀master/讀書可以做果d嘢去磨囉。

好,咁你無果d嘢可以點acquire呢?
我個人會prefer 讀書就讀d hard knowledge / theory /難嘅嘢 , 然後自學d practical skill 類嘅嘢

d foundation 嘅knowlege 得閒可以用黎拋人,用黎係d客唔認同你嘅時候俾d theory佢聽話俾佢聽你個design有fitts law back up,同埋睇medium果d “10 ux ui must know psychology theory”嘅文嘅時候睇下佢係咪講廢嘢
不過其實講真工作上唔會成日用到
我會覺得點解讀書要讀,係因為你返左工就唔會有incentive要讀呢d嘢囉,而呢d嘢唔係你翻翻下工就會get到學得識嘅嘢

自學d practical skill 類嘅嘢
service design我會覺得係d要透過做project有實戰先會get嘅嘢
(可能我對service design無咁了解啦)
而且ux design /service design 都係d你一路做一路學就會get同埋學得快過你返學學嘅嘢

希望你get到我個思路
都係俾你參考啦
2020-12-18 05:36:30
唔洗客氣
遲d你幫返其他人就ok啦

tech / design呢行我覺得d人都好好,好肯幫你答你問題
我以前都有好多好人前輩幫過我
依家giving back to the commnity
2020-12-18 05:38:14
Someone once told me, if you have a choice (e.g. choice of two academic modules, or two seminars happening at the same time in a conference), always go for the topic you are least knowledgeable in.
This way you learn new things.

我覺得呢個係一個幾好嘅rule of thumb
2020-12-20 07:06:54
如果移民去英國搵工, employer係咪通常都淨係計喺英國嘅工作經驗
而家喺香港做咗ui/ux designer兩三年,本身諗住儲多啲錢之後去英國讀Master,但係又怕到時讀完Master出嚟做嘢,啲公司唔計香港嘅經驗,要拎返Fresh Grad人工
如果早啲過去就可以儲到多啲經驗,但係會變咗儲錢儲得冇咁快,始終喺香港可以同屋企人住,支出少好多
2020-12-21 22:12:49
employer係咪通常都淨係計喺英國嘅工作經驗

我唔sure但我覺得英國d hr/employer無咁衰
尤其是tech嘅嘢,transferrable嘅
(我 覺得 英國都幾睇transferrable skills/experience)
利申:覺得only
2020-12-23 20:52:27
見你讀完 undergrad 之後做咗陣嘢先讀返 master,你報 master 嘅時候點樣搵 academic reference?問返 undergrad 嘅 supervisors/professors 有冇遇到困難?

你又點同學校 show 你 undergrad 學嘅嘢同你 marketing 嘅工作經驗係幫到你讀你個 master?

英國普遍嘅 employers 係點睇一啲倫敦比較野雞嘅大學,例如 Goldsmiths、Burnel、Greenwich等等 (basically anything worse than Royal Holloway and QM)?

Cheers mate
2020-12-30 02:24:55
Reference:
太耐之前我已經唔記得。。。
佢application form有個位要填兩個referee嘅名+email address咁我咪填囉
我唔知關唔關事啦,我undergrad 同postgrad都係同一間大學可能咁會易d掛
MSc畢業之後我都有試過要填academic reference 我email返之前嘅tutor咁囉

Show my undergrad + marketing experience is related to master:
英國報大學通常都要寫篇文 personal statement
咁我咪係篇personal statement度吹囉
節錄我當年嘅personal statement (睇返好尷尬)
At work I apply the empirical training I received in my degree: whenever I implement a specific design feature, or execute a new marketing campaign I use case studies from successful projects and user data from similar sites to support my decisions. Eventually I have reached a stage which I would like to learn the theories behind natural and efficient interfaces and workflows, and ultimately develop methodologies for research purposes. Being a self-trained web designer, I can see how a structured course, like the Design Practice module, would bring me huge benefits on creating effective design and natural user interaction environments.

係呀我之前果幾份marketing工乜q都要撈包括要整html email newsletter呀,website呀之類。

note: 我undergrad係psy,我psy個degree其實third year係可以揀human computer interaction 做其中一個selective module不過我果時無揀。UCL 嘅HCI degree係psy department crossover engineering嘅所以果度基本上無縫接軌

大學:
我覺得Goldsmiths嘅communications同design係幾勁架喎!
Brunel - 我依家跟緊嘅兩個大佬就係brunel出
我覺得d人好似唔係好睇,你interview嘅時候吹得到人地覺得你做到好似就ok
咁當然d recruiter見到我份cv都會美言幾句咩good background... 到最後都會有d工俾人reject

希望幫到你
2020-12-30 09:56:18
原來你係無縫接軌,咁都好

我嘅意思唔係話 Goldsmiths/Burnel 廢,而係呢類型嘅大學我會當係 safety options,所以我未必會讀呢啲大學比較好/出名嘅科。我想知喺呢啲大學讀啲渣啲嘅科,其實搵工 wise 係咪讀咗等於冇讀?

Also 想知以你喺倫敦住咗幾年嘅了解,大學畢業想喺倫敦搵一啲 office 嘅工會唔會好難?個 prospect 係點?我之前喺英國住過幾年所以英文絕對冇問題
2020-12-30 19:49:18
喇,我唔係HR,所以唔係好答到你
我都有friend讀brunel accounting呀(佢係bbc)出到黎都ok
同埋其實如果你係勁嘅u讀都會出到黎搵唔到工架(我d friend讀完imperial,ucl都係幾年搵唔到工/搵唔返相關嘅工)

我9 search搵到呢個post
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2105006
可以爬下student room d 文睇下佢地講咩嘅

喺倫敦搵office工:
我只係可以講到covid前係點啦
基本上你大包圍式咩都報,實會有d回音嘅
當然tailor返份cv for你報嘅唔同工種啦
其實我覺得英國寫cv都係吹
Let's say 你想又報marketing嘅工又報admin嘅工又報project management嘅工
咁你咪寫三份唔同嘅cv target呢三個唔同工種囉
係你之前做過嘅嘢入面r返d相關嘅經驗寫入去吹下囉

不過如果黎到呢邊第一份工唔係office工都ok呀,咪做住先囉
2021-01-03 00:29:10
唔好意思呢排有少少忙遲咗應你 再次多謝師兄咁用心咁答我 聽完你咁講我自己都諗清楚自己想讀乜嘢啦 黎緊我應該都會試吓報你母校修讀hci 當然會報埋其他心儀嘅大學 多謝你 希望下年我哋可以喺倫敦見啦
2021-01-06 10:28:59
2021-01-18 22:37:02
加油呀,希望一切順利😁
未讀書之間咪自己多d睇下design blog自己試下搵d design brief黎練習下囉~
睇下the design of everyday things 呀,幾容易入口:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/840.The_Design_of_Everyday_Things
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