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新痕結衣 2017-04-11 16:23:29
From reddit:

First of all, it's airline spin to call this an overbooking. The statutory provision granting them the ability to deny boarding is about "OVERSALES", specifically defines as booking more reserved confirmed seats than there are available. This is not what happened. They did not overbook the flight; they had a fully booked flight, and not only did everyone already have a reserved confirmed seat, they were all sitting in them. The law allowing them to denying boarding in the event of an oversale does not apply.

Even if it did apply, the law is unambiguously clear that airlines have to give preference to everyone with reserved confirmed seats when choosing to involuntarily deny boarding. They have to always choose the solution that will affect the least amount of reserved confirmed seats. This rule is straightforward, and United makes very clear in their own contract of carriage that employees of their own or of other carriers may be denied boarding without compensation because they do not have reserved confirmed seats. On its face, it's clear that what they did was illegal-- they gave preference to their employees over people who had reserved confirmed seats, in violation of 14 CFR 250.2a.

Furthermore, even if you try and twist this into a legal application of 250.2a and say that United had the right to deny him boarding in the event of an overbooking; they did NOT have the right to kick him off the plane. Their contract of carriage highlights there is a complete difference in rights after you've boarded and sat on the plane, and Rule 21 goes over the specific scenarios where you could get kicked off. NONE of them apply here. He did absolutely nothing wrong and shouldn't have been targeted. He's going to leave with a hefty settlement after this fiasco.

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唔講咁多雲加好波 2017-04-11 16:25:08
係咪開始爆緊個事主d黑材料?

首先黑你老母材料
其次你估美國佬會好似港豬個種懶中立blame the victim咩
單野已經係TWITTER發酵到不可收拾 加埋有片有証人
點spin都冇用
黑夜怪人 2017-04-11 16:33:49
純粹好奇
如果各位係在場乘客
會唔會出手阻止?

老老實實,會開聲屌
但有差佬係度真係唔夠膽郁手
美國差佬你唔知佢幾時發癲

啲差佬高幾個頭幫佢打飛機就有份

話人唔郁手嘅都on9
美國黑警唔係人咁品 你估香港班鵪鶉呀?
仲要係機場黑警 十幾廿碌都有得你痞


出手阻止
Chicago PD呀
你估香港猶太人咩
全美最暴力城市之一既 Chicago
而連登仔要制服Chicago 黑警

最暴力唔係Detroit咩

仲有人住咩

一個禁槍城市 一個左膠城市
夜媽媽包住個頭 2017-04-11 16:34:05
Here's the salient points

>But when there aren't enough volunteers, airlines can involuntarily "bump" confirmed passengers off the flight.

>If you are bumped in this manner, Department of Transportation rules require that you be compensated, and the compensation is generous. Indeed, in 2011 the agency doubled the eligible compensation that involuntarily bumped passengers are entitled to receive. If the airline is able to get you to your domestic destination within two hours of the original arrival time, you are entitled to a cash refund of twice the cost of the one-way ticket to a maximum of $650.

>If the involuntary bump lands you in your destination more than two hours late, you are due an amount equivalent to four times the cost of your ticket to a maximum of $1,300. The rule is the same for international flights, except that the DOT defines "short" international delays (which net up to $650) as those that get you to your destination within four hours of the original arrival time. Those that get you to an international destination more than four hours late entitle you to $1,300.

>**It's worth noting that most airlines will try to pay this fee in travel vouchers, but you can demand a check. The DOT regulation requires the airline to give you cash compensation if that's what you prefer**, Hobica said.

From Reddit

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公道自在人心 2017-04-11 16:35:11
係咪開始爆緊個事主d黑材料?

首先黑你老母材料
其次你估美國佬會好似港豬個種懶中立blame the victim
單野已經係TWITTER發酵到不可收拾 加埋有片有証人
點spin都冇用

駁唔到
btw 呢單野航空公司笑撚死人
魚翅航空無女 2017-04-11 16:35:28
Here's the salient points

>But when there aren't enough volunteers, airlines can involuntarily "bump" confirmed passengers off the flight.

>If you are bumped in this manner, Department of Transportation rules require that you be compensated, and the compensation is generous. Indeed, in 2011 the agency doubled the eligible compensation that involuntarily bumped passengers are entitled to receive. If the airline is able to get you to your domestic destination within two hours of the original arrival time, you are entitled to a cash refund of twice the cost of the one-way ticket to a maximum of $650.

>If the involuntary bump lands you in your destination more than two hours late, you are due an amount equivalent to four times the cost of your ticket to a maximum of $1,300. The rule is the same for international flights, except that the DOT defines "short" international delays (which net up to $650) as those that get you to your destination within four hours of the original arrival time. Those that get you to an international destination more than four hours late entitle you to $1,300.

>**It's worth noting that most airlines will try to pay this fee in travel vouchers, but you can demand a check. The DOT regulation requires the airline to give you cash compensation if that's what you prefer**, Hobica said.

From Reddit

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老kai子° 2017-04-11 16:36:50






張如蕭 2017-04-11 16:38:26
有無咩渠道可以表達我對呢件事ge不滿?
實在太過份
垃圾鄉下仔 2017-04-11 16:39:04
From reddit:

First of all, it's airline spin to call this an overbooking. The statutory provision granting them the ability to deny boarding is about "OVERSALES", specifically defines as booking more reserved confirmed seats than there are available. This is not what happened. They did not overbook the flight; they had a fully booked flight, and not only did everyone already have a reserved confirmed seat, they were all sitting in them. The law allowing them to denying boarding in the event of an oversale does not apply.

Even if it did apply, the law is unambiguously clear that airlines have to give preference to everyone with reserved confirmed seats when choosing to involuntarily deny boarding. They have to always choose the solution that will affect the least amount of reserved confirmed seats. This rule is straightforward, and United makes very clear in their own contract of carriage that employees of their own or of other carriers may be denied boarding without compensation because they do not have reserved confirmed seats. On its face, it's clear that what they did was illegal-- they gave preference to their employees over people who had reserved confirmed seats, in violation of 14 CFR 250.2a.

Furthermore, even if you try and twist this into a legal application of 250.2a and say that United had the right to deny him boarding in the event of an overbooking; they did NOT have the right to kick him off the plane. Their contract of carriage highlights there is a complete difference in rights after you've boarded and sat on the plane, and Rule 21 goes over the specific scenarios where you could get kicked off. NONE of them apply here. He did absolutely nothing wrong and shouldn't have been targeted. He's going to leave with a hefty settlement after this fiasco.

所以問題不嬲都唔係overbooking,個醫生明明有哂boarding pass有reserved seat仲一上埋機坐好都俾人趕落機,只係為左個4個職員需要本身就係犯法
固執的豬肉仔 2017-04-11 16:40:48
個醫生好慘 比晒錢 比人打到留晒血 都要比人拖走 真係好過份
superDraco 2017-04-11 16:42:20
有無咩渠道可以表達我對呢件事ge不滿?
實在太過份

係美國唔簡UA 已經係表達咗不滿





不過你可以一齊係Twitter 圍屌佢
寺𥚃強姦 2017-04-11 16:43:32
以前係fb同到個朋友話永遠唔會搭UA,
而家知點解啦


ua仲經過唔見行李
寺𥚃強姦 2017-04-11 16:43:57
以前係fb同到個朋友話永遠唔會搭UA,
而家知點解啦


ua仲經唔見行李
juanmata10 2017-04-11 16:44:54
Here's the salient points

>But when there aren't enough volunteers, airlines can involuntarily "bump" confirmed passengers off the flight.

>If you are bumped in this manner, Department of Transportation rules require that you be compensated, and the compensation is generous. Indeed, in 2011 the agency doubled the eligible compensation that involuntarily bumped passengers are entitled to receive. If the airline is able to get you to your domestic destination within two hours of the original arrival time, you are entitled to a cash refund of twice the cost of the one-way ticket to a maximum of $650.

>If the involuntary bump lands you in your destination more than two hours late, you are due an amount equivalent to four times the cost of your ticket to a maximum of $1,300. The rule is the same for international flights, except that the DOT defines "short" international delays (which net up to $650) as those that get you to your destination within four hours of the original arrival time. Those that get you to an international destination more than four hours late entitle you to $1,300.

>**It's worth noting that most airlines will try to pay this fee in travel vouchers, but you can demand a check. The DOT regulation requires the airline to give you cash compensation if that's what you prefer**, Hobica said.

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Filibuster_HK 2017-04-11 16:48:53
From reddit:

First of all, it's airline spin to call this an overbooking. The statutory provision granting them the ability to deny boarding is about "OVERSALES", specifically defines as booking more reserved confirmed seats than there are available. This is not what happened. They did not overbook the flight; they had a fully booked flight, and not only did everyone already have a reserved confirmed seat, they were all sitting in them. The law allowing them to denying boarding in the event of an oversale does not apply.

Even if it did apply, the law is unambiguously clear that airlines have to give preference to everyone with reserved confirmed seats when choosing to involuntarily deny boarding. They have to always choose the solution that will affect the least amount of reserved confirmed seats. This rule is straightforward, and United makes very clear in their own contract of carriage that employees of their own or of other carriers may be denied boarding without compensation because they do not have reserved confirmed seats. On its face, it's clear that what they did was illegal-- they gave preference to their employees over people who had reserved confirmed seats, in violation of 14 CFR 250.2a.

Furthermore, even if you try and twist this into a legal application of 250.2a and say that United had the right to deny him boarding in the event of an overbooking; they did NOT have the right to kick him off the plane. Their contract of carriage highlights there is a complete difference in rights after you've boarded and sat on the plane, and Rule 21 goes over the specific scenarios where you could get kicked off. NONE of them apply here. He did absolutely nothing wrong and shouldn't have been targeted. He's going to leave with a hefty settlement after this fiasco.

所以問題不嬲都唔係overbooking,個醫生明明有哂boarding pass有reserved seat仲一上埋機坐好都俾人趕落機,只係為左個4個職員需要本身就係犯法


無錯,但係UA用overbooking黎spin,跟住好多傳媒同人都一齊用佢條line
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好似有人叫價1600USD,但係比人恥笑,根本成件事就係衰ON9

因小失大
圍她G奶 2017-04-11 16:59:22
Here's the salient points

>But when there aren't enough volunteers, airlines can involuntarily "bump" confirmed passengers off the flight.

>If you are bumped in this manner, Department of Transportation rules require that you be compensated, and the compensation is generous. Indeed, in 2011 the agency doubled the eligible compensation that involuntarily bumped passengers are entitled to receive. If the airline is able to get you to your domestic destination within two hours of the original arrival time, you are entitled to a cash refund of twice the cost of the one-way ticket to a maximum of $650.

>If the involuntary bump lands you in your destination more than two hours late, you are due an amount equivalent to four times the cost of your ticket to a maximum of $1,300. The rule is the same for international flights, except that the DOT defines "short" international delays (which net up to $650) as those that get you to your destination within four hours of the original arrival time. Those that get you to an international destination more than four hours late entitle you to $1,300.

>**It's worth noting that most airlines will try to pay this fee in travel vouchers, but you can demand a check. The DOT regulation requires the airline to give you cash compensation if that's what you prefer**, Hobica said.

From Reddit

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唔係話賠唔足
你超賣ok
以前係同政府傾過話
飛機唔環保 成日得9成人上機曬油
所以賣多d 盡量full load
但同時都講左要負責安置d客嫁

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