密碼學/加密貨幣原理

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2017-07-25 23:32:01
巴打睇緊邊本書? 我都想買返本睇下

bitcoin and cryptocurrency technology
mastering bitcoin

Thanks

如果想學埋數學,就唔係睇cryptocurrency既書啦
要睇Forouzan既Cryptography and Network Security

你介紹多啲數既書比佢, 佢數學佬黎
搭單問下有冇咩white paper 會講多啲blockchain applications

btw支持巴打繼續講

google search "initial coin offering white paper"
多到睇唔曬
2017-07-25 23:33:46
我對blockchain 係non fintech 既usage有興趣多啲

都可以講下, 不過有排都未到呢D topics
2017-07-25 23:33:57
2017-07-25 23:35:28
巴打睇緊邊本書? 我都想買返本睇下

bitcoin and cryptocurrency technology
mastering bitcoin

Thanks

如果想學埋數學,就唔係睇cryptocurrency既書啦
要睇Forouzan既Cryptography and Network Security

你介紹多啲數既書比佢, 佢數學佬黎
搭單問下有冇咩white paper 會講多啲blockchain applications

btw支持巴打繼續講

google search "initial coin offering white paper"
多到睇唔曬

thanks
2017-07-25 23:37:42
巴打好嘢,深入淺出!明到九成。自己睇書肯定睇唔入腦但係睇你post就一睇即明 btw 劉明
2017-07-25 23:38:38
留名
2017-07-25 23:47:24
樓主好波
2017-07-25 23:47:58
巴打點睇rainbowtable?
2017-07-25 23:50:25
數學合格表示仲明白到發生咩事
又學到新野
2017-07-25 23:53:22
讀過networking學過RSA public/private key,hash function,DES encryption lm
2017-07-25 23:54:06
我聽講quantum computer已經可以crack rsa,咁SHA呢?
2017-07-25 23:55:51
巴打睇緊邊本書? 我都想買返本睇下

bitcoin and cryptocurrency technology
mastering bitcoin

買晒兩本,睇完都係知皮毛....
因為crypto入面既機制同數學原理需要了解更多先得

好似sin function做例子,起碼我知佢係wave function 黎,但係sha256實則係咩function黎?
2017-07-25 23:56:25
我以門外漢既角度都理解到皮毛

樓主解說能力好高
2017-07-25 23:57:16
我聽講quantum computer已經可以crack rsa,咁SHA呢?

encryption 同 hash 都唔係同一樣野
2017-07-26 00:01:11
collision resistance:好難好難好難搵到x1, x2 such that SHA256(x1) = SHA256(x2)

呢度可唔可以再解釋下


其實依個係樓主上面第一點但係用左數學形式表達:「2. 防撞(collision resistance)
就算好似連登仔咁高智商,都搵唔到兩個唔同input (x1, x2),經過hash function計算後得出同一個output (你當SHA256 係一個mathematical function 要入一個input。如果有個input x 既話*, 入落去function SHA256 就會出 SHA256(x), 換句話說依句係講緊SHA256(x1) = SHA256(x2))
留意我係話「連登仔都搵唔到」,唔係話呢D inputs唔存在。
事實上呢D inputs一定存在。」

*例子:你係個function f(x) = x^2

你入x = -4 同x = 4 既話,f(4)=16 and f(-4)=16,so f(4) = f(-4)

依個function f 例子唔係「collision resistance」

第二點既意思係你冇可能好容易咁搵到兩個inputs 出同一樣既output

點解唔想有同一個output? 你當input 係一個個人密碼要用係 online bank account, 但係基於安全理由server 唔會儲住個password (in case of secuity breach, data storing in bank server got hacked by hackers), 反而會儲住hash 左既password, i.e. HASHFUNCTION(password)

每次你login 你部手機會計一次HASHFUNCTION(password), 之後upload 依個output 再拎依個output 睇下match 唔match 到server store 住既hashed password, 岩就俾你login

如果可以好易咁俾你搵到第二個password 會出同一個output 既話,hacker 就可以唔洗要你個password 就入到你account

sorry for 1999
2017-07-26 00:01:20
正皮留名學嘢

學術台需要多啲巴打你呢啲認真post
2017-07-26 00:05:01
之前試過爬wiki睇唔明
俾你講一講就明嗮
2017-07-26 00:06:28
巴打睇緊邊本書? 我都想買返本睇下

bitcoin and cryptocurrency technology
mastering bitcoin

Thanks

如果想學埋數學,就唔係睇cryptocurrency既書啦
要睇Forouzan既Cryptography and Network Security

你介紹多啲數既書比佢, 佢數學佬黎
搭單問下有冇咩white paper 會講多啲blockchain applications

btw支持巴打繼續講

google search "initial coin offering white paper"
多到睇唔曬


https://youtu.be/l9jOJk30eQs

依條片可能解答到好皮毛既bitcoin mechanism
2017-07-26 00:06:36
皮已正
btw有無睇過呢兩段片?
同樣正到出汁

Ever wonder how Bitcoin (and other cryptocurrencies) actually work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBC-nXj3Ng4

How secure is 256 bit security?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JGmA5_unY
2017-07-26 00:06:38
支持巴打
2017-07-26 00:12:16
我聽講quantum computer已經可以crack rsa,咁SHA呢?

encryption 同 hash 都唔係同一樣野


兩個的確唔係同一個concept

rsa based on factorisation problem, while SHA face the Challenge of finding its inverse function

However, if quantum computer has enough computational power then brute forcing might solve the problem.
Having said that, one can always find another hash function which require N quantum computer hours making using brute force with Quran computers difficult, essentially leveraging the non-linear property of solving a given problem (P vs NP problems)
2017-07-26 00:13:34
皮已正
btw有無睇過呢兩段片?
同樣正到出汁

Ever wonder how Bitcoin (and other cryptocurrencies) actually work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBC-nXj3Ng4

How secure is 256 bit security?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JGmA5_unY


睇過第一條 同樣地深入淺出

不過樓主解釋多啲,幫助多好多
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