香港人係咁用 Pepe 公仔,搞到 NY Times 要澄清我哋唔係極右主義

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2019-08-19 22:36:31
認真問,究竟我哋應唔應該同 Pepe 割蓆

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/world/asia/pepe-frog-hong-kong-protests.amp.html

Hong Kong Protesters Love Pepe the Frog. No, They’re Not Alt-Right.

To much of the world, the cartoon frog is a hate symbol. To Hong Kong protesters, he’s something entirely different: one of them.

By Daniel Victor
Aug. 19, 2019

Ask the Anti-Defamation League, and they will tell you Pepe the Frog is a hate symbol, a cheerleader of racism and anti-Semitism, a friend of alt-right extremists. The sad, green frog is widely viewed as toxic across the world, a signal of a sinister and dangerous worldview.

So it can be a bit jarring to see Pepe in his new role: a pro-democracy freedom fighter in the Hong Kong protests, siding with the people in their struggle against an authoritarian state. The protesters here hold signs with his image, use stickers of him in messaging apps and discussion forums, and even spray paint his face on walls.

Does that mean that Hong Kong protesters are alt-right, or that they support the racism he represents?

The question confuses many protesters, many of whom had no idea about the symbol’s racist connotations elsewhere in the world. They just like him.

“It has nothing to do with the far-right ideology in the state,” one person wrote on LIHKG, an anonymous forum that has been the center of discussion for protesters. “It just looks funny and captures the hearts of so many youngsters. It is a symbol of youth participation in this movement.”

Mari Law, a 33-year-old protester, knows how Pepe is perceived elsewhere, but said it did not matter because Pepe did not carry the same toxic reputation in Hong Kong. Most of the protesters don’t know about the alt-right association, he said.

“To me, Pepe is just a Hello Kitty-like character,” he said.

Few Hong Kongers have shown awareness online about Pepe’s sinister side. There has been little discussion about what symbolism he carries, and in the few occasions it has been pointed out, it has mostly been met with a shrug.

To Hong Kongers, he is just one of them. A sticker pack for messaging apps like Telegram and WhatsApp depict Pepe wearing the protesters’ signature yellow helmet, surrounded by tear gas or holding antigovernment signs. He has also been transformed into a first aid worker and a journalist holding an iPhone.

Emily Yueng, 20, said she had no idea about Pepe’s checkered past. After she learned, she wondered if maybe she and other protesters ought to stop handing out posters with his image at the airport.

“But still, different countries have very different cultures,” she said. “Symbols and colors that mean something in one culture can mean something completely different in another culture, so I think if Americans are really offended by this, we should explain to them what it means to us.”

Pepe was not always seen as a racist symbol. He was created more than a decade ago by Matt Furie, who killed off the character in 2017 after it was adopted by the alt-right.

Members of the alt-right on forums like 4chan and certain corners of Reddit had appropriated his image, much to Mr. Furie’s dismay. He said the frog, perpetually stoned, was meant to be positive, and denounced any link to racist or fringe groups.

“It’s completely insane that Pepe has been labeled a symbol of hate, and that racists and anti-Semites are using a once peaceful frog-dude from my comic book as an icon of hate,” he said in 2016, when the Anti-Defamation League added Pepe to its list of hate symbols.

He added in a 2016 essay for Time magazine: “I understand that it’s out of my control, but in the end, Pepe is whatever you say he is, and I, the creator, say that Pepe is love.”

In Hong Kong, Pepe was never transformed from the chill frog-dude Mr. Furie intended him to be. Mr. Law said he thought Pepe would protest alongside Hong Kongers: Pepe is sad just like them.

“I think we can redefine Pepe in this movement,” he said.
2019-08-19 22:36:54
(整合) 818之後仲有行動㗎我地!
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普教中!!!救下香港嘅下一代!!!!
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2019-08-19 22:38:54
阻阻大家 入黎擺低死線唔該
既然無死線做唔到野就擺低死線既日期出黎


大家個個話要死線 死線呢?
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2019-08-19 22:39:39
2019-08-19 22:39:44
轉用連狗同連豬
2019-08-19 22:41:01
光復香港 時代革命
2019-08-19 22:42:40
push
2019-08-19 22:43:03
2019-08-19 22:44:31
pepe係卡通只係一個創作姐
唔通畫個撒雅人
香港就變左好勇鬥狠咩
2019-08-19 22:47:34
其實我見到下面啲留言都幾正面
大家都明其實 Pepe 本身都唔係咩邪惡生物嚟
不過大家覺得我哋駛唔駛特登同佢割蓆
去避免不必要嘅誤會呢?

2019-08-19 22:47:35
建議轉用腦魔
2019-08-19 22:50:08
輸出meme
2019-08-19 22:52:31
邪惡生物

呢個terms笑死
2019-08-19 22:53:05
Gichi

可唔可以順便宣傳埋連豬
2019-08-19 22:54:59
2019-08-19 22:55:09
核爆都唔割
2019-08-19 22:55:57
屌 用腦魔 腦魔絕對代表到我地
2019-08-19 22:57:02
斷斷續續睇左4chan個/v/同/a/ 8年倒
pepe本來都唔係咩負面野後來/pol/係選trump個排開始狂用
之後就變左美國左膠公敵 (者係得罪緊成個民主黨+美國一半既選民)

好似係
2019-08-19 22:57:15
隻野其實有咩意思
2019-08-19 22:58:24
弊在 Pepe 各種極右包含 Supremacist 等等嘅種族主義,可能令西方國家反感呢。

我明我哋有時都會話芝麻仁冇蘑菇,不過而家我哋要拉攏歐洲同美國民主黨呢啲大愛左膠,公關就好重要啦。
2019-08-19 22:59:01
用腦魔連豬連狗幾好
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