【推到完場】2020美國總統選舉 Bernie Sanders 討論區/粉絲帖/新聞張貼站 (1)

暴走的赫胥黎

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勇武文藝青年 2019-02-21 09:15:27
你不如學過google啦
第五個https://www.google.com.hk/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/families-of-americans-killed-by-illegal-immigrants-take-odds-with-schumer-and-pelosis-words-that-trump-is-manufacturing-a-crisis-to-get-border-wall.amp
CNN嗰啲就話唔報啫

乜撚嘢trans gender?
人一出世就得男同女 只係有人自認其他性別同唔同性取 不如你問醫生畫唔畫到30幾個唔同「性別」嘅解剖圖 睇吓有乜分別


暴力唔一定要郁手的 Covington嗰啲左翼突然喺人耳邊打鼓 同法西斯士兵鵝步步操一樣 係暴力恐嚇

White Supremacists入Trump數?對唔住Trump自己都屌佢哋㗎喎 仲有ANTIFA打傷人係遠超Nazi/KKK, 片自己Youtube啦

我就係支持early term abortion的 支持一個candidate唔代表100%同意佢㗎
憤怒的艾迪 2019-02-21 14:34:19
咁班侵fans同侵一樣係非友即敵既思想
連自己美國人都分化左兩邊,唔支持我個套既就係敵人
暴走的赫胥黎 2019-02-21 14:58:16
// 仲有ANTIFA打傷人係遠超Nazi/KKK//

屌見到呢句真係笑咗
你自己望下
無論發生次數定係整死人嘅次數,2010-2016年間
右翼暴力都係遠超左翼
https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_IdeologicalMotivationsOfTerrorismInUS_Nov2017.pdf
p.5
// In comparison to the 2000s, there was a sharp decline in the proportion of terrorist attacks carried out by left-wing, environmentalist extremists during the first seven years of the 2010s (from 64% to 12%). At the same time, there was a sharp increase in the proportion of attacks carried out by right-wing extremists (from 6% to 35%) and religious extremists (from 9% to 53%) in the United States.//


https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-report-white-supremacist-murders-more-than-doubled-in-2017
// The most recent ADL data shows that over the last decade a total of 71 percent of all fatalities have been linked to domestic right-wing extremists, while 26 percent of the killings were committed by Islamic extremists. The other 3 percent of deaths were carried out by extremists not falling into either category.//
勇武文藝青年 2019-02-21 15:02:31
「Terrorist attack」

而家講緊一般街頭紅衞兵式暴力喎
暴走的赫胥黎 2019-02-21 15:14:11
睇埋德國憲法保護局嘅2017報告
https://www.verfassungsschutz.de/embed/annual-report-2017-summary.pdf
德國 嘅左右翼暴力事件
右翼係左翼3倍有多
而且左翼嘅所謂暴力事件,好多都係G20峰會時候示威同警察衝突,結果計埋入去

// In the category of right-wing politically motivated crime, 19,467 (2016:
22,471) offences were recorded as having an extremist background. The number of violent crimes with a right-wing extremist background dropped by 34.1 per cent to 1,054 (2016: 1,600). The number of violent xenophobic crimes fell to 774 (2016: 1,190). Acts of violence against actual or supposed left-wing extremists dropped by more than half(2017: 98; 2016: 250). The number of attempted homicides fell from 18 in 2016 to four in the reporting period.
【。。。】
In the category of left-wing politically motivated crime, 6,393 (2016:
5,230) offences were recorded as having an extremist background, of
which 1,648 were violent crimes(2016: 1,201).The number of violent leftwing extremist crimes against the police and security authorities rose by more than 65 per cent (2017: 1,135; 2016: 687) – 832 of them were committed in Hamburg alone.

【Following a drop in violent left-wing extremist crimes in 2016,
their number rose bymore than a third in 2017.Thisincrease was
essentially due to incidents during the G20 Summit in Hamburg.】

By contrast, acts of violence against actual or supposed right-wing extremists dropped by more than half (2017: 264; 2016: 542). Following a sharp rise in 2016, the number of violent crimes committed in the context of campaigns against restructuring fell to the same level as in 2015 (2017: 49; 2016: 188; 2015: 54). Three attempted homicides motivated by left-wing extremism (2016: 6) were recorded in 2017.
暴走的赫胥黎 2019-02-21 15:16:52
第一頁第二段已經回應咗你嘅問題
包咗你講嘅嘢啦
https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_IdeologicalMotivationsOfTerrorismInUS_Nov2017.pdf
// Terrorism is a narrowly defined type of violence, even within the broader spectrum of ideologically motivated violence. The GTD defines terrorism as the threatened or actual use of illegal force and violence by a non-state actor to attain a political, economic, religious, or social goal through fear, coercion, or intimidation.//
勇武文藝青年 2019-02-21 15:30:52
左膠講Trump可以例用撚咗德國做例
勇武文藝青年 2019-02-21 15:51:32
差佬拉都唔撚拉 統計?

Youtube片就大把 Berkeley個助教用單車鎖打爆人頭 一開始差佬咪又係放走
全民做猩 2019-02-21 15:57:55
Bernie Sanders 同Trump辯論應該幾精彩
憤怒的艾迪 2019-02-21 17:03:40
仲有ANTIFA打傷人係遠超Nazi/KKK//

人地咪用最少兩個國家既數據支持佢既論點囉
你有數據反駁既咪攞出尼講

但係唔好同我話非官方計一定係左膠暴力D
冇實質數據支持唔會信得過
憤怒的艾迪 2019-02-21 17:05:04
16個次侵侵講過話肯同佢辯論
最後縮沙咋嘛
暴走的赫胥黎 2019-02-21 17:11:51
舉完美國再舉德國例子 = 扯去德國
果然天底下嘅右翼分子都係一樣閱讀理解拎U
暴走的赫胥黎 2019-02-21 17:15:57
你講乜撚嘢啊
平時班右撚唔係最撚仲意講fact and logic㗎咩
而家你呢種情況係咪叫做
GET OWNED AND DESTROYED BY FACT AND STATISTIC
憤怒的艾迪 2019-02-21 17:18:55
同埋點解唔揀trump?
佢成個cabinet都係鬼,唔係corporate shill就係外國政府"lobbyist"(即係agent啦)
自己查下邊個係 DeVos, Scott Pruitt etc
自己appointee既turnover rates同indictment eates係冠絕前人
Drain the swamp

佢個16 campaign成班高層都同俄羅斯/沙地等有聯繫
一係佢就係蠢到比人利用都唔知
一係就同外國勢力有關係
真係要搵個唔係American first 既人做總統?
憤怒的艾迪 2019-02-21 17:22:40
都係講返Sanders既消息

佢宣布競選第一日總共籌到5.9million
其中600k係每月捐獻
平均每人大約捐左26.6 USD

對比起其他DNC參選者
Kamala 係1.5M
Warren好似係300k
暴走的赫胥黎 2019-02-21 17:30:23
https://www.apnews.com/2e3000a819b243068007db3e0d61db82
Analysis: Sanders may not need 2016 magic to be 2020 force

FILE - In this Oct. 30, 2018 file photo, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., speaks at a campaign rally in Bethesda, Md. Can Sanders recapture the magic that fueled his first presidential campaign? To win the nomination, he may not need to. As Sanders, a 77-year-old self-described democratic socialist, formally launches his 2020 campaign, the lessons of President Donald Trump’s victory in the GOP’s packed 2016 contest loom large. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky, File)

NEW YORK (AP) — Can Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders recapture the magic that fueled his first presidential campaign?

To win the nomination, he may not need to.

As Sanders, a 77-year-old self-described democratic socialist, formally launches his 2020 campaign, the lessons of President Donald Trump’s victory in the GOP’s packed 2016 contest loom large.

With better-established Republican contenders dividing the GOP primary vote that year, Trump began racking up primary victories with 30 to 40 percent of each state’s vote. He captured his party’s nomination even as six or seven of every 10 primary voters backed another Republican candidate.

Sanders’ team is betting that the bar for victory in the more-crowded 2020 Democratic field could be even lower. That simple math — and an extraordinary small-dollar fundraising operation — suggests that Sanders is poised to maintain his status as a political force in 2020 whether most of his party wants him to or not.

Sanders is showing no desire to change his approach to broaden his appeal, as is sometimes the case with ambitious second-time candidates. Nina Turner, president of Our Revolution, the political arm of Sanders’ expansive network, said the 2020 campaign “is really about him finishing what he started.”



Graphic shows Democratic candidates for president.

In a political world in which windows of opportunity rarely stay open long, it’s possible that Sanders’ moment may have passed.

In 2016, he was the sole option for anti-establishment Democrats who didn’t support Hillary Clinton. Today, Democrats are sorting through a far more diverse field that could ultimately exceed two dozen high-profile contenders. Many of them — and there are exceptions — have adopted Sanders’ far-left policy priorities and anti-establishment rhetoric.

Signs of erosion are easy to find.

While many grassroots activists cheered Sanders’ decision, New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, another self-described democratic socialist and a worker for Sanders’ first presidential campaign, remained silent.

“We’re excited to see so many progressives in the race,” Ocasio-Cortez spokesman Corbin Trent said, declining to address Sanders’ big announcement directly. “We’re not thinking at all about the next election.”

Sanders enters a field that already includes progressive favorites like Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker and California Sen. Kamala Harris. They have adopted much of Sanders’ agenda to provide free universal health care, free college tuition and a $15 minimum wage. Still unknown is whether former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke or former Vice President Joe Biden will join the race, two prospects who could peel away some of Sanders’ base of support beyond the ultra-liberal wing of the party.
暴走的赫胥黎 2019-02-21 17:33:29
At the same time, Sanders has little hope of winning over many establishment-minded former Clinton supporters, still bitter from their perception that he didn’t work hard enough to defeat Trump once Clinton captured the Democratic nomination.

“Amazing how Bernie and his 3,708,294 fewer supporters squandered two years. They quadrupled down on their rigging rant and now there are 10 alternatives,” longtime Clinton adviser Philippe Reines tweeted. “Get ready to Feel the Fizzle.”

But it is Sanders’ consistency that has endeared him to a passionate base of liberal activists across the country who remain deeply loyal to him and his decadeslong fight for income equality and universal health care. Some of his competitors — particularly Warren and Harris — have also developed nationwide followings, but no one starts out with the same kind of fundraising appeal or organized network of like-minded groups such as Our Revolution, Justice Democrats and the Democratic Socialists of America.

“We’re more powerful than ever in the politics. We changed the game,” said 28-year-old Moumita Ahmed, the co-founder of Millennials Want Bernie 2020. “Bernie Sanders is still the only candidate that’s not the status quo.”

Anticipating Sanders’ decision, her organization had already organized chapters in Michigan, California, Nevada, New York, South Carolina and Washington state. She also donated $27 to Sanders on Tuesday, matching the often-touted average donation that fueled his first run.

Overall, Sanders raised more than $4 million from nearly 150,000 individual donors in the first 12 hours after launching his 2020 bid, his campaign said Tuesday.

Previously, the biggest first-day fundraiser in the race had been Harris, who raised $1.5 million in the first 24 hours of her campaign.

Even before Tuesday’s fundraising haul, however, Sanders had more cash in the bank than any of his competitors. He entered the contest with roughly $15 million to devote to his 2020 campaign, a combination of his Senate campaign fund and what’s left over from his 2016 presidential bid.

“Bernie Sanders is the front-runner,” tweeted former Clinton staffer Zac Petkanas. “Let’s see how he likes it.”

Indeed, with a higher profile comes higher scrutiny.

Sanders’ team expects to face more negative attention in his second run — both from rivals who view him as a legitimate threat and the broader political world that takes him seriously enough to devote more time and energy to dig deeper into his policies and personal background.

He will face particularly difficult questions over his campaign’s handling of allegations of sexual harassment and gender inequity during his 2016 campaign. The senator has already apologized and instituted a series of changes designed to prevent similar abuse in the future, but in a Democratic field that currently features more women than men, the issue is not going away anytime soon.

Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean warned Democrats against underestimating Sanders.

“Bernie’s political career is littered with people who don’t take him seriously,” said Dean, who has encouraged Democrats to embrace a younger generation of candidates in 2020.

At the White House, meanwhile, Trump offered a mixed view of Sanders’ 2020 chances when asked during an unrelated event.

“Personally, I think he missed his time,” Trump said, even as he praised Sanders’ trade policies. “I wish Bernie well. It’ll be interesting to see how he does.”

___

EDITOR’S NOTE: Steve Peoples has covered presidential politics for The Associated Press since 2011.
血源詛咒 2019-02-21 17:37:51
我驚佢年紀問題多過政策
暴走的赫胥黎 2019-02-21 17:38:25
Bernie一直自稱democratic socialist
不過佢響參議院入面通常都係同民主黨caucus㗎啦

認真
如果我係美國人的話一定會投Bernie
因為美國嘅醫療制度真係太垃圾
無公司醫保,病咗的話
輕則破財、重則破產
真係唔講得少
Obamacare都係小修小補

香港嘅公立醫療相比美國真係好得多
(當然從香港人嘅角度就偏向睇候選人嘅對華政策啦)
暴走的赫胥黎 2019-02-21 17:40:17
解決方法好簡單
揀個後生啲嘅副總統
FDR都係做做下死咗啦
遠阪凜 2019-02-21 17:42:45
一百個可能得一個有資格
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