科學家接收到來自15億光年外嘅無線電信號

仲有，科學係源自實驗，唔係無視現有嘅基石去ff

突然覺得好恐佈

咁邊界出面係d咩

又或者可唔可能跳出邊界 離開宇宙 又會發生d咩事

//There is absolutely no reason to believe this is the result of intelligent life. Our sci-fi culture, although I love it, has really taken a toll on our understanding of realistic, practical astronomy.

The only headlines that ever make the front page are these sensationalist titles that make every reader think the next sci-movie is about to happen in our lives.

..Which is a shame, because astronomy actually has really cool findings all the time, like this one. Attaching "mysterious notions of intelligent life" to everything shouldn't be a precursor to being interested in it.

Edit:

Reasons this could be intelligent life: ??wild speculation??

Reasons to be skeptical that this is intelligent life:
1) 1.5 Billion light years is an insane distance. That's a chunk of the observable universe. For a civilization to produce the energy output needed for this, they would need to harness the output of hundreds of stars. Furthermore, they would need to direct it at us.

If this doesn't sound convincing enough, and you believe these fictional creatures are capable of anything,

2) If they sent it 1.5 billion years ago, *we did not exist yet*. In fact, we didn't exist for another 1.5 billion years. ..And we wouldn't be able to respond for another 1.5 Billion (with I assume more blinky radio signals? - "Hello der!!")

Not only are they omnipotent, eternal aliens, but they are also omniscient. They might as well be some sort of god.

**TL;DR** - Is it possible that intelligent life is the result for these radio signals? Sure, in the same sense that anything is possible.
Is it the first thing you should be concerned with or think about when reading about this article? No. It's actually a cool astronomical finding by itself.//

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可能係地球d訊號經蟲洞去左15億光年個到射番番黎

懷疑呢班人有冇能力理解Occam‘s Razor

Message:
hold the door
Hol he do
Hodor

話明係邊界即係冇出面, 呢個係logic
好多人就係跌入左呢D logic fault裡面所以有咁多FF.......
正確問題應該問點解"個度"就係邊界?

除非係搵到快過光速既野，推翻成個物理學體系

我想補充少少,
科學本身身提出左一個理論先係要"證實"先, 如果及後你唔能夠"證偽"既話咁個理論理論就係正確, 因為已經解釋曬所以野。我唔覺得當年愛恩斯坦既相對論係"推翻"左牛頓力學, 而係"extend"左牛頓力學。 牛頓力學係相對論係某個尺度(particular conditoin)下既solution。

另外, 如果一樣理論本生唔能夠先"證實", 就冇"證偽"既空間。呢個又係logic, 就好似你要拆穿魔術師既魔術首先你都要"證實"佢表演左個魔術先, 如果佢連魔術都冇表演過咁你需要拆穿乜野? 至於人類自己幻想出黎既野(例如鬼神之說) 本質就係一個FF, 唔係一個"證實", 咁點能叫人去"證偽", 根本就係冇需要亦唔合logic。

但同時相對論係現今地球科技所認知雖然係正確
難保有一日有另一套理論可以推翻一部份甚至全部
科學家都努力去嘗試突破 或者直接尋找緊比光更快既物質或者能量etc

問題係, 限制速度本身唔係在於個樣係咩物質, 係在於呢個宇宙本身個設計。即係呢隻game 設計左最多得10關打, 你點都唔會搵到第11關, 因為根本冇呢樣野, 個設計係咁就係咁, 如果唔係咩叫universal law.

懷疑呢班人有冇能力理解Occam‘s Razor

我想補充少少,
科學本身提出左一個理論先係要"證實"先, 如果及後你唔能夠"證偽"既話咁個理論理論就係正確, 因為已經解釋曬所有野。我唔覺得當年愛恩斯坦既相對論係"推翻"左牛頓力學, 而係"extend"左牛頓力學。 牛頓力學係相對論係某個尺度(particular conditoin)下既solution。

另外, 如果一樣理論本身唔能夠先"證實", 就冇"證偽"既空間。呢個又係logic, 就好似你要拆穿魔術師既魔術首先你都要佢表演左個魔術先, 如果佢連魔術都冇表演過咁你需要拆穿乜野? 至於人類自己幻想出黎既野(例如鬼神之說) 本質就係一個FF, 唔係一個"證實", 咁點可以叫人去"證偽", 根本就係冇需要亦唔合logic。

改錯字*

lorentz transformation?

或者咁講大膽假設FF係應該提倡, 但冇科學根底既人就唔應該去妄釋, 同埋要避免"不能證偽"代表"有可能",而因為"有可能"但只係科學唔夠先進去解釋呢種謬誤。
FF > 證實 > 能否證偽? > 不能 > 能否證偽? > 不能 (無限loop) <-- 咁樣先岩
FF > 證實 > 能否證偽? > 能 > 推翻 FF/修保理論 > 重新證實 > 能否證偽? (無限loop) <-- 咁樣先岩
FF > 能否證偽? > 不能 > 有可能 > 科學未解釋到姐 > 選擇相信/原相信 <-- 咁係謬誤

所有外星人post
都會有人否定晒所有已知定律同知識去假設一啲野
但又唔解釋點解會咁樣假設

係咁 可能可能可能可能可能
根本討論唔到 冇個框係到 點傾

我話可能你老母係外星人 佢Send 電波誤導大家都得啦

讀到咁勁咁聰明都咁on9

班可能撚純ff 真係好智障

如果有睇星際啟示錄就明白，所謂時間只係人類唸出黎規範自己既理論同觀點，宇宙某些星球佢既一日，分分鐘係地球既100年，或者調番轉，佢地既100年等如地球既一日時間

笑到肚痛

Hello,alien
幾時接我返屋企

做乜鳩呀你 你先最癲

咩呀無線電傳輸速度=光速？
光速就15億年傳到過黎
無線電應該要再早d傳先傳到光行15億年既距離呀

量子纏繞係就係快過光速n倍，但唔可以拎黎傳遞訊息，應該話傳遞訊息既上限速度已經係光速，除非呢段無線電波真係入左蟲洞啦，如果唔係呢人類堅係睇緊15億年前send過黎既野