外國媒體報導越嚟越多 13900K 用家陸續出現遊戲崩潰情形，Intel 未有回應！

power_off · 2024-02-22T22:46:36+08:00

點睇 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/is-your-intel-core-i9-13900k-crashing-in-games-your-motherboard-bios-settings-may-be-to-blame-other-high-end-intel-cpus-also-affected" data-sr-url="https://r.lihkg.com/link?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomshardware.com%2Fpc-components%2Fcpus%2Fis-your-intel-core-i9-13900k-crashing-in-games-your-motherboard-bios-settings-may-be-to-blame-other-high-end-intel-cpus-also-affected&d=tODUFOaExH724wU3jFOHdIV2cEnJYiPTex9Di97eiF8%3D&h=c8120612" target="_blank">https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/is-your-intel-core-i9-13900k-crashing-in-games-your-motherboard-bios-settings-may-be-to-blame-other-high-end-intel-cpus-also-affected Increasing numbers of users of the Core i9-13900K and Core i7-13700K have reported crashes in some of the latest games, usually accompanied by an out of video memory error. It's not just random end-users either: Our GPU reviewer has personally dealt with this, as has Hassan Mujtaba from WCCFTech. There's a new Steam forum thread on the subject as well. Considering Intel's processors are some of the best CPUs for gaming, it's a particularly painful problem when things go amiss. Our GPU reviewer dealt with the matter and finally tracked down the root cause to his motherboard's default power and current limit settings. Both were set to effectively "unlimited" — 4096W and 4096A — after loading the default optimized BIOS settings. That was with a Core i9-13900K, and while most reports concern the 13900K and 13700K thus far, the Core i9-14900K and Core i7-14700K may also be affected given they're basically the same silicon. Complaints about stability issues on the 13900K and 13700K aren't exactly widespread, but have become particularly concentrated on a handful of games, specifically for those with shader compilation. It's not even just a rumor going around on forums as at least two developers and Nvidia itself have explicitly identified that the "out of video memory error," which you would normally think is a GPU issue, is actually related to 13th Gen CPUs. Gearbox and Fatshark, which develop Remnant 2 and Vermintide 2 respectively, have both noted these very issues and have narrowed them down to the 13900K, and also the 13700K according to Fatshark. Gearbox even says, "If you experience this problem, you will likely also see it in other DX12 games," which is to say that it's not an issue specific to Remnant 2. The issue isn't even that new, as Gearbox's warnings were made back in August. Our own Jarred Walton has seen the problem in quite a few games: Alan Wake 2, Hogwarts Legacy, Horizon Zero Dawn, Immortals of Aveum, Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, and The Last of Us, Part 1 to name specific examples. Hogwarts, Horizon, and The Last of Us are all particularly painful examples in his case, and at 'stock' settings would crash during the shader compilation process probably over 90% of the time. So what's going on? For its part, Nvidia told a user that, "Despite the game saying the issue is with your VRAM... Unreal Engine 5 games seem to have some issues with this particular model (and possibly other 13th-generation Intel CPUs)." Nvidia and the two developers have all recommended that users who experience these crashes on the 13900K and other CPUs downclock their chips by up to 200MHz. The obvious downside of this is that it reduces performance, which isn't exactly ideal. But we and others have found some other solutions that seem to work just as well.

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巴絲斯巴拿 2024-02-24 17:37:10

用 apple 就無事

無雀仔嘅腳仔 2024-02-24 17:51:22

好複雜

做工程師咁
希望自己部機未有事

•加藤恵• 2024-02-24 17:55:30

又話用Intel唔洗做工程師嘅

isekaiASU 2024-02-24 17:59:11

點解出左咁耐先個個出事？
強制更新？

Kaizoku 2024-02-24 18:51:11

14k出左3個月?

傷心難過又如何 2024-02-24 19:14:24

13500 世一

禍害遺千年 2024-02-24 19:46:51

跟原廠PL值set，一體水都慳番

power_off 2024-02-24 20:33:21

set 住 125/253 先，佢嗰個可能係粒 U 就死先咁做

power_off 2024-02-24 20:37:31

高頻高電壓高電流呢啲係要用一排先有事

二階堂彩 2024-02-24 20:40:41

但上面你貼果啲reddit又指ICC 用307, PL1 PL2一齊用253既
邊個先可信

power_off 2024-02-24 20:45:10

全部都可信，睇你想點玩

PL ALL 125 = 粒 U 死下死下至咁 SET
PL long 125, short 253 = 粒 U 仲安全但想長時間穩定使用就咁 SET
PL ALL 253 = 想用盡多啲粒 U 又唔想出事就咁 SET
ICC 307 = 限制電流，打機會降頻睇落勁安全但我就不了

二階堂彩 2024-02-24 20:52:48

照你咁講PL1 PL2用253, ICC舊用511.75都算安全?

power_off 2024-02-24 20:55:56

點睇

power_off 2024-02-24 21:01:48

我琴晚試咗 SET ICC，好多場景都降頻，本身打機固定 5.7 變咗降到 5.2 ~ 5.7 浮動不斷跳嚟跳去，好影響我觀感，所以就算 SET 低啲會安全啲我都唔會理

你自己可以試下點樣較低啲 ICC 又唔影響本身個 core speed，或者影響無咁大

Kaizoku 2024-02-24 21:12:45

i粉咪同小粉紅一樣
你講中國佢就話美國都有
pbo個原理是咩都未知
90度就唔會比電上，可以自已set
再唔是買3D冇得set

power_off 2024-02-24 21:17:23

終於見到你肯正常少少咁討論下
睇嚟要貼多啲呢類留言激下你至得

Kaizoku 2024-02-24 21:41:38

上面果位話熱到降頻都廢事出聲
會降頻就9成自已問題，是散熱廢定是機箱焗爐
bios果d -15 -20 都唔好講住

都是講返intel

power_off 2024-02-24 22:03:06

CPU Core/Cache Current Limit

power_off 2024-02-24 22:12:39

13900K 新玩命 setting : LLC7 + ACLL 0.01 + ICC 511.75A + PL 250W + MAX CPU TEMP 88 + core voltage offset - 0.05

Core Speed : P=57 / E=45 / R=50
玩咗幾粒鐘 ANNO 1800 同 Cyberpunk 2077 仲未炒