外國媒體報導越嚟越多 13900K 用家陸續出現遊戲崩潰情形，Intel 未有回應！

power_off · 2024-02-22T22:46:36+08:00

點睇 <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/is-your-intel-core-i9-13900k-crashing-in-games-your-motherboard-bios-settings-may-be-to-blame-other-high-end-intel-cpus-also-affected" data-sr-url="https://r.lihkg.com/link?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomshardware.com%2Fpc-components%2Fcpus%2Fis-your-intel-core-i9-13900k-crashing-in-games-your-motherboard-bios-settings-may-be-to-blame-other-high-end-intel-cpus-also-affected&d=tODUFOaExH724wU3jFOHdIV2cEnJYiPTex9Di97eiF8%3D&h=c8120612" target="_blank">https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/is-your-intel-core-i9-13900k-crashing-in-games-your-motherboard-bios-settings-may-be-to-blame-other-high-end-intel-cpus-also-affected Increasing numbers of users of the Core i9-13900K and Core i7-13700K have reported crashes in some of the latest games, usually accompanied by an out of video memory error. It's not just random end-users either: Our GPU reviewer has personally dealt with this, as has Hassan Mujtaba from WCCFTech. There's a new Steam forum thread on the subject as well. Considering Intel's processors are some of the best CPUs for gaming, it's a particularly painful problem when things go amiss. Our GPU reviewer dealt with the matter and finally tracked down the root cause to his motherboard's default power and current limit settings. Both were set to effectively "unlimited" — 4096W and 4096A — after loading the default optimized BIOS settings. That was with a Core i9-13900K, and while most reports concern the 13900K and 13700K thus far, the Core i9-14900K and Core i7-14700K may also be affected given they're basically the same silicon. Complaints about stability issues on the 13900K and 13700K aren't exactly widespread, but have become particularly concentrated on a handful of games, specifically for those with shader compilation. It's not even just a rumor going around on forums as at least two developers and Nvidia itself have explicitly identified that the "out of video memory error," which you would normally think is a GPU issue, is actually related to 13th Gen CPUs. Gearbox and Fatshark, which develop Remnant 2 and Vermintide 2 respectively, have both noted these very issues and have narrowed them down to the 13900K, and also the 13700K according to Fatshark. Gearbox even says, "If you experience this problem, you will likely also see it in other DX12 games," which is to say that it's not an issue specific to Remnant 2. The issue isn't even that new, as Gearbox's warnings were made back in August. Our own Jarred Walton has seen the problem in quite a few games: Alan Wake 2, Hogwarts Legacy, Horizon Zero Dawn, Immortals of Aveum, Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, and The Last of Us, Part 1 to name specific examples. Hogwarts, Horizon, and The Last of Us are all particularly painful examples in his case, and at 'stock' settings would crash during the shader compilation process probably over 90% of the time. So what's going on? For its part, Nvidia told a user that, "Despite the game saying the issue is with your VRAM... Unreal Engine 5 games seem to have some issues with this particular model (and possibly other 13th-generation Intel CPUs)." Nvidia and the two developers have all recommended that users who experience these crashes on the 13900K and other CPUs downclock their chips by up to 200MHz. The obvious downside of this is that it reduces performance, which isn't exactly ideal. But we and others have found some other solutions that seem to work just as well.

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S.Tasci 2024-02-23 06:23:56

一出就砌左部13900K 用到今時今日都未出事

power_off 2024-02-23 09:09:58

intel 今次呢單都係老母板預設 setting 累事

半條悟 2024-02-23 09:13:59

用家問題姐

power_off 2024-02-23 10:03:15

可能已經出咗事係你唔知啫

試下對比返最初入手嗰陣行 R23 全核 5.5 要用幾多電，今時今日再行 R23 又要用幾多電就知，用多咗咪姐係縮咗缸

RGB之鬼 2024-02-23 10:08:21

intel u 唔降壓根本唔可以正常用

最仆街既係唔知邊個版開始,一定要Z版先比你降壓

藤原啪啪子 2024-02-23 10:43:41

有部13900kf z790用嚟畫圖嘅
用咗3個月突然有一日剩係入到windows
之後所有software都crash同話唔夠ram, 行diagnostic tool去到prime number就fail.

等緊代理換

Total有5部同spec機希望其他4部唔會咁

標槍佬會攪掂 2024-02-23 10:44:50

毒撚唔易做 2024-02-23 10:47:20

13600k第一日就set左 -0.35v

之後玩alan wake2 hang左幾次機改到-0.2v後就冇再出過事

再扮女人我 2024-02-23 10:50:56

好過amd 會比人封account 先

power_off 2024-02-23 10:56:04

你講嗰單係 GPU 問題，我呢單係 CPU 問題，反還反用下個腦先

狗性易發 2024-02-23 11:20:16

留名等睇14900KS放煙花

power_off 2024-02-23 12:03:50

Update: We've reached out to Intel for comment, and the official response was: "Intel is aware of reports regarding Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen unlocked desktop processors experiencing issues with certain workloads. We’re engaged with our partners and are conducting analysis of the reported issues." Hopefully, things get sorted sooner than later.

power_off 2024-02-23 12:07:15

Wccftech 的 Hassan Mujtaba 對此有一個新穎的解決方案: 降低處理器電壓。

根據他的經驗，降低處理器電壓並恢復主機板 BIOS 設定中的庫存功率限制可以恢復遊戲穩定性。

同時，除了恢復功率限制之外，Tom's Hardware 建議採取一種略有不同的方法，將 P 核升壓倍數降低 2.0 倍（即將最大升壓頻率降低 200 MHz）。據稱這兩種方法都可以恢復i9-13900K 和 i7-13700K 的遊戲效能穩定性。雖然較新的第 14 代晶片尚未確認存在該問題，但按理說，即使是第 14 代 i9-14900K 和 i7-14700K 也可能受到此問題的影響。

我們仍然不知道為什麼它不會影響第 12 代晶片，因為它們的電源設計與第 13 代和第14 代晶片基本相同。

power_off 2024-02-23 12:12:51

另外有網友整理了Intel對於Raptor Lake的PL Spec如下

由上可知Intel「建議」的PL1為125、PL2為188，這與產品頁面的最大turbo功率明顯有出入

，無法實際證明超過「建議」數值對於CPU的壽命有何影響

。

且根據Max Value來看，Intel並沒有針對PL2做出最大功率限制，因此板廠普遍預設給你4096W並不算是他們的鍋，因為原本就沒有規範。

由此可推斷，本次事件主因為過高的電壓及過高的功率帶來高溫，使其在Intel 7製程下有一定數量的案例開始無法穩定使用。

同樣再次建議持有Intel Gen13/14的版友關閉CEP及限制PL，這可以最大限度的避免此類問題發生