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2020-11-07 00:37:19
咁多
2020-11-07 00:37:46
但係水印肉眼都見到
佢地拎到張sample應該就知
反而之前話有blockchain code就應該未必知
2020-11-07 00:37:46
水印單野有冇source?
2020-11-07 00:37:48
其實選票係聯邦政府定係州政府負責設計同印?
2020-11-07 00:37:55
佩洛西年紀仲大
2020-11-07 00:38:07
水印係咪俾個個人都unique
2020-11-07 00:38:30
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/bogus-qanon-claim-that-mail-in-ballots-are-illegitimate/

Quick Take

A bogus QAnon-related claim that many of the mail-in ballots for the Nov. 3 election were illegitimate has spread widely on social media. But the claim is based on the faulty assumption that ballots are produced by the federal government.
Full Story

On the second day without a clear outcome to the presidential election, a QAnon-related conspiracy theory has gained traction on social media.

QAnon followers, who regard President Donald Trump as a crusader against a shadowy group of elite pedophiles who supposedly run the government, have been posting bogus claims that many of the mail-in ballots being counted aren’t legitimate.

One widely shared version that started on Twitter and migrated to Facebook says: “Consider: Dept of Homeland Security controlled ‘official ballots’ production. Dems print extras, not knowing about non-radioactive isotope watermarks on ‘official ballots’. Military sting operation. After weeding out all counterfeit ballots, Trump landslide confirmed.”

Another commonly copied post on Facebook says, in part: “The ‘watch the water’ intel refers to …..THE WATERMARK on the official election ballots!!!! …The DEMS fell right into the trap of this sting operation and TRUMP has it all!!! Fraud will be exposed for the world to see.”

Both of those posts are pure bunk.

First of all, the Department of Homeland Security doesn’t produce ballots. That task is handled by local governments which, typically, contract with printing companies to make the ballots. The Wall Street Journal reported in August on the increase in demand for mail-in ballots due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

As for the claim, “The ‘watch the water’ intel refers to …..THE WATERMARK on the official election ballots!!!!” That’s an apparent reference to a February 2018 post from “Q,” the pseudonym used by the person or people who post cryptic messages on internet message boards that are the basis for the QAnon conspiracy theory.

It’s unclear why QAnon followers are pointing to this two-year-old message as support for a claim about fictitious watermarks on ballots in the 2020 election, but many of the clues posted by “Q” are either vague (such as, “watch the water”) or wrong, such as the suggestion in 2017 that Hillary Clinton would soon be arrested.

Despite the flimsiness of the claim, it prompted at least one person to examine the remnant of her ballot with a magnifying glass and post a video of her investigation on YouTube. The video appears to show some small specks on the strip of paper she examines.

“Oh dear,” she says in the video. “I think there is [a watermark] … Are you guys seeing this? What do you guys think?”

“THE DEMS ARE IN FOR A GOOD ONE BOIS, THE TRAP WAS SET AND THEY TOOK THE BAIT. thanks for the video, you’re a legend,” responded one user.

“Trump, you are a Goddamn genius,” said another.

The video had been viewed more than 100,000 times as of Nov. 5, but it offered no proof of a watermark on a ballot, only a few small specks on a strip of paper.

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook to debunk misinformation shared on social media. Our previous stories can be found here.

This fact check is available at IFCN’s 2020 US Elections FactChat #Chatbot on WhatsApp. Click here for more.
Sources

“Election Administration at State and Local Levels.” National Conference of State Legislatures. 3 Feb 2020.

“Our Government — Elections & Voting.” Whitehouse.gov. Accessed 5 Nov 2020.

Hufford, Austen and Joshua Jamerson. “Voting by Mail? These Companies Are Rushing to Print Your Ballot.” Wall Street Journal. 21 Aug 2020.

Philadelphia City Commissioners. “Philadelphia City Commissioners Live Stream.” YouTube. Started streaming 3 Nov 2020.

Selk, Avi and Abby Ohlheiser. “How QAnon, the conspiracy theory spawned by a Trump quip, got so big and scary.” Washington Post. 1 Aug 2
2020-11-07 00:38:31
選舉所有野都係州政府
2020-11-07 00:38:50
真心覺得冇咩可能唔知有水印/防偽特徵
講緊要種咁多票,風險太大
2020-11-07 00:38:52
兩黨都有人做過總統
兩黨高層乜都知啦
2020-11-07 00:38:53
咪銀紙嗰d
2020-11-07 00:39:41
如果上埋blockchain(第二個post講)就一定係unique
2020-11-07 00:39:42
有消息吹到個水印係要用啲放射乜鳩先read到
2020-11-07 00:39:43
因為好來好去,如果最後都係trump 贏就諗住隻眼開隻眼閉
2020-11-07 00:39:45
屌你reboot house of card
2020-11-07 00:39:45
無可能
當佢無印,有比人捉到用錢買人票
未計幫屋企人投,根本無得check
2020-11-07 00:39:52
啲票係邊個部門負責印?
2020-11-07 00:40:03
但係如果佢recount可唔可以提出check水印呢個步驟?
2020-11-07 00:40:17
水印有可能會係隱形墨水,要特別情況下先現形
水印亦有機會係造紙時候已經產生,好似有隻叫conqueror既紙,佢既水印係靠滾筒壓出黎。

如果當你request 郵寄,佢淨係為呢批紙做水印,然後銷毀晒所有墨水同滾筒,基本上如果你要冒都有難度,而且咁短時間。
2020-11-07 00:40:26
First of all, the Department of Homeland Security doesn’t produce ballots. That task is handled by local governments which, typically, contract with printing companies to make the ballots. The Wall Street Journal reported in August on the increase in demand for mail-in ballots due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

As for the claim, “The ‘watch the water’ intel refers to …..THE WATERMARK on the official election ballots!!!!” That’s an apparent reference to a February 2018 post from “Q,” the pseudonym used by the person or people who post cryptic messages on internet message boards that are the basis for the QAnon conspiracy theory.
2020-11-07 00:40:30
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