“At Liverpool, you had people like Jordan Henderson, who was a great role model, and all the lads were extremely humble,” he says. “They didn’t drive flashy cars or wear flashy clothes. They’d go out of their way to ask how you and your family were.
“You go down to the lower leagues and all of a sudden you see flashy cars — all leased, obviously. Lads on 10 times less money, but it’s flashy clothes, big egos, cockier. I remember thinking, ‘Bloody hell, what’s gone on here?’.”