五夜講場?

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天線得得得b 2022-01-29 16:44:26
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https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/五夜講場系列

本身諗住 標題係 哲學有偈傾
不過 順便拉埋歷史 社科 文學 科學都好

有無興趣 譬如每星期 (甚至每個月) 搵其中一集睇 (甚至每科搵一集睇)
然後 其他時間 就各自搵d相關讀物睇下?

我唔太記得以前返學係點
好似ideally 3個鐘lecture既話
係expect學生花3倍時間 自己去深化上堂學既topic?
不過嗰時我自己都完全無咁樣做

講返而家 上述都係suggest下
方向同實踐方法 都係好粗糙咁suggest下 好大空間refine

有無人仔有興趣lead?
如果有 我自己剩係想做下參加者

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNPbNmsdGNw&ab_channel=好青年荼毒室-哲學部
不過上述諗法 都係 見到好青年個 哲學係咁傾 就開

就算上述無實踐到 遲d哲學係咁傾 出既時候
我諗我自己可能都會借佢地內容 lead下我自己 搵下讀物去讀

見到四哥講meaning of life 好似幾有趣
至少嗰個topic想讀多d related既讀物
白滑軟腍腍 2022-01-29 16:46:44
連登有計傾
師兄一號 2022-01-29 16:49:50
撐下先
其實可以跟荼毒室個topic講一個星期又得
睇下點? 2022-01-29 17:13:52
有心想學就唔使搵人lead/guide住自己,依家你講成一個hype咁去隆重其事。
Btw, 我睇緊佢哋嘅書, 關於「人生的意義」大致上佢哋唔會講到有絕對嘅定義。而係講出一啲框架,釐定與其他字眼嘅關係,再俾你空間思考自己。
玄米律詩 2022-01-29 17:24:43
報定名先
天線得得得b 2022-01-29 17:37:30
https://lihkg.com/thread/2857647/page/5
同人一齊講Foucault幾開心
好開心有樓主一齊讀
如果我自己一個讀 應該會表面讀下 無興趣就唔讀
唔會打字 唔會同人講自己既理解 少d動機去堅持

好奇 會唔會誘發到其他topic有人仔一齊讀
我自己有志同道合者一齊讀 係幾開心
天線得得得b 2022-01-29 21:06:07
睇緊Ivan Illich,Deschooling Society。

> The majority cannot and should not be rallied for discussion around a slogan, a word, or a picture. But the idea remains the same: they should be able to meet around a problem chosen and defined by their own initiative. Creative, exploratory learning requires peers currently puzzled about the same terms or problems.
天線得得得b 2022-01-29 21:08:45
> In schools, including universities, most resources are spent to purchase the time and motivation of a limited number of people to take up predetermined problems in a ritually defined setting. The most radical alternative to school would be a network or service which gave each man the same opportunity to share his current concern with others motivated by the same concern.
天線得得得b 2022-01-29 21:24:20
> Each man, at any given moment and at a minimum price, could identify himself to a computer with his address and telephone number, indicating the book, article, film, or recording on which he seeks a partner for discussion. Within days he could receive by mail the list of others who recently had taken the same initiative. This list would enable him by telephone to arrange for a meeting with persons who initially would be known exclusively by the fact that they requested a dialogue about the same subject.
天線得得得b 2022-01-29 21:27:55
> Incidental education cannot any longer return to the forms which learning took in the village or the medieval town. Traditional society was more like a set of concentric circles of meaningful structures, while modern man must learn how to find meaning in many structures to which he is only marginally related. In the village, language and architecture and work and religion and family customs were consistent with one another, mutually explanatory and reinforcing. To grow into one implied a growth into the others. Even specialized apprenticeship was a by-product of specialized activities, such as shoemaking or the singing of psalms. If an apprentice never became a master or a scholar, he still contributed to making shoes or to making church services solemn. Education did not compete for time with either work or leisure. Almost all education was complex, lifelong, and unplanned.

Contemporary society is the result of conscious designs, and educational opportunities must be designed into them. Our reliance on specialized, full-time instruction through school will now decrease, and we must find more ways to learn and teach: the educational quality of all institutions must increase again. But this is a very ambiguous forecast. It could mean that men in the modern city will be increasingly the victims of an effective process of total instruction and manipulation once they are deprived of even the tenuous pretense of critical independence which liberal schools now provide for at least some of their pupils.
警嫂要人 2022-01-30 01:53:52
無能廢柴 2022-01-30 02:13:02
會點執呀我都想有班咁既朋友但我又好毒唔敢講野
無能廢柴 2022-01-30 02:13:25
會點執我都想有班咁既朋友但我又好毒唔敢講野
天線得得得b 2022-01-30 05:34:00
唔知呀
我都係隨便講自己既想 睇下有無人想lead想guide
無既話 就自己做住先
我都係毒毒
天線得得得b 2022-01-30 13:22:01
椒鹽蝦米 2022-01-30 13:36:28
天線得得得b 2022-01-30 14:15:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TCZx6n3Wa0&ab_channel=CantoneseReadingAcademy粵讀學院

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講死亡。
聽到,哲學部分,都係偏向常聽既話題。
伊壁鳩魯,無理由怕死。
海德格,死亡同焦慮賦予生命價值。
Bernard Williams,永生非可欲。
應用倫理學上,自殺權、安樂死、生命自主權、醫療自主權。

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反而,我覺得陳曉蕾幾有趣。
強調實踐;強調現實;強調社會體制下,具體既人死前既幸福度。
會想睇佢既書。

陶生有種,因為年紀大,而偏向固守自己有限領域既感覺。
覺得自己追問緊,死亡上本質既問題;
不停提,大哲學家點樣諗;
但當陳講現實既事宜,陶就好似覺得,本質既問題自成一角,唔需要透過個體個別既經驗,去修正。

劉保、Samson、鹽叔,對陶生長輩尊重,同時不停連接陶生偏離地既講法,同現實或日常既關係。

呢個互動係有趣,但個人偏向覺得,無陶生加入,會自然d、和諧d。

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相關readings:
死亡哲學:耶魯大學第一公開課


最好的告別:關於衰老與死亡,你必須知道的常識


陳曉蕾
死在香港:見棺材
死在香港:流眼淚
香港好走:有選擇?
香港好走:怎照顧

Applied ethics應該要搵英文resources
天線得得得b 2022-01-30 15:52:50
天線得得得b 2022-01-30 17:17:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgAFhGvFNso&ab_channel=CantoneseReadingAcademy粵讀學院

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睇左第一節。
講皇位繼承。
感覺比較似講細節,而唔係講歷史大畫面。
覺得唔洗睇晒,特別係,可能可以揀嚟睇。

如果近代史都未有初步了解。
就去了解歷史久遠既故仔。
好似本末倒置。
天線得得得b 2022-01-30 17:55:01
Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu6vkKuukCE&ab_channel=CantoneseReadingAcademy粵讀學院

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無特別深既觀點,但提住唔同名作家既名,講一兩句背景吸引人去理解,似表達緊人去講既reading list。
其中一d作者名:

詩經
查泰萊夫人的情人
1984
我們
大師和瑪格麗特

茨維塔耶娃
阿赫瑪托娃
曼德爾施塔姆
陳冠中

日本無賴派
太宰治
坂口安吾

川端康成
周耀輝
笹垣潤三 2022-01-30 18:50:00
我都等咗好耐 心諗唔係一個星期一集架咩
天線得得得b 2022-01-30 19:36:30
> 最好的告別,自介

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如何準備,去面對衰老和死亡?

1.2
理智者臨死前會有不理智的求生欲望。
那時,需要他人與他誠實地討論。
誠實討論的本質,是觸及疾病的真相。

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死亡是敵人。
死亡又是正常現象。
但死亡作為自然一方,永遠勝利。

沒有人可以逃避每天衰老的事實。

1.4
生的悅愉,死的坦然。
業餘故評人 2022-01-30 19:40:18
點解有心學唔可以搵人guide?
點解唔可以係因為有心學先想搵人指導呢
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