[DSE化學2017]同學準備好DSE CHEM未?

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2017-04-11 15:09:46
請問下最後一日應該點溫好 .
之前溫數溫到無理過Chem
而家唔知點好 利申3底

same

btw, 點樣由rate equation 知道rate-determining step?

簡單講 如果一個reaction有好多細steps
只有involve左RDS既reactant會有order並出現係rate equation度
無involve RDS既reactant一律係0 order
e.g.
1. A->2B slow
2. 2B->C fast
rate = k[A]
2017-04-11 15:11:06
我想問 宜家dse仲會唔會好似samplepaper paper2咁問ethanol + acidified potassium dichromate嘅full formula架?
佢個ans係直頭要balance曬所有野
我學個陣都剩係要寫個Cr2O72-(aq)/H+(aq)係個箭咀上面 求解答

有機會
如果要bal佢會叫你bal埋 或者之後有數計
其實都係redox黎
2017-04-11 15:11:29
sor遲左
upload埋elective分析

工業化學:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2VBWpz2N4t7U1RwZkhxVzNUQ1U

大熱topic:
energy profile 能線圖 (本人心水) - 搵Ea/RDS決速部/催化劑影響
Ea Graph題型 - Arrhenius equation 阿列紐斯方程
chloroalkali 氯鹼 - Hg vs membrane electrolytic cell 汞 vs 膜 電解池
Atom econ 原子經濟


分析化學:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2VBWpz2N4t7ZGdqTkxvSEJzY00

大熱topic:
chromatography (本人心水) - 計Rf / 解釋result / TLC vs column柱 / spot無色點算
distillation/fractional distillation 蒸餾法 / 分餾法
titration (年年考) - mohr method 莫爾滴定 AgNO3 vs Cl-
mass spec + IR 質譜+紅外光譜 - 估官能基/估碎片/估結構

係呢 咁如果個spot真係無色咁點算?
2017-04-11 15:13:54
sor遲左
upload埋elective分析

工業化學:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2VBWpz2N4t7U1RwZkhxVzNUQ1U

大熱topic:
energy profile 能線圖 (本人心水) - 搵Ea/RDS決速部/催化劑影響
Ea Graph題型 - Arrhenius equation 阿列紐斯方程
chloroalkali 氯鹼 - Hg vs membrane electrolytic cell 汞 vs 膜 電解池
Atom econ 原子經濟


分析化學:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2VBWpz2N4t7ZGdqTkxvSEJzY00

大熱topic:
chromatography (本人心水) - 計Rf / 解釋result / TLC vs column柱 / spot無色點算
distillation/fractional distillation 蒸餾法 / 分餾法
titration (年年考) - mohr method 莫爾滴定 AgNO3 vs Cl-
mass spec + IR 質譜+紅外光譜 - 估官能基/估碎片/估結構


正正有題atom economy

可否詳細教教呢種multiple steps ?

e.g.

A (+H2O) -> B (+HCl) -> C (+NaOH) -> D

AE = D / (A+ H2O + HCl + NaOH)
2017-04-11 15:15:49
Metal同acid base個part可以點溫
有時mc比4條式問邊隻有reaction/ppt/gas evolved 就好驚諗漏
其實有邊幾類大topic嘅reaction
Neutralization, redox, ppt個類?


記熟d公式
metal + O2/H2O

displacement

acid + metal / oxide / hydroxide / carbonate / hydrogencarbonate

solubility rule要背
2017-04-11 15:17:22
SO2+Ca(OH)2 係neutralisation?
雖然都係出salt and water, 但SO2係acidic substance唔係acid?


acid: a H containing compound which produce H+ as the only ion when dissolving in water

SO2係acidic但唔係acid

嚴格意義上唔係neutralization
2017-04-11 15:19:34
sor遲左
upload埋elective分析

工業化學:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2VBWpz2N4t7U1RwZkhxVzNUQ1U

大熱topic:
energy profile 能線圖 (本人心水) - 搵Ea/RDS決速部/催化劑影響
Ea Graph題型 - Arrhenius equation 阿列紐斯方程
chloroalkali 氯鹼 - Hg vs membrane electrolytic cell 汞 vs 膜 電解池
Atom econ 原子經濟


分析化學:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2VBWpz2N4t7ZGdqTkxvSEJzY00

大熱topic:
chromatography (本人心水) - 計Rf / 解釋result / TLC vs column柱 / spot無色點算
distillation/fractional distillation 蒸餾法 / 分餾法
titration (年年考) - mohr method 莫爾滴定 AgNO3 vs Cl-
mass spec + IR 質譜+紅外光譜 - 估官能基/估碎片/估結構

係呢 咁如果個spot真係無色咁點算?

UV light / iodine vapor
2017-04-11 15:19:38
想問哈柏法/合成氣轉甲醇嗰堆式係咪要寫埋催化劑,溫度同壓強
2017-04-11 15:20:54
Metal同acid base個part可以點溫
有時mc比4條式問邊隻有reaction/ppt/gas evolved 就好驚諗漏
其實有邊幾類大topic嘅reaction
Neutralization, redox, ppt個類?


記熟d公式
metal + O2/H2O

displacement

acid + metal / oxide / hydroxide / carbonate / hydrogencarbonate

solubility rule要背

想問下solubility rule係咩 突然唔記得左咁 係咪者係某d metal+halogen/SO4會出ppt果d
2017-04-11 15:22:21
sor遲左
upload埋elective分析

工業化學:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2VBWpz2N4t7U1RwZkhxVzNUQ1U

大熱topic:
energy profile 能線圖 (本人心水) - 搵Ea/RDS決速部/催化劑影響
Ea Graph題型 - Arrhenius equation 阿列紐斯方程
chloroalkali 氯鹼 - Hg vs membrane electrolytic cell 汞 vs 膜 電解池
Atom econ 原子經濟


分析化學:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2VBWpz2N4t7ZGdqTkxvSEJzY00

大熱topic:
chromatography (本人心水) - 計Rf / 解釋result / TLC vs column柱 / spot無色點算
distillation/fractional distillation 蒸餾法 / 分餾法
titration (年年考) - mohr method 莫爾滴定 AgNO3 vs Cl-
mass spec + IR 質譜+紅外光譜 - 估官能基/估碎片/估結構


正正有題atom economy

可否詳細教教呢種multiple steps ?


想知點計

總之係target product / ALL reactant
留意佢中途出果舊野唔計 因為step1 form出黎後step2 consume返 約走左
btw條無balance完整個樣比你 計唔到係正常
2017-04-11 15:22:47
想問哈柏法/合成氣轉甲醇嗰堆式係咪要寫埋催化劑,溫度同壓強

2017-04-11 15:23:56
Metal同acid base個part可以點溫
有時mc比4條式問邊隻有reaction/ppt/gas evolved 就好驚諗漏
其實有邊幾類大topic嘅reaction
Neutralization, redox, ppt個類?


記熟d公式
metal + O2/H2O

displacement

acid + metal / oxide / hydroxide / carbonate / hydrogencarbonate

solubility rule要背

想問下solubility rule係咩 突然唔記得左咁 係咪者係某d metal+halogen/SO4會出ppt果d

邊d salt soluble/ insoluble
2017-04-11 15:24:43
Metal同acid base個part可以點溫
有時mc比4條式問邊隻有reaction/ppt/gas evolved 就好驚諗漏
其實有邊幾類大topic嘅reaction
Neutralization, redox, ppt個類?


記熟d公式
metal + O2/H2O

displacement

acid + metal / oxide / hydroxide / carbonate / hydrogencarbonate

solubility rule要背

想問下solubility rule係咩 突然唔記得左咁 係咪者係某d metal+halogen/SO4會出ppt果d

邊d salt soluble/ insoluble

唔該 好似第一次聽solubility rule呢個term
2017-04-11 15:57:23
針對你提到Mohr method

用standard AgNO3 titrate against sample with unknown [Cl-/Br-/I-] with a small V of CrO42- as an indicator

其實唔會一開始直接Ag+ react with CrO42- 出 Ag2Cr2O4 reddish brown ppt, 直接影響結果嗎?

書/筆記都假設Ag+ can first react with Cl- in the sample, then react with CrO42-

Ag+應該唔識selectively react吧?
2017-04-11 16:03:04
針對你提到Mohr method

用standard AgNO3 titrate against sample with unknown [Cl-/Br-/I-] with a small V of CrO42- as an indicator

其實唔會一開始直接Ag+ react with CrO42- 出 Ag2Cr2O4 reddish brown ppt, 直接影響結果嗎?

書/筆記都假設Ag+ can first react with Cl- in the sample, then react with CrO42-

Ag+應該唔識selectively react吧?

Kc黎
Ag+ + Cl- <-> AgCl (Kc1)
2Ag+ + CrO42- <-> Ag2CrO4 (Kc2)
因為AgCl less soluble than Ag2CrO4 (Kc 1 << Kc2)
所以Ag+會preferentially react with Cl-先
Cl- used up先會到CrO42-
Kc 1 Kc 2係競爭關係 Cl-搶Ag+能力高好多
2017-04-11 16:04:05
雙手拍一拍 大叫練成 保各位拎5星星
2017-04-11 16:05:54
針對你提到Mohr method

用standard AgNO3 titrate against sample with unknown [Cl-/Br-/I-] with a small V of CrO42- as an indicator

其實唔會一開始直接Ag+ react with CrO42- 出 Ag2Cr2O4 reddish brown ppt, 直接影響結果嗎?

書/筆記都假設Ag+ can first react with Cl- in the sample, then react with CrO42-

Ag+應該唔識selectively react吧?

Kc黎
Ag+ + Cl- <-> AgCl (Kc1)
2Ag+ + CrO42- <-> Ag2CrO4 (Kc2)
因為AgCl less soluble than Ag2CrO4 (Kc 1 << Kc2)
所以Ag+會preferentially react with Cl-先
Cl- used up先會到CrO42-
Kc 1 Kc 2係競爭關係 Cl-搶Ag+能力高好多

果然如此!
感謝
2017-04-11 16:09:08
延伸題:

如果題目問點解唔可以用acidified AgNO3

是否Ag2Cr2O7 會soluble in HNO3 such that no observance first appearance of Ag2Cr2O7?
2017-04-11 16:09:50
會炸到今晚
請見諒 thanks

因為跟緊syllabus 問緊任何可能問題
2017-04-11 16:13:55
延伸題:

如果題目問點解唔可以用acidified AgNO3

是否Ag2Cr2O7 會soluble in HNO3 such that no observance first appearance of Ag2Cr2O7?

?????
2017-04-11 16:16:11
想問整soap個原理係咪者係alkaline hydrolysis of ester?
2017-04-11 16:24:36
延伸題:

如果題目問點解唔可以用acidified AgNO3

是否Ag2Cr2O7 會soluble in HNO3 such that no observance first appearance of Ag2Cr2O7?

?????

其實用standard acidified AgNO3 ok ?
2017-04-11 16:28:21
想問點解3(a)(iii) 答案係column chromatography?
2017-04-11 16:42:01
想問整soap個原理係咪者係alkaline hydrolysis of ester?

yes
2017-04-11 16:42:11
延伸題:

如果題目問點解唔可以用acidified AgNO3

是否Ag2Cr2O7 會soluble in HNO3 such that no observance first appearance of Ag2Cr2O7?

?????

其實用standard acidified AgNO3 ok ?

yes
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