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Subnautica開發者控告Krafton為免出bonus而阻撓遊戲今年推出、dev拒收少啲bonus後雞咗佢哋
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I don't want to believe it, but if this leak turns out to be true, then it suggests that Unknown Worlds wasn't even able to reach the 20% development milestone originally set for Early Access, even after years of delays. And if Krafton had to lower that bar to just 10%—and they still couldn't meet it-then it's honestly understandable why the founders were let go and the release was delayed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/s/3ovUcMnMLh
https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/s/3ovUcMnMLh
成日都有d dev閉門造車話「我話夠架啦, 得架啦, work架啦」然後推舊屎出黎，真係唔敢亂信話人地為唔派錢所以拖，你估養一team人多一年無貨賣蝕得少 
Charlie仲要同人分享2023佢搬咗去LA拍戲自爆
He had been promoting and podcasting on his personal website for months that he was making an Elf movie using LLM, combining early access and funding. It's not effective even if some people ignore his comments and defend him.
https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/s/6nPpnv5VGL
He's stated several times that he's ready to move on from Subnautica and onto other things. In an interview regarding Moonbreaker, he said as follows:
I needed to switch away from Subnautica. I’d been working on it for five years, as intensely as I have been working on Moonbreaker for five years. But this one I want to keep working on. I love Subnautica, but those five years were really tough.
We want to make a game that’s gonna last a decade or longer. Subnautica couldn’t do that, because it just wasn’t designed to be expanded. This time, we’re like, ‘OK, let’s get all of our ducks in a row. If this works, how can we figure out a way to support it forever?’ And so here we are. Ten years is a long time. I don’t think I’ll be working this much on it. I mean, Mark Rosewater is the chief designer of Magic, and he’s been doing it for 20 years. He’s not slowing down, he’s doing these daily podcasts in his car. Who knows? I could be that guy.
And on the website for his AI slop film studio, he says as follows:
I’m Charlie Cleveland and I’ve been designing video games for over 25 years. I founded Unknown Worlds and built games like Natural Selection, Natural Selection 2, Subnautica and Moonbreaker. I absolutely love making games but wanted to try something new.
At the end of 2023, I left San Francisco after almost 20 years and moved to Los Angeles to reset my life. Instead of taking it easy, I now find myself working on multiple film projects. It’s amazing how fast it’s all happening - being right in the thick of things makes it so much easier to meet like-minded people!
There's nothing wrong with wanting to move on from your old projects, he's clearly a passionate artist. But if he wants to move on from Subnautica, he needs to stop stringing along the fanbase for his own benefit like he's doing right now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/s/X9r8tCZOBC
自爆He had been promoting and podcasting on his personal website for months that he was making an Elf movie using LLM, combining early access and funding. It's not effective even if some people ignore his comments and defend him.
https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/s/6nPpnv5VGL
He's stated several times that he's ready to move on from Subnautica and onto other things. In an interview regarding Moonbreaker, he said as follows:
I needed to switch away from Subnautica. I’d been working on it for five years, as intensely as I have been working on Moonbreaker for five years. But this one I want to keep working on. I love Subnautica, but those five years were really tough.
We want to make a game that’s gonna last a decade or longer. Subnautica couldn’t do that, because it just wasn’t designed to be expanded. This time, we’re like, ‘OK, let’s get all of our ducks in a row. If this works, how can we figure out a way to support it forever?’ And so here we are. Ten years is a long time. I don’t think I’ll be working this much on it. I mean, Mark Rosewater is the chief designer of Magic, and he’s been doing it for 20 years. He’s not slowing down, he’s doing these daily podcasts in his car. Who knows? I could be that guy.
And on the website for his AI slop film studio, he says as follows:
I’m Charlie Cleveland and I’ve been designing video games for over 25 years. I founded Unknown Worlds and built games like Natural Selection, Natural Selection 2, Subnautica and Moonbreaker. I absolutely love making games but wanted to try something new.
At the end of 2023, I left San Francisco after almost 20 years and moved to Los Angeles to reset my life. Instead of taking it easy, I now find myself working on multiple film projects. It’s amazing how fast it’s all happening - being right in the thick of things makes it so much easier to meet like-minded people!
There's nothing wrong with wanting to move on from your old projects, he's clearly a passionate artist. But if he wants to move on from Subnautica, he needs to stop stringing along the fanbase for his own benefit like he's doing right now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/s/X9r8tCZOBC
你畀泡菜狗嘅輿論話術誤導咗，本身krafton嘅收購價係5億唔係小數目，彭博話收購協議包括2025年公司營收達標就大嗱嗱分2.5億奬金畀原公司全部人，依家話高層怠工就將佢哋換血，空降CEO同將隻驚EA推遲一年，變相慳咗呢筆錢，所以原高層Cleveland就告上法庭
用原製作公司嘅角度，驚係佢哋整，本身Subnautica 2係有班fans等好耐，就算佢哋做得再屎2.5億可能冇走雞，依家話成品唔達標就唔上，可以到手嘅錢就冇咗
只係Krafton都有公告好豪咁話2.5億就如協議交咗高層嗰份畀佢哋，暗示成件事員工至係冇得分嗰班，玩晒分化
咁啱得咁橋，Reddit 就「咁啱」洩漏咗Subnautica 2嘅內部評價，話內容量不適合上EA
又「咁啱」挖到個CEO上年去咗參與電影製作
Reddit都有人笑班員工post資料帶風向夠晒落力
只可以講，一涉及泡菜呢個物種，所有網上風向 流量 評價乜柒都冇意義，狗咬狗當戲咁睇
用原製作公司嘅角度，驚係佢哋整，本身Subnautica 2係有班fans等好耐，就算佢哋做得再屎2.5億可能冇走雞，依家話成品唔達標就唔上，可以到手嘅錢就冇咗
只係Krafton都有公告好豪咁話2.5億就如協議交咗高層嗰份畀佢哋，暗示成件事員工至係冇得分嗰班，玩晒分化
咁啱得咁橋，Reddit 就「咁啱」洩漏咗Subnautica 2嘅內部評價，話內容量不適合上EA
又「咁啱」挖到個CEO上年去咗參與電影製作
Reddit都有人笑班員工post資料帶風向夠晒落力
只可以講，一涉及泡菜呢個物種，所有網上風向 流量 評價乜柒都冇意義，狗咬狗當戲咁睇
250M美金bonus係咩事
當遊戲30美金一份唔計成本要賣800萬份喎
邊有可能做到
達到某啲milestone 係咩意思 銷量？推出日期？
唔跟車太貼了
當遊戲30美金一份唔計成本要賣800萬份喎
邊有可能做到
達到某啲milestone 係咩意思 銷量？推出日期？
唔跟車太貼了
咁突然 我近排仲loop緊stupid cupid
依家口同鼻拗緊
你講拍戲呢單，Bloomberg就話其實Cleveland幫拍緊Subnautica戲，唔係私事
咁佢有冇拍自己戲？係有嘅，但Krafton只highlight呢part嚟講
However, as reported by Bloomberg, a lawsuit against Krafton, filed for breach of contract by Unknown Worlds' former leadership team, claims that Cleveland was, in fact, working on a Subnautica movie the publisher is said to have specifically asked the studio to develop. Bloomberg journalist Jason Schreier later noted on social media that "Cleveland was also working on some sort of AI Christmas film, which Krafton was likely referring to. They just didn't mention the Subnautica film part of it."
你講拍戲呢單，Bloomberg就話其實Cleveland幫拍緊Subnautica戲，唔係私事
咁佢有冇拍自己戲？係有嘅，但Krafton只highlight呢part嚟講
However, as reported by Bloomberg, a lawsuit against Krafton, filed for breach of contract by Unknown Worlds' former leadership team, claims that Cleveland was, in fact, working on a Subnautica movie the publisher is said to have specifically asked the studio to develop. Bloomberg journalist Jason Schreier later noted on social media that "Cleveland was also working on some sort of AI Christmas film, which Krafton was likely referring to. They just didn't mention the Subnautica film part of it."
Dev一方話有啲"agreed upon" milestone，報道話其一係2025年出的話要達至某個銷量
其次就係#3由Krafton一方leak嗰啲
Dev話meet咗，Krafton話未得
嗰250m就唔知點計，或者Subnautica個IP真係有咁值錢？
A report by Bloomberg says the sweetener would include a $25 million payout to be shared (unequally) among roughly 40 specific developers at the studio. All other workers would meanwhile get a bonus paid this year, an advance on the "projected 2026 profit-sharing bonus pool". Although the amounts involved for those employees isn't specified.
It's a big wad of cash. It is also just one-tenth of the $250 million Krafton were due to pay out to the studio if it achieved certain sales figures by the end of 2025. So a relative bargain for the South Korean corporation. The reasons for all this are muddy. So let's go mudlarking.
其次就係#3由Krafton一方leak嗰啲
Dev話meet咗，Krafton話未得
嗰250m就唔知點計，或者Subnautica個IP真係有咁值錢？
A report by Bloomberg says the sweetener would include a $25 million payout to be shared (unequally) among roughly 40 specific developers at the studio. All other workers would meanwhile get a bonus paid this year, an advance on the "projected 2026 profit-sharing bonus pool". Although the amounts involved for those employees isn't specified.
It's a big wad of cash. It is also just one-tenth of the $250 million Krafton were due to pay out to the studio if it achieved certain sales figures by the end of 2025. So a relative bargain for the South Korean corporation. The reasons for all this are muddy. So let's go mudlarking.
flayra 哩條友廿幾年前已經呃完人錢拎去買法拉利
買完無錢又同班玩家眾籌
整緊隻game 個時成個php forum死撚左幾年無人理
個幾年叫天不應叫地不聞
哩條友做野天一半地一半死好彩出到隻subnautica
買完無錢又同班玩家眾籌
整緊隻game 個時成個php forum死撚左幾年無人理
個幾年叫天不應叫地不聞
哩條友做野天一半地一半死好彩出到隻subnautica
因為有拍Subnautica戲，所以仲拍緊其他戲搞到game delay完仲縮水就無問題？
player係想玩你隻game，投資者課金係想你整game，唔係想你拍戲，有乜嘢咁難明？
delay完2年仲未做到最初EA承諾嘅內容，有乜好講
At the end of 2023, I left San Francisco after almost 20 years and moved to Los Angeles to reset my life. Instead of taking it easy, I now find myself working on multiple film projects.
player係想玩你隻game，投資者課金係想你整game，唔係想你拍戲，有乜嘢咁難明？
delay完2年仲未做到最初EA承諾嘅內容，有乜好講
At the end of 2023, I left San Francisco after almost 20 years and moved to Los Angeles to reset my life. Instead of taking it easy, I now find myself working on multiple film projects.
佢如果交到貨又真係冇問題wo
依家個拗撬位係係咪真係交到貨
Dev依家就係聲稱做到咗，純粹Krafton阻住出，畀人無故解僱
Krafton嘅版本就係「leak」個milestone嚟證明真係未做到，並非無故解僱
依家兩個都係自己講，判都未判唔敢講邊個版本啱
依家個拗撬位係係咪真係交到貨
Dev依家就係聲稱做到咗，純粹Krafton阻住出，畀人無故解僱
Krafton嘅版本就係「leak」個milestone嚟證明真係未做到，並非無故解僱
依家兩個都係自己講，判都未判唔敢講邊個版本啱
咁unknown worlds仲有一大班員工嫁嘛...
如果EA目標係假好快就踢爆
如果EA目標係假好快就踢爆
KRAFTON招數好明顯，人格謀殺CEO
第一講奬金已經畀咗佢哋幾個大頭，係班員工冇份
第二上網整張表唱衰你隻驚交唔到貨
第三起你底CEO不務正業
CEO控訴係話本身可以交得出，係咪未夠料上EA點解由KRAFTON 決定，用炒人換血㩒停係賤招
Spin去隻驚個完成度、CEO嘅工作能力已經係畀人帶錯咗風向
依家講推遲到出年，到時睇有乜內容咪知到底邊個係人係鬼，依家只係得兩邊互吠，同班護主犬急住盡忠鳩叫
第一講奬金已經畀咗佢哋幾個大頭，係班員工冇份
第二上網整張表唱衰你隻驚交唔到貨
第三起你底CEO不務正業
CEO控訴係話本身可以交得出，係咪未夠料上EA點解由KRAFTON 決定，用炒人換血㩒停係賤招
Spin去隻驚個完成度、CEO嘅工作能力已經係畀人帶錯咗風向
依家講推遲到出年，到時睇有乜內容咪知到底邊個係人係鬼，依家只係得兩邊互吠，同班護主犬急住盡忠鳩叫