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20k喺目前嚟講係唔夠砌9800X3D+5080，21k就得

5070 Ti 4K會快過9070 XT約5%


5070 Ti砌法：
1 x AMD Ryzen™ 7 9800X3D 盒裝 法奧自保 (三年有壞一換一 / 無貨更換全數退款)
價錢：$4,099

1 x ASUS TUF GAMING B850M-PLUS AM5 DDR5 Micro-ATX
價錢：$1,940

1 x Patriot Viper Venom DDR5 2x32GB 64GB 6000MHz C30
價錢：$1,299

1 x WD Black™ SN850X 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4
價錢：$999

1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX™ 5070 Ti EAGLE OC SFF 16GB GDDR7 (可單買或砌機)
價錢：$8,099

1 x [3月優惠]FSP Hydro G Pro 850W 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.1 12V-2X6 (砌機減$100)
價錢：$949

1 x Montech AIR 100 LITE Micro-ATX
價錢：$299

1 x Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE PS120 SE
價錢：$349

2 x [優惠]Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM Premium Quality Quiet 120mm Fan
價錢：$490

1 x $80 砌機服務，首30天免費上門收機檢查，五年免費自攜保養。
價錢：$80

總計: $18,603
https://www.faroll.com/customize#MjgyNCw1OTA1LDYxMCw2MTAsNjQ3NCw4NTQ1LDg2NzAsODY4OSw4ODM0LDg4NzE

呢個機箱大過你用緊嗰個少少，你最好度下夠唔夠位擺先

其實你只要將5070 Ti換成最平嘅9070 XT，跟住揀返9700X bundle同將CPU散熱器轉做Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE Plus，就可以再慳到幾十蚊

睇過YouTube 打3a 嘅話14600kf同9700x差好少
但新手係咪唔建議用intel(縮缸）

1 x AMD Ryzen™ 5 7500F TRAY
價錢：$1,099

1 x [現貨]ASUS TUF GAMING B650M-E WIFI DDR5 AM5 Micro-ATX (砌機減$150)
價錢：$1,199

1 x ADATA Lancer Blade DDR5 32GB 2x16GB 6000Mhz C30 - Black
價錢：$699

1 x Kingston KC3000 Series 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4
價錢：$650

1 x [3月優惠]Sapphire PULSE AMD Radeon RX 7700 XT 12GB GDDR6 (送Monster Hunter Wilds》遊戲兌換碼)
價錢：$3,050

1 x Super Flower COMBAT FG 850W 80Plus Gold Fully-Modular ATX3.1 PCI-E5.1 全日系 十年保
價錢：$699

1 x DarkFlash DK353 Mini Tempered Glass Micro-ATX 連4把無燈風扇
價錢：$249

1 x Thermalright AX120 Assassin X 120 Refined SE CPU Air Cooler
價錢：$159

1 x MACHENIKE 27" 2K 180Hz Fast IPS MZQ27F180
價錢：$1,099

1 x $80 砌機服務，首30天免費上門收機檢查，五年免費自攜保養。
價錢：$80

總計: $8,983
https://www.faroll.com/customize#NTA3MSw1MjgxLDczNjIsNzk2Miw4MDYxLDgzODEsODU5OSw4Njc4LDg5MDg

1 x AMD Ryzen™ 7 9800X3D 盒裝 法奧自保 (三年有壞一換一 / 無貨更換全數退款)
價錢：$4,099

1 x Gigabyte B650M AORUS ELITE AX AM5 DDR5 Micro-ATX
價錢：$1,499

1 x Patriot Viper Venom DDR5 2x32GB 64GB 6000MHz C30
價錢：$1,299

1 x WD Black™ SN850X 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4
價錢：$999

1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX™ 5070 Ti EAGLE OC SFF 16GB GDDR7 (可單買或砌機)
價錢：$8,099

1 x [3月優惠]FSP Hydro G Pro 850W 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.1 12V-2X6 (砌機減$100)
價錢：$949

1 x DarkFlash DK353 Mini Tempered Glass Micro-ATX 連4把無燈風扇
價錢：$249

1 x Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE PS120 SE
價錢：$349

1 x $80 砌機服務，首30天免費上門收機檢查，五年免費自攜保養。
價錢：$80

總計: $17,622
https://www.faroll.com/customize#NTkwNSw2MDY0LDY0NzQsODU0NSw4NTk5LDg2NzAsODgzNCw4ODcx

剩返嘅budget可以考慮下用嚟買其他機箱

13000 budget條list仲有咩可以改進？

1 x [3月優惠送RAM]AMD Ryzen 7 9700X Tray + ASUS TUF GAMING B650M-E WIFI + Patriot Viper Venom DDR5 2x16GB 6000MHz C30
價錢：$3,798

1 x Kingston KC3000 Series 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4
價錢：$929

1 x Gigabyte Radeon™ RX 9070 XT GAMING OC 16GB GDDR6 (缺貨)
價錢：$6,299

1 x Super Flower COMBAT FG 850W 80Plus Gold Fully-Modular ATX3.1 PCI-E5.1 全日系 十年保
價錢：$699

1 x Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact Black Light Tint Tempered Glass ATX
價錢：$940

1 x [要錢不要貨]Be Quiet! Dark Rock 5 CPU Cooler Last 2
價錢：$299

1 x $80 砌機服務，首30天免費上門收機檢查，五年免費自攜保養。
價錢：$80

總計: $13,044
https://www.faroll.com/customize#Mjc4Miw0MjkzLDUwNzIsODM4MSw4NjIxLDg5NjE

1 x [3月優惠]AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Tray + ASUS TUF GAMING B650M-E WIFI + Patriot Viper Venom DDR5 32GB 2x16GB 6000Mhz C30
價錢：$2,999

1 x WD Black™ SN850X 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4
價錢：$999

1 x Sapphire PULSE AMD Radeon™ RX 7600 8GB
價錢：$2,199

1 x [3月優惠]FSP 850-50AEC 850W 80Plus Gold ATX3.0 Gen5 Bulk Pack
價錢：$599

1 x Antec CX200M RGB ELITE Micro-ATX - Black
價錢：$399

1 x Thermalright AX120 Assassin X 120 Refined SE ARGB CPU Cooler
價錢：$179

1 x $80 砌機服務，首30天免費上門收機檢查，五年免費自攜保養。
價錢：$80

總計: $7,454
https://www.faroll.com/customize#NDk1MSw2NDc0LDc3MDYsODM2Nyw4NDcxLDg0NzM

睇下片玩下lol 呢個list ok嗎

顯示卡定係用4060好d

ASUS TUF GAMING B650M-E WIFI
MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI
新手想問下華碩底板同msi有咩唔同隨便揀左兩款差唔多價位

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQHkDEcgDPm34Mns3C93K6SJoBnua-x9O-y_6hv8sPs/edit?gid=454171143#gid=454171143

自己慢慢對比下

咁多位師兄師姐小弟自己執咗個list,想問下咁樣o唔ok?
如果ok，諗住等啱時機就砌，諗住自己玩下ai整圖，同埋少許時間都會用AE，PR，Blender個類，不過大部分情況下都係打機，睇片

有幾個想法唔知係咪好奇怪，希望都能夠解答下小弟:

- 地方問題，部電腦只能夠擺枱底下個窿，諗住由下同前入風，後上出風，唔知呢隻機箱做唔做到，咁樣係咪有限空間地最好既做法?

- 主機板上想多個1 Audio窿，想插喇叭同耳機，係咪只能夠揀atx底板

- 因為檯面都好細揀唔到大mon，上網睇過話如果1080p嘅mon主要係食cpu，依家我cpu直接頂係咪打機就冇問題?

- 見啲人話ai gen圖至少都要24gb作為入門,但係而家24gb以上既gpu實在太貴,定真係直接頂硬上?


1 x [現貨]AMD Ryzen™ 9 9950X3D 行貨 盒裝
價錢：$5,999

1 x ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI DDR5 AM5 ATX
價錢：$2,880

1 x Patriot Viper Venom DDR5 2x32GB 64GB 6000MHz C30
價錢：$1,299

1 x Samsung 990 Pro Series 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4
價錢：$1,249

1 x Palit GeForce RTX 5070 Ti GamingPro 16GB GDDR7 (缺貨) (只限砌機)
價錢：$6,999

1 x FSP VITA GM 1000W 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular ATX3.1 PCI-E 5.1 12V-2x6
價錢：$1,049

1 x Corsair 4000D AIRFLOW Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX Case — Black
價錢：$638

1 x Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 CPU Liquid Cooler - Black
價錢：$829

2 x [優惠]Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM Premium Quality Quiet 120mm Fan
價錢：$490

1 x $80 砌機服務，首30天免費上門收機檢查，五年免費自攜保養。
價錢：$80

總計: $21,512
https://www.faroll.com/customize#MzY5MCw1OTIyLDYxMCw2MTAsNjI3OSw3ODc5LDc5ODksODY3MCw4ODkxLDkwMDE

1 x AMD Ryzen™ 7 9700X AM5 Tray Xander代理
價錢：$2,070

1 x MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI AM5 DDR5 Micro-ATX
價錢：$1,099

1 x ADATA Lancer Blade DDR5 32GB 2x16GB 6000Mhz C30 - Black
價錢：$699

1 x WD Black™ SN850X 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4
價錢：$999

1 x PowerColor Reaper AMD Radeon™ RX 9070 XT 16GB GDDR6 (可單買或砌機)
價錢：$6,299

1 x [3月優惠]FSP Hydro G Pro 850W 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.1 12V-2X6 (砌機減$100)
價錢：$949

1 x Fractal Design Focus 2 Black Solid ATX
價錢：$550

1 x [現貨]Thermalright AX120 Assassin X 120 Refined SE Plus CPU Air Cooler
價錢：$189

1 x Arctic P12 PWM PST Pressure-Otimised 120mm Case Fan
價錢：$77

1 x $80 砌機服務，首30天免費上門收機檢查，五年免費自攜保養。
價錢：$80

總計: $13,011
https://www.faroll.com/customize#MjkwMCw1NzgwLDU5MDUsNjQ3NCw3MjkwLDgwNjEsODE4Niw4OTcxLDkwMjg

1 x [優惠]Jonsbo D31 Mesh Micro-ATX - Black + 三把Jonsbo Sl-120 ARGB PWM Reversed 反葉 + TCOMAS SJ-A080 240 CPU Liquid Cooler - Black (加$80可升級同款360水冷)
價錢：$859

1 x [3月打機三件套裝]AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Tray + ASUS TUF GAMING B650M-E WIFI + Patriot Viper Venom DDR5 2x16GB 32GB 6000Mhz C30
價錢：$4,499

1 x WD Black™ SN850X 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4
價錢：$999

1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX™ 5070 Ti WINDFORCE OC SFF 16GB GDDR7 (缺貨)
價錢：$7,599

1 x [3月優惠]FSP Hydro G Pro 850W 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.1 12V-2X6 (砌機減$100)
價錢：$949

1 x $80 砌機服務，首30天免費上門收機檢查，五年免費自攜保養。
價錢：$80

總計: $14,985
https://www.faroll.com/customize#NTkwNSw2NDc0LDgxOTcsODg3NCw5MDI5

記得加錢升級360水冷

1) 9800X3D轉法奧自保，$4,099嗰款
2) 你揀咗個ATX機箱，不如轉返塊ATX規格嘅主機板
3) RAM揀平啲嘅ADATA Lancer Blade RGB DDR5 32GB 2x16GB 6000Mhz C30 - Black都得，性能上唔會有啲咩分別，除非你對外觀有要求
4) Sapphire網站列出呢張卡對火牛嘅最低要求係750W，買隻850W嘅火牛就夠用
5) 呢個機箱嘅空間係足夠嘅

1 x AMD Ryzen™ 7 9800X3D 盒裝 法奧自保 (三年有壞一換一 / 無貨更換全數退款)
價錢：$4,099

1 x Gigabyte B850 Gaming X WiFi6E AM5 DDR5 ATX
價錢：$1,799

1 x ADATA Lancer Blade RGB DDR5 32GB 2x16GB 6000Mhz C30 - Black
價錢：$729

1 x Kingston KC3000 Series 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4
價錢：$940

1 x Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon™ RX 9070 XT 16GB GDDR6 (缺貨)
價錢：$6,999

1 x [3月優惠]FSP Hydro G Pro 850W 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.1 12V-2X6 (砌機減$100)
價錢：$949

1 x Lian Li LanCool 205 Mesh ARGB Type C Tempered Glass ATX - Black
價錢：$680

1 x TCOMAS SJ-A080 360 AMD CPU Liquid Cooler - Black
價錢：$499

1 x $80 砌機服務，首30天免費上門收機檢查，五年免費自攜保養。
價錢：$80

總計: $16,774
https://www.faroll.com/customize#NDE1MCw1MDcyLDU5MDUsODA3MCw4Mzk0LDg1NDUsODY5Miw4OTU2

9700X遊戲表現好過14600KF少少，14600KF多核心表現高過9700X少少

肯定嘅係，9700X耗電量會少過14600KF

1) KC3000 2TB最新售價係$940
2) RX 9070 XT轉有現貨兼同價嘅PowerColor Reaper AMD Radeon™ RX 9070 XT
3) 火牛可以轉隻更好嘅FSP Hydro G Pro 850W
4) CPU散熱器轉用更平嘅Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE Plus都夠壓9700X

轉4060啦，最緊要揀有雙風扇嘅卡

火牛轉埋DEEPCOOL PN650D 650W

有冇邊張推薦

ASUS Dual GeForce RTX™ 4060 V2 OC Edition 8GB GDDR6

機箱用dk353定我呢個係咪冇分別

最大分別就係外觀

首先
接近3k買張tuf x670e好唔抵
對audio有要求
要6 個audio port嘅
可以買msi x670e carbon
am5神板之一
只係貴少少
matx板都有6 port嘅
好似得好撚貴嘅x670e gene
第二
ai gen圖對顯卡要求其實冇你想像中咁高
學吓分tile 同upscaling
16gb卡都好夠用
夠你gen 4k圖啦
n卡要24gb就唔係加少少
7900xtx雖然價格差唔多+有24gb vram
不過唔係n卡唔啱新手用