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Zelensky in Rome: "The war in Ukraine can end in 2025". The president ready for a ceasefire along the current line

https://www.corriere.it/esteri/24_ottobre_09/zelensky-roma-meloni-guerra-da2c18e7-937e-41d5-ac18-91045b3b7xlk.shtml


Zelensky and Meloni's embrace in New York on the sidelines of the last UN assembly last September

The Ukrainian leader from Meloni and in European capitals. Objective: guarantees for entry into the Union. In exchange for some commitments he would be ready for a ceasefire along the current line.

For the second time in a month, Volodymyr Zelensky is coming to Italy and for the second time he will see Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni. The Ukrainian president accepted the invitation to Rome this evening, when it seemed that the meeting between NATO leaders would then be held in Ramstein on Saturday.
That summit was canceled because Hurricane Milton is keeping Joe Biden stuck in America, so the restricted meeting that the leaders of the United States, Great Britain, France and Germany would have held with their colleague in Kiev also skips.

But Zelensky still took advantage of his European trip, which began yesterday in Dubrovnik meeting the governments of Southeast Europe, for a tour of the main capitals: today he will be in Paris at the Elysée and then at Villa Doria Pamphilj with Meloni, tomorrow at the Vatican at Pope Francis and then in Berlin. He will surely also join the premier Keir Starmer in London.
Zelensky's so much activism reflects his belief that now is the time to look for a way out that does not leave Ukraine on its knees and exposed to new aggression from Russia in the future. «In October, November and December we have a real chance to push the situation towards peace and lasting stability — the Ukrainian president wrote yesterday on X —. The situation on the ground creates an opportunity for decisive action to end the war no later than 2025». These words of Zelensky, of course, must be interpreted. He first knows that September, as documented by the magazine Grand Continent, was the month of greatest territorial losses for Ukraine since the first half of 2022: at least 468 square kilometers conquered by Moscow at the cost of about a thousand Russian losses per day, between deaths and injuries.

The Ukrainian forces at this stage are overpowered in men and means on the entire Donbass front. The very choice of the Kursk raid, launched by Zelensky at the beginning of August, has paradoxical aspects: among the objectives there was also to demonstrate dynamism to the same external supporters of Ukraine, to raise their own morale on the outcome of the war and encourage them to help with more weapons and means. Now, however, a significant amount of elite Ukrainian units are, to some extent, trapped in Russian territory and unable to come to the rescue along the line of contact in Donbass. In Kiev, it is believed that leaving the Kursk would be even more expensive in terms of Ukrainian lives than staying there, also because it is feared that Moscow's army would chase the units redeploying outside Russia to the Sumy region, on the other side of the border.

Yet the plan that Zelensky proposes to the Europeans has its own logic, dictated by the pressures of war. On the military level, the Ukrainian leadership is waiting for the autumn rains to make it impossible for the Russians to advance until December: in three months in Kiev they expect to be able to have thousands more missiles to defend themselves.

But it is on the political level that Zelensky now wants to convince the Europeans. He first knows that he will never be able to officially give up the occupied territories (too unpopular to say, for any Ukrainian politician). However, he would be ready for a cease-fire along the current line — without recognizing a new official border — in exchange for some Western commitments. First, a guarantee of security by the United States, on the model of those extended by the Americans to Japan, South Korea and the Philippines.
From Rome, Paris and Berlin, instead, Zelensky would like reassurances about a rapid entry into the European Union, which gives Ukraine a growth horizon.

It will not be easy, because Vladimir Putin is not satisfied with the territories he has already torn away with the blood of a million people. The Kremlin dictator above all wants to destabilize Ukraine and control it politically. The budget of Moscow's defense apparatus in 2025 rises to about 130 billion dollars, from 108 this year. In 2024, moreover, Moscow will invoice 190 billion dollars from oil exports: more than before the war. Until the sanctions bite more, bending the Russian war machine, Putin has no reason to sit at the peace table.

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德國圖片報的報道

Gerüchte um Waffenstillstand
:
Selenskyj-Wende „wäre russischer Sieg“

Ukraine dementiert Bericht +++ Militär-Experte mit bitterer Bilanz

Rumors of a ceasefire

Zelensky's turn "would be a Russian victory"

Ukraine denies report +++ Military expert with bitter record

https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland-und-internationales/ukraine-geruechte-um-selenskyj-wende-waere-ein-russischer-sieg-6707afac1c37d93523670448


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky (46) is under pressure. Without weapons, he cannot achieve his goals
Photo: Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press via AP/dpa

Is there a surprising turn in the Ukraine war? As the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera reports, President Volodymyr Zelensky (46) is said to be ready for a ceasefire in the defensive war against Russia. Along the current front line.

In return, Zelensky is demanding "a security guarantee from the United States, following the example of those that the Americans have given to Japan, South Korea and the Philippines," according to the report. An adviser to the president denies this. "This is untrue," Dmytro Lytwyn told the Interfax-Ukraine agency. And it would indeed be a bitter defeat for Kiev.

Military expert Carlo Masala (56) makes it clear on BILD's request: If a ceasefire were to be made under the conditions that Selenskyj is said to have formulated, "that would be a Russian victory".


Carlo Masala, Professor of International Politics at the University of the Bundeswehr, blames the West for Ukraine's abandoning its goals
Photo: Markus Hertrich/ZDF

Ukrainians cannot equip brigades

It is clear that Ukraine would give up its original goal of liberating the entire Ukrainian territory before peace talks with Russia. Kremlin ruler Vladimir Putin (72) himself is also likely to celebrate such a ceasefire as a victory for the Russians.

According to Masala, it would be the insight "that his troops will not be able to decisively push the Russians back in Ukraine." Then the West would also have to ask itself: Have we done enough to support Kiev?

For weeks and months, the arms deliveries to the Ukrainian armed forces have been seeping, according to the military expert. "The Ukrainians have formed 14 new brigades, of which they could only equip four because they were not supplied with enough material."

Masala: "Ukraine is ran out of material"

According to Masala, there is a decisive insight behind the ceasefire, as it was now allegedly hinted at by Selenskyj. In the end, the Russian victory was due to the fact that the 'West', despite its economic power, was not able to sufficiently support Ukraine.
Even if Ukraine made mistakes on the battlefield, something else is decisive in the end: "You are ranout of material."

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