正式取代x86!!!!!!高通承諾大多數 Windows 遊戲將在 SdX Elite 上正常運行!!!!!!

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機界原種 2024-03-23 15:07:42


Windows 11 PCs with the Snapdragon X Elite processor are coming later this year. Besides solid battery life and snappy performance, these computers should offer a decent gaming experience. At GDC 2024, one of Qualcomm's engineers said that x86/x64 emulation should work very efficiently and most games should "just work" without extra optimizations.

Game developers who want to make their games available on next-generation ARM PCs can choose from several options. The best way is to optimize the game to run natively for the most efficient performance and energy consumption. The second option is to create a hybrid app with native Windows libraries and Qualcomm drivers while the rest of the game gets emulated. Finally, developers can leave everything as is and let the Snapdragon X Elite run their projects using x64 emulation.

Qualcomm promises "extremely efficient" emulation thanks to caching. "After the initial hit to translate a new block of code, the caching system is extremely efficient," said one of Qualcomm's slides at the GDC conference. The Adreno GPU should handle most games thanks to DirectX 11, 12, Vulkan, and OpenGL drivers. Mapping layers should also make it possible to run older DirectX 9 games.

Of course, there are some limitations. Anti-cheat systems that operate on the kernel level will not work unless ported natively, just like games that utilize AVX instructions. Qualcomm claims its engineers are testing all the top games on Steam, and most of them should work.

The Surface Pro 10 and Surface Laptop 6 (don't confuse them with the Surface Pro 10 for Business and the Surface Laptop 6 for Business) should be among the first Windows PCs with the Snapdragon Elite X chips. Although Microsoft is not going to position them as gaming devices, it will be interesting to see how the latest PC-focused chip from Qualcomm handles modern gaming both natively and using emulation.

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C.馬撚 2024-03-24 16:21:42
人唔笑狗都吠
高通同M$搞咗Windows ARM六年, 有邊部ARM windows laptop唔係變咗電子垃圾?
SEED8210 2024-03-24 17:10:33
承諾?
638422762 2024-03-24 17:12:53
Windows is a joke
黐撚咗線 2024-03-24 17:49:55
大多數即係冇
甜妹號 2024-03-24 17:52:39
人工智能搞咗幾十年都唔成功
今日已經係顛覆性

6年算D乜嘢?
C.馬撚 2024-03-24 17:57:40
用Windows ARM Laptop根本就玩鳩自己

兼容性已經係大問題
機身重量大細同普通Intel/amd laptop冇分別
大部分app都唔係native咁行, 一run x86 app更加食電
仲要價錢唔撚係平喎

你話三四千蚊有部ipad air咁嘅重量 Snapdragon X win11平板就話諗得過
C.馬撚 2024-03-24 18:01:28
你令我諗起Windows RT同Windows Phone
資深老棍 2024-03-24 18:20:06
香港人都知承諾係要嚟做乜!
機界原種 2024-03-24 21:20:39
x86做到嘅嘢,arm一樣做得到,而且會做得更好,依家只係差軟件轉換問題,解決咗嘅話,取代x86指日可待
工程仔. 2024-03-24 21:54:02
其實x86 vs arm係偽命題嚟
AMD Z1 tsmceme
Ryzen 78xxU
有晒跑分AMD performance per watt 對比Apple M系仲高

根本係啲ifan俾Apple洗晒腦
Apple M系好大程度上只係食咗tsmc製程優勢
AMD同樣用返tsmc同製程
係可以做到同level嘅performance per watt
工程仔. 2024-03-24 21:54:32
z1 Extreme
•加藤恵• 2024-03-24 22:00:48
AMD個大細核做得幾好,
機界原種 2024-03-24 22:10:07
arm都有超級電腦架
C.馬撚 2024-03-24 23:44:30
你上面話x86做到嘅嘢arm都做到
同樣道理arm做到嘅嘢x86都做到

咁windows x86用得好地地點解要轉?
慳電啲? 啲mobile cpu低效能咪慳電囉
要高效能咪又同x86一樣咁食電
搵唔到優點, 完全攞嚟搞
C.馬撚 2024-03-24 23:53:08
都係嗰句
三四千蚊有部ipad air咁嘅重量 Snapdragon X win11平板就話諗得過

windows arm laptop又唔係特別輕又唔係特別慳電
大部份app冇arm native版, 都唔使諗打機畫質, game都未必開到啦
都未撚同你計啲企業printer & usb accessories有冇driver, 用黎做文書機都唔撚掂
成皮嘢買部Arm laptop 當係chromebook咁用?

M$ 有心推ARM就全部surface用高通SoC吖笨
出乜撚嘢intel版呀
C.馬撚 2024-03-25 00:20:26
AMD 穩定性低? 20年前K7年代就係嘅
而家intel同amd穩定性上根本就冇乜分別


不過無論點, 啲企業it狗都唔會買AMD 做公司windows機
更加唔好講完全唔同架構嘅ARM

ARM入唔到企業市場基本上就冇可能取代X86
當連登仔on9 2024-03-25 00:25:18

靜啦
Windows phone 親手埋葬 iphone架
C.馬撚 2024-03-25 00:46:32
我嘅意思都係20年前wintel做到出曬面

但係近十零年amd@win定intel@win已經冇乜大分別
可能同近2代xbox都用amd有關係掛
在141尋求邂逅 2024-03-25 10:20:00
呢幾代大細核都唔見得Intel有幾好
窮巴 2024-03-26 12:05:14
https://youtu.be/OTgl6RaImjY?si=NTBtyDYszwzQ4n73

條友扲 手機玩pc game 都有30-60fps

好勁
如有鬼助 2024-03-26 12:26:52
Arm幾時爆升
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