Notebook討論區 及 外國網購Notebook推介 (113),新手請睇#1-2

Jacksjoke

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Jacksjoke 2023-04-11 22:40:36
「新機持續更新中,下表未齊」

呢到主要討論:
1)Notebook資訊
2)解答買notebook問題 (例如保養問題, specs)
3)香港/網購Notebook推薦
etc.

唔會阻止你純討論,但其他人未必Like同避免大家鬧交,所以呢到禁支那機,支寶/京東!


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1)
推薦型號:


!!每個型號嘅規格都會有唔同!!

!!價錢以HKD為參考,個別(eg ASUS)為外國!!


啲機未必十全十美,未必個個都啱下面只係嗰個價位做得比較好 / 抵玩 / 大路嘅機


Intel (13th U/P/H/HX系)

文書:

<$7000 : Apple MBA (M1)
<$10000 : Dell Inspiron 14/16 , Asus Vivobook Pro X 2023
>$10000 : Apple MBP,Asus Zenbook OLED 2023 , Dell Inspiron 14/16 Plus, Asus, Vivobook Pro X 2023



Gaming:

<$10000 :TBA
~$13000 :Asus Tuf Gaming F15/17 2023,Dell G15/16 2023 , Acer Nitro 16/17 2023
~$18000 :Acer Predator Helios 16/18 2023,Asus ROG M16/G16 2023, M, Asus ROG Flow X16 2023, Dell Alienware M16/18 2023
>$20000 :Asus ROG Strix G16/18 2023 ,MSI GP 2023, Acer Predator Helios 16/18 2023
~$好有米:Asus ROG Strix Scar 16/18 2023 ,MSI GE/GT 2023,Dell Alienware X14/16 2023




Creator:

>$12000 (休閑、中度):Asus Flow Z13 2023,Dell Inspiron 14/16 Plus , Asus Vivobook Pro X 2023, Asus Zenbook 2023
>$15000 (中、重度):Apple MBP14/16,Asus TUF Dash F15 2023 (TBA),Asus Flow Z13 (w eGPU) 2023,Asus ROG M16/G16 2023, Msi Creator Z14/16/17 2023




AMD(7000 U/H/HS/HX系)

文書:

<$7000 :Apple MBA (M1),Dell ins 14/16
<$10000 :Asus Vivobook Pro X OLED 2023 ,Asus Zenbook OLED 2023,Dell ins 14/16
>$10000 :Apple MBP,Asus Zenbook OLED 2023,Asus Vivobook Pro X 2023



Gaming:

<$10000 :TBA
~$13000 :TUF Gaming A15/A16/A17 2023,Dell G15/16 2023, Acer Nitro 16/17 2023
~$18000 :Asus ROG G14 2023,Asus ROG Strix G17 2023, Dell Alienware M16/18 2023
>$20000 :Asus ROG G14 2023,Asus ROG Strix Scar 17 2023
~$好有米:Zephyrus Duo 16 2023



Creator:

>$12000 (休閑、中度):Asus Flow X13 2023,Vivobook Pro X 2023 ,Asus Zenbook 2023, Dell ins 14/16
>$15000 (中、重度):Apple MBP,Asus Flow X13 2023 (w eGPU),Asus ROG G14 2023, Asus Tuf A15/16 2023



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2)
平價區(~$5000)
- 價錢反映質素

- <=$4000 Budget一係買iPad,一係唔好買


intel:
- None

R5 - 5000系
- Vostro 14 3435
- Vostro 15 3535


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3)
熱門伏機List

原因好難詳列,普遍:
散熱差/QC/造工差/Overpriced/廢mon等等




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4)

-麻煩問之前有啲Google/YouTube 有嘅資訊就搵咗先

-打低:用途、Budget、心水型號/牌子 etc.
比其他巴打知你需要乜,我哋先幫到你


打機:麻煩比埋Game名,e.g. LOL/R6/AC......,唔同Game嘅硬件需求可以好大分別!

唔該 / Thanks 都冇,唔會有人答你同幫你
Jacksjoke 2023-04-11 23:25:43
香港行貨購買指南及
網購香港保養提醒!



Acer:
-香港: 腦場
-Amazon: 冇保**

ASUS:
-香港: 腦場
-Amazon: Sold by amazon*,有1年香港保^
-Hidevolution: 個別型號有1年國際保,請於Hid官網睇個別型號Warranty一欄!請盡量喺官網買,唔好係Amazon買Sold by Hidevolution!

Dell:
-Dell HK: 成日有promotion,可以問CS拎優惠
Model & price: https://www.dell.com/zh-hk
-Dell US: 官網買有全球保,自己加錢轉Premier 國際保養Plan
-Amazon: 冇保

Gigabyte:
-香港: (香港代理問題,請閣下考慮係咪買香港某代理嘅技嘉notebook)
-Amazon: 只限Sold by amazon ,有1年香港保^(Global),條款Gigabyte 官網有

HP:
-香港: 腦場
-Amazon: 冇保**

MSI:
-香港: 腦場
Model & price: https://hkstore.msi.com
-Amazon: 冇保**


* 可靠銷售商:Amazon US,UK (Sold by amazon) / ASUS Official websites / Dell US

**冇保: 指香港不受保,但閣下可自行承擔風險寄回購買地作維修(唔同廠,唔同處理方法)

^(香港購買嘅行貨為兩年)


!!一切以維修中心/代理為準,以上只是綜合師兄經驗/查詢代理/產品官網!!

!!係Amazon買,記得揀Sold By Amazon!避免買Amazon其他舖!!



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Gaming 機dGPU直連?

直連簡單來講:
- Laptop mon 直連dGPU,冇經仼何嘢
- Performance 100% present 到
- But,食電好多 (可以Disable直連)

冇直連:
- 中間經iGPU
- Performance 會有loss,~10% or above
- 相比之下省電啲

咩機有直連?
- Mon 有G-sync /
- 有Mux switch /
- 有Advanced optimus

本身冇直連點算?



- 駁外置Mon 「強制」直連 (第二螢幕顯示)+ Nvidia Control center 睇status
- 用Notebook 上嘅DP / 多功能Type-C (with DP)
- 有啲機HDMI 都可以

唔明自己Google,冇位再寫

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外國火牛買到返黎唔啱插,點算好?

-配米奇頭嘅英式三腳插頭線,再駁返去跟機變壓器

-新款type-C一體式火牛:用轉插 / 配個夠W數支援PD充電嘅火牛
Jacksjoke 2023-04-11 23:26:59
以下係40系列laptop gpu platform 大約要幾多Budget

4050 : 8k~9k

4060 : 10k ~11k

4070 : 15k ~ 16k

4080 : 20k ~ 21k

4090 : 30k ~ 31k

價錢浮動 有需要再更新





今代Intel amd 命名規則複雜,新舊世代CPU共存
留意List 內架構


Intel :

HX : Gen13

H/P/U : Gen12 + New Intel 7nm Node

AMD:
7X45 Series : Zen4 + RDNA2 IGPU

7X40 Series : Zen4 + RDNA3 IGPU

7X35 Series : Zen3+ + RDNA2 IGPU

7X30 Series : Zen 3 + VEGA IGPU

7X20 Series : Zen2 + RDNA2 IGPU




Review:


AMD Ryzen 7000 HX

https://youtu.be/NHRLggDdFgo

Intel Gen 13 :

https://youtu.be/hh2XhIhW3Ck
慘色人生 2023-04-11 23:41:36
美馬list
Gaming :

(有貨)
ASUS TUF Gaming A15 (2023): 1200usd = 9500hkd
AMD 7735hs+ rtx4050 + 16:9 FHD 144hz mon
https://amzn.to/41dU1dR

(有貨)
ASUS TUF Gaming F17 (2023): 1250usd = 9900hkd
AMD 7735hs+ rtx4050 + 16:9 FHD 144hz mon
https://amzn.to/3mme2Am

(冇貨)
ASUS ROG Strix G16 (2023) : 1400usd = 11000hkd
i7-13650HX+ rtx4060 + 16:10 165hz FHD 500nits mon + 512SSD
https://amzn.to/3mckJVr

(有貨)
ASUS ROG Strix G17 (2023) :1800usd = 14200hkd
AMD 7945HX+ rtx4060 + 16:9 240hz 2k mon +1tb ssd
https://amzn.to/43bnoPR
7945hx cinebench :34463分

(有貨)
ROG Strix SCAR 17 (2023) :2900usd = 22800hkd
7945HX+ rtx4080 +2k (16:9) 240hz + 32GB DDR5 + 1TB ssd
https://amzn.to/3mfWQfJ
得8部 check左G733PZ-XS96 同官網個code一樣

(冇貨)
ASUS ROG Strix Scar 16 (2023) :2900usd = 22800hkd
i9-13980HX +rtx4080+32GB DDR5+ 1TB ssd +mini Led 16:10 240hz
https://amzn.to/3mashIe
laptop rtx4080: 3d mark timespy 18000分 = desktop 3080ti

(有貨)
ASUS ROG Zephyrus Duo 16 : 3499usd/ 3999usd = 27500/31500hkd
AMD 7945HX + rtx4080/4090+mini Led 16:10 240hz+32 gb ram + 1tb ssd
https://amzn.to/3ZKh92r

(冇貨)
ASUS ROG Strix Scar 16 (2023) : 3700usd = 29100
i9-13980HX +rtx4090+32GB DDR5+ 2TB ssd +mini Led 16:10 240hz
https://amzn.to/40L3ObH
laptop 4090 = desktop 3090ti

(冇貨)
ASUS ROG Strix Scar 18(2023): 3900usd = 30700
i9-13980HX +rtx4090+32GB DDR5+ 2TB ssd + 2k 16:10 240hz (not mini led)
https://amzn.to/410fff6

(有貨)
ASUS ROG Strix Scar 17 (2023):3500usd = 27500hkd
AMD 7945HX + rtx4090+ 2k 16:9 240hz+32 gb ram + 1tb ssd
https://amzn.to/3mjWULp


文書 + 打到機 :
(有貨)
ASUS ROG Flow Z13: 1750usd = 13800hkd
i9-13900H+ rtx4050 +16:10 QHD 165Hz+ 16gb ram +1tb ssd
https://amzn.to/3zM7wpB 粒4050max tdp 65 watt

(有貨)
ASUS ROG Flow Z13-ACRNM RMT02: 2500usd = 19700hkd
i9-13900H+ rtx4070 +16:10 QHD 165Hz+ 32gb ram +1tb ssd
https://amzn.to/3zM7wpB 粒4070max tdp 65 watt

(冇貨)
ASUS Zenbook Pro 14 OLED :1800usd = 14200hkd
i9-13900H+ rtx4060 + 120hz OLED 16:10 Touch Display
(2880 x 1800)+16gb ram 1TB SSD
https://amzn.to/3nPgG1T

(冇貨)
ASUS VivoBook Pro 16 OLED: 1500usd = 11800 hkd
i9-13900H + rtx4060+1920 x 1200 16:10 mon +16gb ram +512ssd
https://amzn.to/3MiAp4f 個mon 好似得60hz 垃圾mon黎

(有貨)
ASUS Vivobook Pro 14 OLED(2022): 1200usd = 9500 hkd
AMD 6800H+rtx3050+2.8K 16:10 90hz OLED mon+ 1tb ssd+16gb ram
https://amzn.to/3ZUtXDt

(有貨)
ASUS Vivobook Pro 15 OLED(2022): 1270usd = 10000 hkd
AMD 6800H+rtx3050ti+2.8K 16:9 120hz OLED mon+ 1tb ssd+16gb ram
https://amzn.to/40Wd7W6

(有貨)
ASUS Zenbook 14 Flip OLED(2022): 1250usd = 9900 hkd
AMD 6800H+2.8K 90hz 16:10 OLED Touch mon+ 1tb ssd+16gb ram
https://amzn.to/40U4H1F 粒igpu好勁+9粒鍾文書

唔打機+文書:
(冇貨)
ASUS Zenbook 14 Flip OLED : 1000usd = 7800hkd
i5-1340P+16GB RAM+512GB SSD+2880 x 1800 (16:10) touch screen
https://amzn.to/43eJFwq 個mon 90hz

(冇貨)
ASUS Zenbook 14 : 1100usd = 8700 hkd
i7-1360P+16GB RAM+ 1TB SSD + 2560X1600 16:10mon
https://amzn.to/3nYPrCb
慘色人生 2023-04-11 23:41:47
英馬list:(keyboard layout 唔同) 自己計番扣20%稅

ASUS TUF A15 FA507NV 15.6” Full HD 144Hz Gaming Laptop (AMD Ryzen R7-7735HS, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, Windows 11, 90Whrs Battery) 1179UKD

https://amzn.eu/d/1JmriXJ

ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 GA402NV 14.0” WQXGA 165Hz 500nits Gaming Laptop (AMD Ryzen R7-7735HS, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, Windows 11) Includes ROG Nebula HDR Display 1900UKD

https://amzn.eu/d/jgQ09vY

ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 GA402XZ 14.0" QHD+ 165Hz Gaming Laptop (AMD Ryzen 9-7940HS, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Windows 11) Includes ROG Nebula HDR Display 3100UKD

https://amzn.eu/d/azn9h9j

ASUS ROG Zephyrus Duo 16 GX650PY 16.0" QHD+ 240Hz 1100nits Dual-screen Gaming Laptop (AMD Ryzen 9-7945HX, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090, 64GB RAM, 2TB SSD, Windows 11) Includes ROG Nebula HDR Display 4800UKD

https://amzn.eu/d/5JKgUrz

ASUS ROG Flow X16 GV601VI 16.0" WQXGA 240Hz 1100nits Touchscreen Gaming Laptop (Intel i9-13900H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Windows 11, 90Whr Battery) Includes ROG Nebula HDR Display 2699UKD

https://amzn.eu/d/azSjR6a

ASUS ROG Flow Z13 GZ301VU 13.4” WQXGA 165Hz 500nits Touchscreen Gaming Laptop (Intel i9-13900H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Windows 11) Includes ROG Nebula HDR Display 2000UKD

https://amzn.eu/d/cOWp6Ec

ASUS ROG Strix G16 G614JV 16.0” WUXGA 165Hz Gaming Laptop (Intel i7-13650H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Windows 11, 90Whrs Battery) 1700UKD

https://amzn.eu/d/7wjCjub

ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 16 G634JZ 16.0” WQXGA 240Hz 1100nits Gaming Laptop (Intel i9-13980HX, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Windows 11) Includes ROG HDR Nebula Display 3400UKD

https://amzn.eu/d/39575KP
暴乳局部 2023-04-12 00:13:53
有冇巴打放2手,想買部6-7千拎黎畫圖,唔想貼咁多錢番工,要有顯卡
閱驚錢梗章 2023-04-12 00:16:24
Asus 咁多條line, 應該點排

ROG Flow
ROG Zephyrus
ROG Strix Scar
ROG Strix
TUF Gaming
TUF Dash
Jacksjoke 2023-04-12 00:28:23
Rog Flow & Zephyrus 2條單獨產品線來

Gaming : Rog Strix Scar > Rog Strix G > Tuf Gaming

Tuf dash 條線應該冇左了
閱驚錢梗章 2023-04-12 00:33:34
咁target 前段就ok 啦 ,睇到頭都大config 都好似差唔多,想造工好dd
肥林林 2023-04-12 00:34:25

收到了
孤單的乳頭 2023-04-12 00:41:22
買左邊部?
肥林林 2023-04-12 00:48:43

同呢部一樣
Jacksjoke 2023-04-12 00:53:01
輕身 簿機通常係 Flow & Zephyrus
慘色人生 2023-04-12 01:20:15
美馬?
西門町小伯母 2023-04-12 07:07:34
留名
暴乳局部 2023-04-12 08:33:52
肥林林 2023-04-12 08:35:47
不是啊
redkun 2023-04-12 09:09:26
如果我主要係用geforce now黎打機
其實係咪唔洗買gaming notebook 都得
星雲天空 2023-04-12 09:40:14
小人物一名 2023-04-12 09:52:09
Amazon買? 平香港幾多錢?
肥林林 2023-04-12 09:54:56
不是
平6-7千
柯尿一滴滴 2023-04-12 10:10:35
想問dell ins 14同ins 16有咩分別
慘色人生 2023-04-12 10:26:45
size 同硬件
柯尿一滴滴 2023-04-12 10:31:46
Acer Nitro 5 AN515-58-72A8 Gaming Laptop | Intel®️ Core™️ i7 / 15.6" FHD 165Hz / 16GB / 1TB SSD / RTX 3050

夠唔夠打apex,同埋呢款laptop推唔推薦
Jacksjoke 2023-04-12 10:33:52
Budget?
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